Might want to wait untill he get's VISA approved?

i think the design needs to get more fresh, maybe a bit of web 2.0 look with some punch ups of classic porn sales styling.

the buttons, nav areas, labels of signals, and header area all give me the feeling of old, including the type facing. get some css text and proper sizing for making what you want people to read, well pleasant to read.

also that line about no virgins, all models fucked, needs to go up top with some more suggestion, or even small semi-opaque caps from the hardcore.

interest starts at the top of the page.

oh, and if your teaching the how to pick up on the signals and execute,

Then perhaps "Women use body language to flirt and to seduce men." --> "Women use body langauge to flirt and get a response, learn how to read them, learn how to use them, learn how to close them"

Needs more bevel and embossing

I am pretty sure Topbucks had one a few years ago too but i looked and it is no more.

thanks Slaezy, always a pleasure working with you.

I worked with you on the design, banners, ads etc... the whole package! Cheers to your launch

Great idea Sleazy.

Suggestion: Make it more Web 2.0. This sort of site would work great like that.

Good luck fella.

Good luck with that :thumbsup

Pretty cool idea, I like this. Might be a good fit for one of our members areas as an upsell. Only comment I have is the design could use some work. Other than that its great :)

I will be in touch

lol I can take a site that I am the only one working on it and move it from a 12,500,000 alexa ranking to 1,500,000 just from me having the alexa tool bar installed on my browser. :2 cents:


This is why I don't think it is good to hype stuff, the expectations usually fall short. Especially when the design and photo cut outs look 90's ish.

I do wish you luck, don't mean to be insulting, just expected more. You might get some people here to sympothy promote, but I don't see this going over well with surfers. What are they signing up to see? more cut out girls ? just pictures? full length videos are all over the place for free and you want a surfer to join for some cut out pictures ? If they signing up for advice on how to pick up girls, 1. they don't know who you are so why would they want advice from you? 2. there is tons of blogs and other free info out there they can read up on.

If you want some more constructive criticism let me know I will look over it more.

Also, If I were you I would promote it myself with my own traffic and tweak things, make it convert better, before trying to get affiliates to a site.

I know you will likely take all of that the wrong way and see it as an attack, people never want to hear bad things about something they are excited about.... but it wasn't meant to be mean.

If i am missing something or not getting what the site is about, then it needs to be more clear. I looked over it for about 2 minutes, about 1 minute longer than most people will.

You sure redefined the word "hype"... congrats on the launch tough!

Just got done browsing 100s of PORN videos on tube8. I think I am ready to hit the bars now and use my new pick up skillllz :thumbsup:1orglaugh

I agree. I really don't get it at all.

It's a bunch of stock image women looking at a camera in a different pose. I really really don't get what the hell this site is and frankly I'm not going to bother figuring it out. I just closed it.

PS entrance page sucks, put a pic of a female and take off the dictionary definition

night and day.... thanks for adding the rest of the info to your claims that you fucked dozens of girls off of AFF... as a single guy I doubt that you could even find and talk to dozens of REAL girls. If you have a GF that you throw into the mix, yeah it will help you get laid 100000x better than if you were just another single dude.

So if you don't know how the single side works, then why start a site trying to give advice to single guys and charging them for it ?

Good luck man!

Had the same experience.

Yeah, there's been at least a half dozen adult sites with this same concept come out, all with limited to no success. Not sure why he thinks he's somehow the first on the scene now.

Right on Sleazy !!! Looks good and forsure you will make it work :)

Ok I just watched a little more... giving you the benefit of the doubt that I missed something the first time. I watched a "suduction video"... so you took an average, very obvious porn video where the models are paid, and point out things she is doing to try to seduce the guy???

The idea has some potential... but if you seriously wanted to execute it you would need to shoot your own content not use stock porn vids. My suggestion on how to do the concept right would be to shoot your on vids in bars or just out in public, even if they are staged make them have the appearence of being real. Make it more like a video how to, have a guy go up to the girl and strike out doing something wrong, then give "your advice" have he go back at her and show him being successful. Make it part comedy by showing them what not to do as much as you show them what to do.

Take it a step further and make it educational. With your own clips you can get a model to get naked and first point out all the different parts of her body naked, what she likes to have done to her, how to do it, etc... The proper way to eat pussy, the wrong way.... etc... you can mix in the porn here. Get people to submit their own videos, if your videos are real good/funny it could go viral which is your best chance at traffic.

The way you have it now, it's not clear what you are selling. I don't think many people would come back if they even understood it. It's not relivent. pointing out what a chick is doing on a porn video that she is paid to do does not = to showing single guys the right way to pick up girls :upsidedow You would need to basically start over, and with a MUCH bigger budget, shoot your owncontent and make the site look more like 2010 not 1996. Since you are on a budget try to partner with a content shooter who would be willing to do most of the work (not sure what you would have to offer other than some traffic).

Try to put your ego a side and read what I posted, if it helps pretend that one of your bros posted it and not me. I know you see my name you already think... idiot.. he is trying to troll.... etc... i'm giving you very good, free advice.

Or if you like I could just say...

" WOW looks great, you will make millions" like a lot of your bros here. But who is really helping you, me or them ?

i love how the trolls that never made any money don't have a clue....

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I would be interested in finding out the results for this site .
One thing that i would suggest , instead of using pornstars / European models
on the tour. I think it would look alot better if you just shot exclusive real amateur content for this site ,
you can get really hot looking girls - exclusive - cheap content for this since it is non-nude and it's just photos
even if you were going to shoot a few videos as well it shouldn't cost much .

must be hard to be a misunderstood genius.

good idea man ... but better it will be with some unique girls or content :winkwink: i dont think you have unique content ... ? wish you best with the site man! :thumbsup

Good luck with it Sleazy, I think it's going to do very well for you.

I make 5 figs a month (ya not massive but whatever), and my feedback was constructive. I suggest reading it. I am a surfer coming in with no idea what the site was supposed to be and left the same way.

I am not malicious, I am actually giving you feedback.

i agree with these points..

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yep:thumbsup

Am I the only one who has no idea what this site is offering?

that will come and i plan on doing that..... remember I'm currently bankrupt

sleazy, good luck!

don't forget- you can upsell furry hats.

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I actually couldn't go to sleep last night thinking about this. I hate to see anyone fail at something they put their heart into. I have failed so many times on wild projects I thought was great but in reality they were dumb as fuck. Scott, drop your ego and listen to these people. All the bros you talked to when you were developing this did you a diservice by not telling you the truth about this idea. Scott scrap this project now, don't throw good money after bad man. I failed twice at trying to make paysites, but nobody knew cause I didn't tell anyone in case they did fail, which sure enough they did. Here you have incredibly smart paysite owners who have made millions over the years closing down shop, they know paysites front and back and they are failing. Do what you know works man. Make some legal tube sites, something that others are doing right now that's working. Please man

I failed just as big as you did at a off line business. I had this crazy idea to buy tons of cheap silver jewelry, rent out rooms in antique stores and sell it. Great idea as the antique stores would sell it for me, take 10% then I just restock the rooms. I can't tell you how many hours of labor me, my wife, and my daughters put into this. I think I invested close to 200k into this. Display cases, display things for rings necklaces etc I have so much shit in my garage from this it's not even funny. About 150k was invested into the jewelry itself. Well as soon as I had 3 rooms set up guess what happened? Economy went to shit. Right now as I post this my daughter is sorting the jewelry so we can knock out the valuable stones and take 150k of silver jewelry to a smelter where I'll be lucky to get 40k for the sliver itself after they melt it all.

As others have said prove me wrong man, I wished you could but in my opinion no matter how you skin this cat it's not gonna pur, ever. Scrap it now, cut your losses and go on with your life man.

I just checked this out for the first time, it sucks.

I am so sorry for my post Scott, I hope in the near future you will realize who your real friends are.

very cool man, best of luck

I agree and have said as much to him... his response was that I was a troll that never made any money. When I would bet I've made more than him and sure I still do make more. Everything I posted to him, which was good advice went on deaf ears... there is no point arguing with him, this project doesn't have a chance as it is especially on a low budget. He really needs to shoot his own content to have a chance.

I've failed at several projects in the past. I value feedback and I learned the hard way to get lots of feedback before you start a project. I don't care who it is from if it makes sense. I don't know which bros told him that this site was great and he would do well... :warning hard to imagine people really think that, perhaps they just don't want to make him sad by saying the truth and instead tell him what he wants to hear.

i think those shitty cropped russian outdated porn pics are horrible for the tour. you need to hire some real girls and get pictures. every hot 18 year old on the planet wants to be a model so finding one to do clothed modeling for shit wages should be very easy.

yes, only you and the other trolls who have never made any money are confussed, everyone else gets it and thinks he will do well.


/ this is embarassing.

Scott best of luck to you. Now that the development is done you get to do the fun part in marketing and watching it grow. Take a look at the videos however cuz none of them play for me.

Seriously.... what is with all of you people who say " cool, good luck" "you will do well" .... WTF ?? do you really think that? Why even post anything. IF you really gave a shit about him in the least instead of falsely inflating his ego that this is a great idea and he should move forward why not be honest with him?

If you really think it will do well, then please state why... obviously I missed it.

Kind words aren't going to help him make sales. And 90% of you who say you will put up links wont even if you really thought it was as great idea. :2 cents:

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Pulled links for now... i'll wait until the dust settles down. Sorry Sleazy... just biz.