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SleazyDream 12-17-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16657671)
i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

my god - i hope no one finds that link

i'll be sunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The King of Pop 12-17-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16657671)
i just watched one of the videos, i didnt even realize that this was a porn site (due to the bad design). this concept is even worse than i thought. why would someone spend $30 a month when they could easily just bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Boo...1089499&sr=8-1

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 16657647)
This will go down in GFY history as a Epic fail

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9826/sleadzyd.gif

RTP 12-17-2009 03:45 PM

concept is ok man...if it was custom shot or filmed by you or someone from that perspective it would be a whole different story. design wise it is hurting.

shap gave the best advice, really.

:2 cents:

Arnox 12-17-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657683)
the sites not perfect - it will be tweaked as time goes on. I'm on a budget now is all...


but look at the emotion in this thread- good and bad.

emotion sells above ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ELSE - whether it's good or bad emotion. it trumps all in the sales world. spark emotion and out comes the wallet.

i'm happier than shit right now!!!!!!!!!!

I'm hoping I can speak for many in saying that we hope you heed the advice. You seem like a nice guy and it'd be a shame for those few who construct their criticism so negatively to get the better of you.

Choker 12-17-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657675)
i think gay sites will work really good for you - you seem to be a pro at sucking cock

They are doing great thanks for asking. Good luck with everything.

greg80 12-17-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief (Post 16654383)
So basically you made a paid dating advice website? How revolutionary lol. You shall have as much success a penis enlargement text guide in this day and age.

:2 cents:

wish you all best though

beemk 12-17-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657686)
my god - i hope no one finds that link

i'll be sunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

greg80 12-17-2009 03:58 PM

checking the site out, I still don't get what you are actually selling. Also is this a porn site or advice site or what is it? I don't even see why to join and I checked out quite a few pages.

The King of Pop 12-17-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 16657701)
They are doing great thanks for asking. Good luck with everything.

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16657729)
my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9826/sleadzyd.gif

Choker 12-17-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16657729)
my point is theres a big demand for the knowledge of body language, and theres also a big demand for people who want to jerk off to a girl getting fucked. but i dont think anyone is going to want to learn about body language when they're jerking off. dont take my word for it, check your stats 3 months from now and see how big of a failure you are, i predict this one to be as bad as your club.

He won't have any stats in three months. If the members area reflects the tour I would guess it has maybe 20 movies inside and 10 pages of text. If a surfer is stupid enough to signup and pay, he won't be stupid enough to see that he got ripped and charge back. The charge back ratio on a site like this? think about it.

Agent 488 12-17-2009 04:04 PM

he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 16657745)
He won't have any stats in three months. If the members area reflects the tour I would guess it has maybe 20 movies inside and 10 pages of text. If a surfer is stupid enough to signup and pay, he won't be stupid enough to see that he got ripped and charge back. The charge back ratio on a site like this? think about it.

actually only 17 - but i'm adding one or two every day so in 3 months there will be more than 100......

beemk 12-17-2009 04:07 PM

this is the best advice someone could give sleazy:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...oto/EmoCut.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-17-2009 04:09 PM

http://www.scoutingresources.org.uk/...rescue_001.jpg

Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post... :1orglaugh

Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content.

How is that site doing for you?

Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you? :winkwink:

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candyflip 12-17-2009 04:10 PM

I love how people try to help and offer some real constructive criticism but this thick headed moron can't put his ego in check for 2 minutes to even see that those he's calling haters and trolls are the only ones offering good feedback.

Save your breath and just let him wallow in his own shit. If you think it's going to fail, just sit back let it fail and revel in that when it happens. Unless you are going to lick his ass or give him some free content or traffic to use because he hasn't much more than a pot to piss in now...just step back and enjoy the show.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16657765)
http://www.scoutingresources.org.uk/...rescue_001.jpg

Well, at least this thread is pretty good filler drama/entertainment while waiting for Dirty D to post... :1orglaugh

Personally, I think your Easy Dater website looks better aesthetically, even though it basically has similar kind of content.

How is that site doing for you?

Finally, just curious, you don't have a cruise planned in the next few days, do you? :winkwink:

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why on earth are people comparing me to DirtyD?

that I really dont' get?


i'm going to be implementing many of the suggestions in this thread. I'd be the idiot if i took all of them. there are some good ones, bad ones, REALLY bad ones from some morons, and lots of unrelated crap.....

to be expected....

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16657757)
he did get some good advice in this thread. like from bv. if he takes that into consideration he will do ok.

BV had some great advise that i am implementing - playing with a new new join page options now actually....

Choker 12-17-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657758)
actually only 17 - but i'm adding one or two every day so in 3 months there will be more than 100......

CCbill approved a paysite with only 17 movies in it? holy shit

dyna mo 12-17-2009 04:22 PM

sleazy, when did this idea come to you?

Shap 12-17-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657539)
you're a bright guy but saying you know if a site will convert or not on tubes definitively really isn't smart. Honestly you don't' know. I don't know either. I thought you were brighter than that.

this might piss you off but i'll be honest here.
i thought your stuff would convert with my tgp, you've been in it forever and know your stuff. not trying to shit on you but it's in the bottem 10% of the stuff I usually use for conversions, honestly the conversions are bad. really bad. yet you have some of the best looking galleries and women on the net. without a doubt, your content is amazing and your designs are exactly what everyone shitting on me here says I need to be doing.

I'll still use it cause the girls are amazing and it's good clean content. Actually probably the best looking galleries I've scene in ages and seriously some of the best on the net. You're an honest guy and the sites do not rip people off. I believe good content brings people back to my site. I think a lot of your affiliates are using you for the same reason as that too - as well I'm sure there are places where you're the best sponsor as well that someone uses. I don't always post the sites that make the most money - I like good stuff, even if it isn't hugely profitable and one of the lowest paying ones.

I'll will be updating content, but I cannot afford new content at this moment. I'm running with what i got. I lost everything and am starting over. I'm pretty proud of what I scrapped together here with no cash. I have to start somewhere. The site is specifically designed to grow.

thank you for the comments and I'm sorry if I burst a bubble or anything....you DO have great stuff and i appreciate the comments

I don't take that negatively in any way. I'm very well aware of where we fall short. I know what sources of traffic we fail to convert well and where we need to improve. If I had my way it would all be doing much better right now. Unfortunately nothing ever moves at the speed I wish it did. That said as I'm sure you know with every project it is a work in progress.

I'm not god and I don't know all. But if I had to put $10 on whether this site would sell well on tubes I'd have to say it wouldn't. I'm basing that on the tube traffic we own, the tube traffic we buy, and the tube traffic we research. I think this site could have had some success in the TGP and gallery maker affiliate days. Those days are long gone. Compared to what is being pushed today and pushed hard this doesn't match up to it. I'm not saying my sites do. My sites aren't the subject of the thread. I'm just providing my two cents based on what I've learned.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 16656757)
Most people are lucky to get 5 "suggestions" from GFY. You have 4 pages. You don't like some of them, so you call them broke trolls.

I thought your current financial/life situation humbled you a bit. Guess not.

Good luck.

good point

thanks :thumbsup

BradM 12-17-2009 04:26 PM

Honestly I don't think Scott knows what his site is or he would have been able to answer it for us. I think he is even confused by it.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16657796)
I don't take that negatively in any way. I'm very well aware of where we fall short. I know what sources of traffic we fail to convert well and where we need to improve. If I had my way it would all be doing much better right now. Unfortunately nothing ever moves at the speed I wish it did. That said as I'm sure you know with every project it is a work in progress.

I'm not god and I don't know all. But if I had to put $10 on whether this site would sell well on tubes I'd have to say it wouldn't. I'm basing that on the tube traffic we own, the tube traffic we buy, and the tube traffic we research. I think this site could have had some success in the TGP and gallery maker affiliate days. Those days are long gone. Compared to what is being pushed today and pushed hard this doesn't match up to it. I'm not saying my sites do. My sites aren't the subject of the thread. I'm just providing my two cents based on what I've learned.



you might be right - but i'm gona testing and tweeking it to see what happens....

i've always been amazed at what works and what doesn't.... it's always been weird.

Every time I think i know what will sell and what won't i seem to be proven different by testing...

that was my point though... only testing will tell.....esp with something new.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16657808)
Honestly I don't think Scott knows what his site is or he would have been able to answer it for us. I think he is even confused by it.

what is your site? herbal? do you sell weed? I don't get it.......

Shap 12-17-2009 04:34 PM

Btw Scott someone earlier in the thread mentioned that there is a community based around these signals. That is who you are going after. If you haven't already I'd spend a lot of time in that community and see what they are saying, what they look for and getting their feedback. You have to hit that market just perfect and milk the hell out of them. That is where your opportunity lies. If you look at the marketing that is happening on tube sites it's very aggressive by some very talented marketers. I understand you are trying to launch the site on a showstring budget and that's why I think you really have to fine tune it and cater to the market as well as you possibly can and tapping into that community's wealth of information and desires is going to be the key.

I always look at things as to how they might do today, next year and 2 years from now. The problem with the site is it doesn't look like a site that is launching in 2010. That hurts. This industry has done a lot of damage and burned a lot of innocent surfers. Seeing a site that looks like it's from that time period may bring up those trust issues. I may be wrong. That's just how I see it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-17-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657780)
why on earth are people comparing me to DirtyD?

that I really dont' get?

I wasn't comparing you to Dirty D, I said that this thread is entertaining while people are waiting for him to post in the thread about him.

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u...s-good_luc.jpg

At least you are responding to people... :)

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Shap 12-17-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657816)
you might be right - but i'm gona testing and tweeking it to see what happens....

i've always been amazed at what works and what doesn't.... it's always been weird.

Every time I think i know what will sell and what won't i seem to be proven different by testing...

that was my point though... only testing will tell.....esp with something new.

I agree 1000000000000%. You never know what will work. That's why it's always smart to focus and build something you really like because there is always someone else that can identify with you. If you build something you think someone else might like it doesn't always end pretty. I believe a large portion of the money you made in the industry was because you catered to people you understood and people that were similar in mindset to you. And you killed with it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-17-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657818)
what is your site? herbal? do you sell weed? I don't get it.......

One of BradM's sites sells Performance Wipes:

http://www.roaringtiger.com/images/p...arge/wipes.jpg

Oh, and he sells Horny Goat Weed too...seriously, he does:

http://www.roaringtiger.com/images/p.../epimedium.jpg

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DVTimes 12-17-2009 04:40 PM

i think it will sell.

but make some vids funny.

i think if its fun it will sell.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16657843)
I agree 1000000000000%. You never know what will work. That's why it's always smart to focus and build something you really like because there is always someone else that can identify with you. If you build something you think someone else might like it doesn't always end pretty. I believe a large portion of the money you made in the industry was because you catered to people you understood and people that were similar in mindset to you. And you killed with it.

that's exactly where I'm going with this..... :thumbsup

BradM 12-17-2009 04:41 PM

Correct, I sell weed.

Shap 12-17-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657852)
that's exactly where I'm going with this..... :thumbsup

Then you know what. It will do well. You don't need the gfy hype. All you need to do is build it up internally. Get it rocking. Reinvest as much as you can and it will turn into a beast. Once you have the numbers then bring the hype to gfy.

Shap 12-17-2009 04:50 PM

btw my bad I just read the original post again where you mention you are hoping people will hop on board and promote it and help you launch it. The bad news is this isn't 2005. The affiliate model is dead. If you rely on affiliates to make this a success it's going to be a rough and possibly short ride.

That may be why my first post came across the wrong way. I was looking at this project as a 2010 launch project does it have what it takes to succeed in the market today. I don't know what your $$$ target is either which makes it tough.

My comments are regarding a site that is looking to MAKE money.

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16657867)
Then you know what. It will do well. You don't need the gfy hype. All you need to do is build it up internally. Get it rocking. Reinvest as much as you can and it will turn into a beast. Once you have the numbers then bring the hype to gfy.

but but but i LIKE poking people...................

SleazyDream 12-17-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16657871)
btw my bad I just read the original post again where you mention you are hoping people will hop on board and promote it and help you launch it. The bad news is this isn't 2005. The affiliate model is dead. If you rely on affiliates to make this a success it's going to be a rough and possibly short ride.

That may be why my first post came across the wrong way. I was looking at this project as a 2010 launch project does it have what it takes to succeed in the market today. I don't know what your $$$ target is either which makes it tough.

My comments are regarding a site that is looking to MAKE money.


i don't believe the affiliate model is dead. many sites relying on it are now dead, but the model is still decent in my mind

i believe it all depends on how you market it.

posting on gfy won't make me much.... just gets me out there is all and I enjoy it

i plan on marketing it in a lot of different ways and seeing if any of them works....

Shap 12-17-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16657875)
but but but i LIKE poking people...................

I know :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-17-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16657853)
Correct, I sell weed.

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/ne...1244693883.jpg



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xxweekxx 12-17-2009 05:07 PM

i just watched the videos for the first time, so now i have something else to add, i think what you are offering is not worth the price point...

so basically surfer will pay $30 a month to get one new porn video from 1980 that shows 1-2 "signals".. i dont think its the right approach...

make some vids of a guy going out in public meeting girls, etc, itll sell... i showed this to 2 of my best buds, and they didnt understand, and after watching the vids they are like wtf is this shit? anyway the concept is nice, just need some tweaking and capital..

you need to shoot some custom videos in High quality.. this isnt 2002, its 2009, old shitty vids dont work anymore

ThumbLord 12-17-2009 05:14 PM

GOD, so it looks like I agree with Shap.
please let me sleep through this and when awake tomorrow this is all a bad dream.
I checked the domain and got confused, so I asked people that have no clue of the Industry to look as well, yep my favorite pub has WIFI, and .......... well we all got drunk and still had no clue.
So I am clueless but heh ........ if Sleazy thinks this is a winner, who am I to ditch this idea.

StoneOzark 12-17-2009 05:14 PM

Looks good so far, in your link trade section will you have a area for softcore or will it all be together ? I'd give you an " A " for effort trying to start and build something from the ground up.


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