I did two tours in Vietnam kid. I watched grown HARD men cry like babies. It has nothing to do with if you shed tears or not. Hell, I cried while shooting women and kids in the head as they charged me, but I had to do it. It's the human thing to do. It has to do with if you accomplish your mission or not and everyone comes back alive.

OMG scary video :(

I feel sorry for these kids, laughing about this is sick. The OP is a moron. I just don't believe in these wars and don't think all the killing and dying is worth it. That's the last thing I'll say on it.

This is the first time I have ever posted on here bad-mouthing anyone, but you really are a worthless piece of shit.

Regardless of the morals of this war, these guys are doing their job and of course some will get scared. If you claim military experience then you would know that! I did my service in the British Army, but was lucky to only see any action in Northern Ireland, and am grateful to have not been to Iraq. Even in NI we got shot at, and it was scary! And anyone in this situation that claims to not be even remotely scarred is probably lying - or complacent which is when a fuckup occurs!

You seriously need to get a life!

Damn, I've instantly got to assume you've seen far more hardcore shit in your life than anyone else here could ever claim.

You are so clueless. Maybe that is what they do in Canada, but you can not just "join" the military here.

that is not how they do it in Canada.. tho things have been relaxed during a-stan..

it is much closer to happening than most people realize. It will not come in the form of the world bank stating that it has changed its policy or anything like that. If/When it happens it will come in the form of more and more countries stating that they are going to be buying / selling their oil in something other than dollars

right now there are only a handful of countries that buy and sell oil in euros, that will change soon enough. iraq decided they would start dealing oil in euros... that happened about 6 to 9 months (not sure exact dates) before we invaded them.

the first thing we did was reverse that policy.

a lot of people argue that we invaded iraq for its oil. that is not true. we did not get any extra oil from iraq, but we did force it to sell its oil in u.s. dollars

the reason foreign countries are forced to keep large inventories of dollars is so they can buy oil. they are definitely not keeping dollars because its a good investment, that has not been the case in a long time

which countries?

Prolly the countries who are being vilified on Fox, CNN, and MSNBC in order to convince the dumbed down masses that invading and murdering these people will be good for the USA :thumbsup

Well said. What a lot of people don't understand that with the US Dollar as the world currency, all the USA had to do to pay off it's debt was print more paper, in a nutshell.

When the dollar is no longer the main world currency for oil, those debts will cripple this country. Plain and simple.

I did not read all posts, but I am sure that all real vets. think you're an idiot posting this talking down on the soldiers. Anyone that have been shot at, seen the results of roadsides or gotten hit by one, taken under mortar fire or whatever, knows that it is scary shit! Many do not "get scared" when things happend, but hell it can backfire years after. I know all about that! Perfectly normal to be scared, as you have no idea if the next one will hit you in the head.... It is better to show respect to all soldiers that served. Leave the politics to the politicians, but give honor to the girls and boys that goes and do the dirty work that our goverment ask us to... My 2C

OP should take a step back and literally fuck his own face. Classless piece of shit.

And people are gonna wonder what went wrong when your economy really does hit rock bottom... :1orglaugh

:disgust

I dont want to think about it for a second.
I was in europe this summer and got assraped exchanging dollars into euros. :disgust

The same reason why some people spend 20-30 years working for the same company. They are content with what they've got, and never saw a reason to take their experience to a company willing to pay more.

A recent report made by the military is that 1 out of every 24 applicants are accepted into the military (the others are found unfit to serve for a multitude of reasons)...even with the current lowered standards for enlistment...and standards are reduced any time the military needs warm bodies.

To the clown who posted this: No humor there, bud. I did Bosnia-Herzegovina in 99' (NATO SFOR), Eritrea/Ethiopia (late 00' - 01), and then Iraq from 03'-07,' on the ground, the full front and center in combat (not support, no logistics, not anything, look at my current pic). YOU have never been on the receiving end of a Al Samoud II missile, a Katyusha rocket, a mortar of any type, an IED, a VBIED, an EFP, HMG fire, small arms fire, or, fuck, (probably) even a .22 round, pellet, or BB. Who the fuck are you to judge the men and women who are always defending your freedoms, including the very shit that you sell every day, even if you don't agree with where they are currently operating or whatever bullshit cause that you think that they're supporting? You have ZERO clue of what those attacks feel like. Or, what it is to perform emergency first aid to keep your friends alive. Or, to volunteer to take the 'point' on the move. Only a select few will ever experience that and I am proud, whether you degrade a cause or not, that I can call myself a Warrior. And, with that title (meaning knowledge and experience of what we're actually watching in that video), I am allowed to judge. And, I judge you as a complete fuckhead who would probably not only cry, but piss and shit himself, if someone even punched him.

And, to the guy who was saying that Soldiers are 'uneducated:' No offense, but I will graduate my MBA program in 2010. I've never failed a course, school, or any other program in my life. I already hold a Postgraduate certification and I speak (nearly) fluent Arabic. If you would open your mind and visit your local Soldiers (especially those that have served more than a 3-5 year stint), you would see that most of them have chosen to move forward with onward education, 'on the side' businesses, or even something that just 'gives back,' like charity work. To classify everyone who serves (even for the most part) as uneducated or otherwise, only makes clear your own naivety.

To my brothers and sisters at arms, I have never met finer people in my life and I will always have your back, as you will have mine. To my very own sister who is currently the Deputy DCOS for NATO in A-stan: I love you, I stand by you, and may God stay with you through the remaining 6-7 months of your rotation (and, yes bitches, she is combat arms as well: Artillery).

I scored 99th percentile on the ASVAB back in high school when recruiters were everywhere and as a confused teenager in a poor family, I considered joining the military. So basically I could have chosen whatever I wanted to do. Ultimately I decided not to go in. A friend of mine did go in in the army and sure enough served in Iraq. I might have had the luxury of not having to go depending on what job I chose but he scored pretty high on it too and iirc was going to be a linguist.

Given the empty reasoning behind the Iraq war, I'm glad I didn't go into the military simply because I would not have wanted to serve over there. Protecting our country or even an ally that has problems protecting itself is one thing, but IMO that is not at all what is taking place over there. Maybe initially in Afghanistan but these days not anymore there either. But hey, I'm sure Cheney and others have their pockets sufficiently lined from it all.

And btw, the OP and assholes like him are all douches. Crying does not make someone a coward, and bravery is a bit overrated anyways...bravery alone does not make someone cool or even a good person. Someone can be brave and meaningless while a coward can still save tons of lives. So yea, fuck off.

Good post. Some civilians are unaware that all Officers have...at the least a Bachelor Degree and many of them...if not most...have advanced degrees. They are also unaware that most...if not all...Senior NCO's (and some Junior NCO's) have at least an Associate Degree and many have a Bachelor Degree as well as advanced degrees. They make the military their career...not because they are not qualified to do anything else...but because they choose to make the military a career for multiple reasons.

You also are correct when you say that some run other businesses while they are in the military. I for one...began a business and ran it for ten of my twelve years of service...a business that I continued with up until a few years ago. I would have stayed for thirty years if I had not been forced to be medically discharged...and certainly not because I was not qualified to do something else.

Being educated makes you more of an idiot for fighting in a war you should know is senseless. Tell your sister to come home and stop risking her life for a government that doesn't give 2 shits about hers.

You are beyond clueless.

Clueless, classless, ignorant, and arrogant.

Refer to this document:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=943896
Thread solved.
Carry on.

It's a good one. :1orglaugh

Nothing along side of your post in this thread. :thumbsup

With a hint of sarcasm or ... ? Because, I certainly meant that your new thread is superb. :)

No sarcasm.. Something was lost over the wire.. :)
I'm not saying that the KEYBOARD failed, mind you,
It was the WIRE... :thumbsup

I do not find that funny at all you fucking idiot

Many eyes watch this with many personal backgrounds. Some can laugh their ass off hearing them pray to God so much, and other people feel for these guys who are probably not Rambo`s and asked for this bullshit anyway. They are brave enough to serve their country for whatever purpose that may be.
Nice found btw, I was not aware of this Video

Brave?? I think bravery is something you get after you have been scared like hell. Yes i find them brave enough.... After this they can become heros in their own way if they want and not end up traumatized of the war.

I'm 65 years old and been around the block more than once. Seen my share of carnage, done my share of wrong, and living the latter part of my life trying to make good for the sins I've done. There ain't no glory in a hardcore life, that much you can believe.

HA! I was completely doing the math on your age today while I was cleaning up the house. But, that earlier picture that you had up ... doesn't look old at all! :) You're doing well, man. :)

This is normal, they are tough guys when there is no danger. I saw a film from Afghanistan.. typical situation: there is a whole army of US soldiers and like 5 Afghan bad boys hiding inside their clay house.. then we see the "dangerous" action.. American view of fight means staying safe 200 meters away from the house, calling a helicopter that will bomb the place for 5 minutes, then pulling out mine-throwers and bombing it for another 10 minutes, then using machine guns and firing at the house for 15 mins.. then when there is like 1 bad guy still left alive, hiding inside, they send 15 men to come closer ..and use grenades to pull the guy out.

They call this "war".. :1orglaugh

Ok, so what would your Rambo-ass do? Put a knife between your teeth and low-crawl until you got close enough to take out the lead guard (after, of course, throwing some rocks to distract him and make him go investigate something)? And, then burst into the room with an UZI and spray down the room? Let me guess: You'd be wearing all black and have a kick-ass headband on too, right? :1orglaugh

No fucking doubt - real war is not the movies, asshat. And, if it means having a Hellfire, Javelin, JDAM, tank round, rocket, or any other heavy support / CAS assist me in killing bad guys, completing my mission, and getting my people home to their families, bring on the fucking fireworks. It's not being a pussy. It's being smart because you DON'T know what is in that house. It could easily be a reinforced bunker. It could easily be rigged with explosives.

True story: A naval special warfare friend was clearing a house in Anbar in 2005. He was responsible for making entry for their stack. He approached the door to do his work (which was a thin, wooden affair) and was shot in the face, through the door. He died instantly.

I would love to put some of the haters / bullshitters / Rambos, specifically in this thread, in Kevlar for a week, take you for a drive in Diyala, and clear houses. Be honest with yourself for a minute: Would we even get out of the camp's gate? Even in 2009-2010, when it is decently calm? :1orglaugh

I am being 100% honest with myself when I say "No, I wouldn't make it out the gate" Fuck, I wouldn't make it on the plane, that took to the fence, that had the gate.

For the same reason I'm not a bullrider. Because I'm not fucking stupid... :2 cents:

But hey, to each their own. If it makes you feel like more of a "man" or "warrior", be my guest. And if you don't like people openly expressing their opinions that they think you're a fucking idiot for doing it, quit going and fighting for their right to freely think so... :1orglaugh

Wow, scary stuff written on his page page.



Long Live the Islamic Republic of Iran

Long Live SYRIA

Long Live Hezbollah

Long Live Hamas

whats so scarry about two countries living long? enlighten us please sugar tits...

Easy to laugh when you are not in that situation. If you had actually been in a war I would think you would sympathetic. I do not find that video humerous at all. Anyone that does is a sick fuck. :2 cents: