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Old 10-16-2009, 06:20 PM   #1
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Looking for an affiliate manager

Hi,

We are looking for a good affiliate manager interested in selling 2 CCBill products (one adult, one non adult). These products are not really standard, but they converts fine so there is huge potential for anyone motivated and with the rights connections.

We need someone who knows how to sell, be cool and charismatic with all potential partners.

Your refered partners earn 60% end user price.
We are giving you a generous 20% of all your refered partners' earnings (all CCBill stats).
In other words, when one of your partners earn $100, you earn $33

This is an excellent opportunity for someone who knows what he/she's doing.
Non competitive products - Easy to sell
Serious proposal, serious and professionnal candidate only please.
Email me cv at gooo113 /at/ gmail . com and let's talk!

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Old 10-16-2009, 06:28 PM   #2
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Your refered partners earn 60% end user price.
We are giving you a generous 20% of all your refered partners' earnings (all CCBill stats).
In other words, when one of your partners earn $100, you earn $33
dunno if your or my math is off, but to me its like $20 and not $33
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:30 PM   #3
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:33 PM   #4
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Looking for an affiliate manager with comish only sux
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:38 PM   #5
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dunno if your or my math is off, but to me its like $20 and not $33
When $166 are processed by CCBill, affiliate gets 60% ($100) and affiliate manager gets 20% ($33).
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:46 PM   #6
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so you are going to operate off only 5-10% margins after CCbill fee?
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:49 PM   #7
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Looking for an affiliate manager with comish only sux
I agree with you Leroy, definitely.

However there are 99.9999% chance that the right candidate does not live near our offices. we are looking for someone to work remotely, who basically can organise his time the way he/she wants. It is pretty cool to work from home for anyone who has a portofolio of clients/partners. So that's why it's comish based only, i think it makes sense.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:54 PM   #8
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so you are going to operate off only 5-10% margins after CCbill fee?
yes that's correct
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:20 PM   #9
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I agree with you Leroy, definitely.

However there are 99.9999% chance that the right candidate does not live near our offices. we are looking for someone to work remotely, who basically can organise his time the way he/she wants. It is pretty cool to work from home for anyone who has a portofolio of clients/partners. So that's why it's comish based only, i think it makes sense.
Real experience and ability versus wasted time usually requires assured money otherwise they are taking all of the risk for very little rewards. Especially with a brand new site/program with no track record. Even building up the commissions can take a couple months and honestly I seen it way to many times when once some offer like this gets someone with a contact list, they can them shortly after contact has been made.

Not even going to factor in the issues of how many affiliates, even ones that such a person may personally know in their Rolodex - take their sweet ass time getting you traffic, especially for unconventional type products. SEO, blog work, etc. all takes time to develop.

Good luck though.
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Jobs like this suck.

It takes time to build up traffic and sales to a new program, no matter how impressive the rep's contact list is.

There's no guarantee that once the rep starts making big $$ that you won't decide to just cut him out of the picture. This happens all the time too.

So basically the rep works for free for the first few months while building up the traffic and branding for you, and then when the rewards start coming in, there's nothing to keep you from kicking them to the curb to keep all the profits for yourself.

The only way really to make this work for both parties is to pay the rep a base plus a bonus structure that rewards good performance.
Since it will likely be a remote position, you have to set certain benchmarks that the rep has to meet on a daily/weekly basis in order to continue in the position.

Do program owners get burned sometimes paying a salary to someone who doesn't produce diddly squat?
Absolutely, that's why the mutually agreed upon benchmarks are so important.

On the other hand, if you don't have the money in your budget to pay out a decent salary to a rep, then your program isn't going to be around long enough to make it worth tarnishing my rep by being associated with it.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:30 PM   #11
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Jobs like this suck.

It takes time to build up traffic and sales to a new program, no matter how impressive the rep's contact list is.

There's no guarantee that once the rep starts making big $$ that you won't decide to just cut him out of the picture. This happens all the time too.

So basically the rep works for free for the first few months while building up the traffic and branding for you, and then when the rewards start coming in, there's nothing to keep you from kicking them to the curb to keep all the profits for yourself.

The only way really to make this work for both parties is to pay the rep a base plus a bonus structure that rewards good performance.
Since it will likely be a remote position, you have to set certain benchmarks that the rep has to meet on a daily/weekly basis in order to continue in the position.

Do program owners get burned sometimes paying a salary to someone who doesn't produce diddly squat?
Absolutely, that's why the mutually agreed upon benchmarks are so important.

On the other hand, if you don't have the money in your budget to pay out a decent salary to a rep, then your program isn't going to be around long enough to make it worth tarnishing my rep by being associated with it.
Wow - some excellent points! We're almost there at MRPW in terms of looking for something similar, an affiliate manager (once the re-design is finished) so thanks for giving me lots to think about.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:50 AM   #12
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So basically the rep works for free for the first few months while building up the traffic and branding for you, and then when the rewards start coming in, there's nothing to keep you from kicking them to the curb to keep all the profits for yourself.
Why would you want to fire a guy that brings you business ??? Sorry i dont get it.
If the guy brings partners in, why would i fire him ?
Please explain to me ...

We can set up the deal so that the affiliate manager is paid directly by CCBill.
That way i cant fire him, i am not able to hold his money, etc
Or his money put onto an escrow, anything that works for the affiliate manager works for me.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:20 AM   #13
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its like saying "looking to hire affiliates, will pay 50% of all signups you send"

if its commission only allow anyone to do this

quality people will want some sort of base
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:42 AM   #14
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its like saying "looking to hire affiliates, will pay 50% of all signups you send"

if its commission only allow anyone to do this

quality people will want some sort of base
yep, better be a GREAT product If It's commission only.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:26 AM   #15
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:13 PM   #16
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is this a p/t job and telecommuting job?
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:18 PM   #17
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:41 PM   #18
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Why would you want to fire a guy that brings you business ??? Sorry i dont get it.
If the guy brings partners in, why would i fire him ?
Please explain to me ...

We can set up the deal so that the affiliate manager is paid directly by CCBill.
That way i cant fire him, i am not able to hold his money, etc
Or his money put onto an escrow, anything that works for the affiliate manager works for me.
Okay, first of all, whether you pay your affiliate manager thru CC Bill or not you can always 'fire' him/her. How they get paid doesn't mean you can't fire them.

Second: why would anyone fire someone in the first place if their making you money? Okay, let's take this (real-life) scenario: Your affiliate manager gets you some kick-ass affiliates who make you BIG BUCKS. You never knew these affiliates even existed! But there they are, making you bank. Your affiliate manager brought these affiliates to you but now that everything is set up and running, you no longer need your a.m. to 'get' you something you've already got, right? Sure, the a.m. may be a good hand-holder and help massage sales from various affiliates but shit, YOU could do that!

So it's bye-bye affiliate manager, thanks for all the great affiliates, now don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya. Happens ALL the time.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:21 AM   #19
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You never knew these affiliates even existed.
I have been in this business long enough to know every site that can make bank.
You are thinking too much, you should be working instead of giving me advices on GFY ;)
The only reason why i need an affiliate manager is that i dont have TIME to do the work myself. I will even give the a.m. a list of potential partners to contact and make deals with.

Still looking for someone!
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Yes Jai, it's a telecomuting job
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Why would you want to fire a guy that brings you business ??? Sorry i dont get it.
If the guy brings partners in, why would i fire him ?
Please explain to me ...

We can set up the deal so that the affiliate manager is paid directly by CCBill.
That way i cant fire him, i am not able to hold his money, etc
Or his money put onto an escrow, anything that works for the affiliate manager works for me.
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I have been in this business long enough to know every site that can make bank.
You are thinking too much, you should be working instead of giving me advices on GFY ;)
The only reason why i need an affiliate manager is that i dont have TIME to do the work myself. I will even give the a.m. a list of potential partners to contact and make deals with.

Still looking for someone!
Send me an email on gooo113 @ gmail .c om
Wow, first you make a post that shows your naivete regarding affiliate managers, and then you belittle the guy giving you advice by telling him how long you've been in this business.

Either you're lying about how long you've been around, or you've been sleeping the whole time.

If you were such a player, then you'd be able to afford to pay a decent salary to someone to do this job that you say you "don't have time for".

The fact is, affiliates send their traffic where it makes them the most money.

New programs pop up every day and most affiliates don't pay attention, they have too much other shit to do. So an affiliate manager who has a nice contact list and knows how to find potential whales is very helpful in the beginning.
He's the guy who will get these people to give your program a try. A small test, just to see how you do.
How much of their traffic you ultimately get will depend on how much money you make the affiliate.....but once the affiliate is making money with you, it doesn't matter if the guy who talked him into trying your program is still there or not, all that matters is the $$.

You say "if the guy brings partners in, why would I fire him?"

Well once he's brought the partners in, and making himself 10K a month in commission, and you realize that you could fire him and keep most of that 10K for yourself (because the affiliates won't leave if you fire him, they'll only leave if they stop making good money with your program), you will fire him.
Happens all the damn time.

That's why any rep worth a damn will demand a salary plus commission or bonus. No way they'll work for straight commission unless you're handing them existing accounts worth $XXXX/month when they walk in the door.

TBH, anyone here would be better off writing blog posts on free hosts or spamming TGP's with shitloads of galleries or some shit like that rather than cold calling whales and begging them to send traffic to your CCbill program. At least they'll own the blog posts and galleries forever.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:31 PM   #22
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