would MGPs/TGPs be doing better if they didn't skim so much? - GoFuckYourself.com

dyna mo · 10-23-2009, 10:03 AM

seems to me a fundamental difference between them and tubes is the crazy level of skim.

with tubes, 1-click gets you to what you want, with MGP/TGP it's a click and cross your fingers.

cosis · 10-23-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

seems to me a fundamental difference between them and tubes is the crazy level of skim.

with tubes, 1-click gets you to what you want, with MGP/TGP it's a click and cross your fingers.

Also the length of video is a big difference

Klen · 10-23-2009, 10:05 AM

Actually there is more and more cj tube sites so it's same shit on the end.

dyna mo · 10-23-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Actually there is more and more cj tube sites so it's same shit on the end.

i wasn't aware of that, so they are circle jerking as bad or close to as bad?

96ukssob · 10-23-2009, 10:18 AM

problem is that TGP/MGP sites are still following old school rules of skimming.

on mine, i try and send the first few clicks to galleries, then skim after that otherwise the person will just bounce.

i have noticed more and more tube sites starting to skim traffic

Agent 488 · 10-23-2009, 10:19 AM

yeah tons of new networks of tubes that skim the fuck out of their traffic.

dyna mo · 10-23-2009, 10:23 AM

well, i think that is a good thing, if the tubes are skimming like that then.

Tom_PM · 10-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Skimming has always been a horribly unproductive activity IMHO. You have a surfer clicking a link or thumb for a gallery and WHAM you load a new site, pissing off he surfer (unquestionably).
And people WANT that traffic? no thank you.

dyna mo · 10-23-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Skimming has always been a horribly unproductive activity IMHO. You have a surfer clicking a link or thumb for a gallery and WHAM you load a new site, pissing off he surfer (unquestionably).
And people WANT that traffic? no thank you.

not only that, but if you click thru the skimmed sites long enough you will ultimately click to an untrustworthy site.

then the trust of the original site is lost.

JamesK · 10-23-2009, 10:34 AM

They thrive on it. The site might get more bookmarkers but will lose traffic from trades at a significant rate. There's only a few sites (and webmasters) who can pull that off.

Tom_PM · 10-23-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

not only that, but if you click thru the skimmed sites long enough you will ultimately click to an untrustworthy site.

then the trust of the original site is lost.

Absolutely. I surfed a bunch of mgp's last night for vintage stuff and got tossed to so many sites it was just sick. First of all, I dont remember the original site I was on, nor any of the others, and some had questionable content, and some of them fucked with browser history when I closed them (reopening their own site and closing the previous. Shit like that, yeah that'll make me WANT to surf on your site, moron).

Anyway.. to each their own and I wish all good luck.

kowalsky · 10-23-2009, 12:21 PM

There is no way back. MGPs and TGPs will continue droping traffic against Tube sites...

Tom_PM · 10-23-2009, 01:16 PM

I think tgps/mgps would have done better with no skimming before tubes, during tubes, and after tubes. Just to clarify.

The skimming for other equally poor skimmed traffic is the thing. Hopefully tubes will avoid this inevitable trap.

FrozenJag · 10-23-2009, 01:24 PM

For every 1 non skimming tube there is 10 hardcore skimming tubes.

Their business model is simply to sell traffic. Check any of the top sellers to any of the brokers and they are skimming tubes.

TGP / MGP

I have my skim very mild compared to most and therefore make better sales then most, however it is definetly harder to build traffic that way but its definetly possible through smart webmastering and great seo.

I send about 70 to 75 percent to content while alot send 50 to 60. Its a HUGE difference in hits to sponsors and sales. I dunno, as long as its a profitable business model for me ill continue to make a living from it.

Barefootsies · 10-23-2009, 01:26 PM

Depends.

Just like a difference in tubes, there is a difference in TGPS. Some are for traffic, some are for sign ups and sales. There typically is not 'one' definition for these TGP/tubes as they vary.

FrozenJag · 10-23-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Depends.

Just like a difference in tubes, there is a difference in TGPS. Some are for traffic, some are for sign ups and sales. There typically is not 'one' definition for these TGP/tubes as they vary.

Yeah, I totally agree.

Well said.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,911	would MGPs/TGPs be doing better if they didn't skim so much? seems to me a fundamental difference between them and tubes is the crazy level of skim. with tubes, 1-click gets you to what you want, with MGP/TGP it's a click and cross your fingers.

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96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	problem is that TGP/MGP sites are still following old school rules of skimming. on mine, i try and send the first few clicks to galleries, then skim after that otherwise the person will just bounce. i have noticed more and more tube sites starting to skim traffic __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Skimming has always been a horribly unproductive activity IMHO. You have a surfer clicking a link or thumb for a gallery and WHAM you load a new site, pissing off he surfer (unquestionably). And people WANT that traffic? no thank you. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	They thrive on it. The site might get more bookmarkers but will lose traffic from trades at a significant rate. There's only a few sites (and webmasters) who can pull that off. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

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kowalsky Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,494	There is no way back. MGPs and TGPs will continue droping traffic against Tube sites... __________________ Jimmy Kowalsky www.catchycash.com [email protected] ICQ - 7319094

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Actually there is more and more cj tube sites so it's same shit on the end.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	yeah tons of new networks of tubes that skim the fuck out of their traffic.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,911	well, i think that is a good thing, if the tubes are skimming like that then.

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I think tgps/mgps would have done better with no skimming before tubes, during tubes, and after tubes. Just to clarify. The skimming for other equally poor skimmed traffic is the thing. Hopefully tubes will avoid this inevitable trap. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

10-23-2009, 01:24 PM	#14
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	For every 1 non skimming tube there is 10 hardcore skimming tubes. Their business model is simply to sell traffic. Check any of the top sellers to any of the brokers and they are skimming tubes. TGP / MGP I have my skim very mild compared to most and therefore make better sales then most, however it is definetly harder to build traffic that way but its definetly possible through smart webmastering and great seo. I send about 70 to 75 percent to content while alot send 50 to 60. Its a HUGE difference in hits to sponsors and sales. I dunno, as long as its a profitable business model for me ill continue to make a living from it.

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Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Depends. Just like a difference in tubes, there is a difference in TGPS. Some are for traffic, some are for sign ups and sales. There typically is not 'one' definition for these TGP/tubes as they vary. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"