Dcat

He is a M-A-S-T-E-R-F-U-L liar.

The guy is simply un-matched. Without so much as a nervous flinch or an uncomfortable gesture, he'll stand up there and deliver a complete fabrication on just about any issue so riddled with lies, half truths, and omissions, it would make even Bagdad Bob (ex Iraqi Minister of Information) blush. He's certainly in a class of his own. From Pathological liar George W. Bush, to compulsive liar Barack Obama, the establishment has really outdone itself this time.

dav3

Can you please provide a video example for those of us that don't watch tv or follow politics?

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cambaby

Ive always said that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is, the Democrats will lie straight to your face, the Republicans will lie behind your back. In the end the US political system needs a serious enema. Term limits in Congress now!

Dcat

Axeman

Term limits would help, but the real issue is campaign financing. Unless it is changed so each candidate gets a certain dollar value for their election run from the government, nothing will ever improve in politics.

Make it illegal to take contributions from anyone private or public other than the pre-determined federal dollars, and so much corruption does out the door. You will still have some elected that will do back door deals to setup their private lives when they leave public service, but a great deal of the nonsense will go away.

However to get that to happen you need congress to do it, and well you guessed it, won't ever happen.

Dcat

Well, I dunno, which would you prefer? Volume 1, 2, or 3?

onwebcam

Funny but.. Obama has known them for at least 5 years.. Another lie.

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cambaby

Something like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Elections

fatfoo

You gotta hand it to Obama. It's hard to tell the truth. I mean nobody can do the job better than him.

Most of the time is not truth - but trying to make the best prediction about things.

For example, "Economy is growing" or "Unemployment is rising" or "We can win the war"

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Axeman

Right but a stricter form of this which is mandatory for all reps at the state and federal levels. ie, no opt out available. You run for office, you take the federal funds and that's all you have to work with on your election bid.

Dcat

Yup, or was at least pictured with them.

BlackCrayon

And you just happen to know all of the truths so you can point out his lies every time.

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TheDoc

A Canadian is posting this shit? Hahaha...

The big bad Obama... oh man, you guys are trying to hard to reach for lies, like the man is going to be correct 100% of the time or that he always has to tell the truth. And the videos... haha..

After the black man becomes president... after the White Man of Lies started a false war, murder a shit load of people for a resource, who knows how big the lie really is... plus we know Bush ripped away our freedoms like no other President in history and doubled our debt for his gain.

You're a little late on your bitching, but your true colors are shining through.....

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HerPimp

George Clooney, Ben Aflek, Matt Damon, Jennifer Garner, Ashton Kutcher, Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks left you with this shit...

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pornguy

Why is it sooooo hard for people to under stand. Politician=Liar

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Les Grossman

It was hip to get behind Obama. What I was afraid would happen, did happen. People got caught up in the hype of Obama, and voted the wrong man into office. I foolishly voted for him too.

He will go down as the worst president in US history, even more so than Bush. This half breed is just getting started at tearing the US into tiny little bits. Imagine the destruction after his 4 years is up.

One thing I can say, and that is, they will NEVER let another black man into that office again. The first one they let it fucked everything up beyond repair. Maybe that was the plan to begin with.

Everyone will be BEGGING for change when this monkey is done. The irony is, they will be given another puppet.

I am no longer voting. Obama was the last vote I will ever give.

Fucking negros. I knew better. We all did.

SmokenCess

lol no! your problem is deeper than negros man. I can tell by your post that your just angry at the world. Your life is in shambles and the internet is your outlet. Someone buy this man a drink

Klen

See this to get real picture:
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Les Grossman

Hardly. I've just been around the block a few times and am a realist. I found a better (tax free - and better care) life in Hong Kong, and though I fought for the great United States and watched my fellow brothers die for it, I also fought for my right, and yours, not to live there. So I choose not to.

I'm not angry at the world, I'm only serving you the truth, even if you don't want to hear it. I made my first million in the business before you were probably even out of high school. I've been in the Peace Corp, I am a Marine, I've killed, I've saved lives, I've traveled the entire world, been married three times, had a few kids, am a proud grandpa, and I retired. The problem is, being retired isn't all it's cracked up to be, so I started poking by nose back into the business that gave me wealth. Unfortunately, it is now mostly filled with a bunch of pansie ass, keyboard warriors who don't know shit from shinola, and the industry I knew best (offline media) is all but dead, so here I am, in kindergarten with a bunch of pussies who know nothing about respect, sacrifice, true business ethics or even how to make real money. I may venture a little further in this game or I may just say fuck it and stay retired. I have a job offer in Thailand to edit and do some post production work, but that place is such a shit hole, I may pass. Undecided yet. The monkeys in that area of the world are among the dumbest creatures I've ever encountered.

Regarding negros, yea I hate n1ggers. Who doesn't? N1ggers of any color. Lil Wayne is a n1gger. Obama is turning out to be a lying, cheating n1gger, which by definition makes him no different than the rest of the n1ggers. Bush was a n1gger. Money and social status does not make you exempt from being one. I hate pussies, pansie asses and keyboard warriors too. I'm sure you fall into one of those categories, just not sure which one yet.

Bitter? Only at the governments who send boys to die over greed and power.

A life in shambles? Hardly kid. You can't imagine the life I've had and currently live. If I wanted an outlet to vent, I'd have no problems getting a job with one of the top PCIs who'd let me kill just for the sake of killing. So no, I don't need the internet to vent. I could kill and get paid for it, if I wanted to. How about you?

POed-poster

He's black and he's the president. Get over it already. Sheesh!

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POed-poster

Let's just cut to the chase. This is what REALLY bothers you about Obama, isn't it? I happen to think he is doing a good job, but then again I am not a racist like you apparently are.

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Les Grossman

I voted for Obama. I thought, like most Americans thought, he was bringing change. We were all wrong.

What I said was, it is easy to pin this on the black man. It was perfect timing for a fall guy, a black one. Bush completely screwed things up, so there was no harm putting a black man or a woman in office, because all the blame would go to them. The plan was perfect.

You can count on a black man not being elected again for a very, very long time, unless Obama starts shitting miracles, which he may, though I doubt it. I think he is in way over his head.

Les Grossman

He may be black (half breed), and he may have the title "president" but he's no leader.

slapass

He will shit miracles. if he did nothing at all the eceonomy would improve from the shambles he walked into. these things cycle. So in 4 years he will look like a hero. McCain would have gotten the same thing.

I am clearly not paying enough attention. But i thought the healthcare bill was the change he campaigned on?

POed-poster

I think I hear the dryer going off at your house. Your white robes and white hood are clean.

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BFT3K

I would vote for Obama again tomorrow.

Washington is as corrupt as it gets, so no matter what a decent person would like to do, every silly little thing becomes a huge uphill battle.

Get a little health care reform today, and then try for some more in 4 years.

No one becomes president, snaps his fingers, and changes the world overnight.

Bush used 911 to push his psychotic agenda. Without 911 his pathetic administration would not have had nearly as much power as it had - and as they say... absolute power corrupts absolutely!

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BlackCrayon

For someone who claims to hate keyboard warriors so much, you sure come off as one a lot.

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GatorB

You're Canadian so this is NONE of yourn concern nor do we give a shit about your opinion since it does not matter one bit.

Les Grossman

Without a doubt, ANYONE would be eating shit right now. The difference is, this party is spending out of control. He should have come in and stopped the BS in its tracks. Instead, he's making his buddies rich.



The difference between you and me is, I am a real warrior. That means real life, not online. That means I've killed people while looking them dead in the eye, while you play warrior in the safety of your parents basement while looking into a monitor, and can do so because real warriors like myself and other soldiers here, make it so. You are a keyboard warrior. I am a real warrior. Lets not confuse the two. Just because you've played some games that allow you to shoot your enemy, it does not make you a warrior. After you've spent some time in real combat situations and taken a few lives, then you can call yourself a real warrior.

Les Grossman

Considering the USA controls the western world, I believe Canadians have the right to be pissed at him. All it would take is a few strokes of his pen to make Canada feel a little pain.

BlackCrayon

I do not call myself any kind of warrior. You talk a lot of shit but you think its ok because you killed some people? Much respect if you you really were in the armed forces but just because someone doesn't serve (uh, hello most people don't...) doesn't make them any less worthy of respect than someone who has. Vietnam was a pointless war btw. I wouldn't be bragging that I was there.

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pornask

Obafag is a fag who can't say worth shit without his teleprompter. He's just a stuttering idiot incapable of any coherent sentence.

Les Grossman

No, you called me a keyboard warrior. I'm stating to you, that I am a real warrior. And don't put words in my mouth and say I don't respect those who did not serve because I risked my life for those people and watched my buddies die for those people.

You don't know shit about Vietnam or any other war, so I'd just keep your mouth shut on that issue. It was this kind of attitude that we got when we returned home, I don't need to hear it again from some misinformed kid hiding behind his keyboard. All war is pointless, but for someone who was never there, tell someone who was, that it is pointless, is insulting.

Les Grossman

I'd like to see how well he would have done without those teleprompters. I gotta give him credit for using technology to his advantage though. That was a brilliant move. From his teleprompters to his online campaign and text messages. Smart. He had a smart team of people behind him.

Dcat

Your statement comes from a place of such ignorance, I can hardly make myself respond to it.

It IS my concern! - It's everyone's concern!

Are you so detached from your sensibility that you can't comprehend that WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, WILL ULTIMATELY AND EVENTUALLY HAPPEN TO YOU!?!?

punkpred

Eat shit douchbag!

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BlackCrayon

I'm not a kid hiding behind a keyboard. I'm just a guy. I might not always be right and I do take the vietnam statement back. I had relatives who fought there as well. They were never the same afterwards though. I hate war and the needless death of hundreds of thousands all to stop the commies from spreading.

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Les Grossman

Thank you.

I'll tell you something else, we will lose Iraq and Afghanistan, just how we lost Vietnam. We'll also lose Iran when we go to war with them. There is one simple reason why, and that is, you can not defeat someone who is highly motived to defend their own land. Yes, you may temporary beat them, but not long term. For some reason, we are unable to learn this lesson. Or maybe we have and we go for other reasons, like to rebuild them. Lots of money there.

Les Grossman

And other reasons like oil and other natural resources. Forgot to add that, as its a big one. Some have even said we went to Vietnam over titanium. I didn't personally see that, but I've been told US companies have since stripped damn near every piece of titanium out of that country.

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LOL Agreed!

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les grossman > gfy

you sir are my new favorite poster

finally someone with substance who can tell it like it is!

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LiveDose

They all lie. They all suck. Fuck them all.

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tiger

Politicians that aren't full of shit 90% of the time are as rare as unicorns.

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Sausage

Comeon guys, seriously did you think you were getting something different? "Change" is just a slogan the sheeple could use to rally behind .. there was little change.

The media world wide just gushed for the guy, it was so clear that he was going to be elected no matter what. The media decides who is elected, not you. In most cases your vote is merely the product of careful grooming by the media, and its the same in many countries not just the US.

Les Grossman

You are correct. However, we are so desperate for change, we fell for it. We wanted to believe in him, believe in change, believe that someone was actually going to work for us again, and listen to what we have to say.

That will teach us.

I will never vote again.

Les Grossman

Freakin' keyboard.

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Sausage

I hear ya. Though McCain wasn't an option either, so its a no win.

I hope people like you do vote again, because you will probably make a much more targeted decision next time based on a more realistic outlook. I think America and i dare say the world was under a spell. Going through that experience and seeing it for what it is can only make you into a better voter next time I hear serious talk about a 3rd party, is that just whispers or could it seriously happen?