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Old 12-11-2002, 12:18 PM   #51
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Cohen,

So now the way someone places photos on a page is somehow their "work"?

Compare those two galleries... different background colors, much larger page size, different .gifs

What the fuck is the problem?
my God - inbreading at its best.

You said it yourself "I told her to find one she liked and copy it"
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:19 PM   #52
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Donovan, Your content converts for me like mad, thank you for your work. Also I know sierra is your girlfriend, and if people here don't believe you, it doesn't really matter. I'll see you in vegas!!!
Thanks, man. I opened a can of worms here, huh? I'm just proud of Sierra's first shot. These guys get their panties up in a bunch. Geez.

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Old 12-11-2002, 12:19 PM   #53
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My girlfriend assists me when I shoot photos. Naturally, she also poses for me. She asked if she could start a site of her own and wanted to do all the HTML herself. She has ZERO experience with HTML. I got her a copy of Frontpage and let her go to work. I'm pretty proud of her first ever shot at web design:

http://www.cmenude.com/

(She's Sierra - Tiffany is my cousin and happens to be great friends with my girlfriend. My GF took all the photos of Tiffany).

I told her to design a gallery to submit to TGP's. Here's her very first gallery:

http://cmenude.com/galleries/

I think both of these are great for a first ever effort. She had ZERO help from me. I made her figure it all out on her own.

Honestly: what do you think?

I would throw in some more shaved pussy pix...
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:19 PM   #54
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FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
that gallery is stolen, it was made by me for boldy - kimhollandcash.com ...

proof? check here:
http://www.wedesignxxx.com/kim/11/english/

more proof? WTF is with this code on "your" gallery:

onmouseover="window.status='http://www.kimholland.com/free-preview.html' ; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" href="http://www.kimholland.com/click.php?entrypage_id=9999&partner_id=17416r&nich e=3"
Obviously stolen.

Layouts are up in the air, but the blatant snagging of html source is a no no.

Busted.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:19 PM   #55
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His cousin looks better.

Tell me he dont tug to it.

Creepy.

I think his cousin has a nicer, prettier pussy. I totally want to jack off to her right now. I wonder who's pussy he likes better?

What do you think, Donavan?

Tiffany's pussy?
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Sierra's pussy?
Which one looks better to you?
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:21 PM   #56
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Your "work" wasn't stolen. The layout was copied. The photos are of Sierra and Tiffany. Sierra spent hours creating .gif's and .jpgs to plug into the layout. She did one hell of a job. You think you're layout is all that different from anyone elses? Compare the two side by side:

Sierra's
http://cmenude.com/galleries/

Yours:
http://www.wedesignxxx.com/kim/11/english/

There are a lot of differences. Your "work" wasn't stolen.
If you're going to STEAL someone's design, at least make sure you know how to erase all traces of their code when you do so.

If you have "kim holland" in your code, its called stealing.

Someone spent plenty of their own time developing the gallery your girl stole. If she was just "inspired" by a specific gallery fine, but to copy the code straight up and then change it, well that is stealing.

Would you mind if I "copied" all of your girlfriends pics and photoshopped my dog's head onto her body for a paysite?

After all, that would not be stealing, just copying.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:21 PM   #57
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That page looks totally different man, even the colors are different!! This is to funny.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:25 PM   #58
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both are very doable
if your GF is sick anytime, I'll handle the photoshoot of your cousin
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:26 PM   #59
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That page looks totally different man, even the colors are different!!
Exactly.

Here's the funny thing:

I tried to ICQ the guy. I wanted to offer to compensate him in some way, even though the galleries are different. He didn't want to talk. Whatever.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:28 PM   #60
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I would throw in some more shaved pussy pix...
There will be shaved pussy pix. Sierra's growing out for ATK's hairy site. She's normally bald. Should be a fun set to shoot when I photograph her shaving it all off.
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Donovan

I see you will be in Vegas, I would definantly like to meet ya. BTW if you would like I will make sure your cousin has a good time in Vegas.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:29 PM   #62
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Exactly.

Here's the funny thing:

I tried to ICQ the guy. I wanted to offer to compensate him in some way, even though the galleries are different. He didn't want to talk. Whatever.
Why dont you just admit you lied? And while you are online, please remove that galleri, the code isent yours. That way you MIGHT still have a future at this site?
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:34 PM   #63
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Man I cannot believe this.

A content provider is SUPPOSED to know copyright law and act beyond reproach on his activities. Blatantly stealing someone's work is not how a good and ethical content provider works. In a business where your reputation speaks far louder than your voice, you have to remain cleaner than clean.

What's next? It's cool that you steal someone else's content and resell it as yours because you changed the watermark on the bottom and made it a different color?

I think this behavior is unsatisfactory. Do your own work or PAY someone else to do it. This is not 1995 anymore. Right click save isn't cool like it used to be. ESPECIALLY for someone who deals in intellectual property.

The fact that you think this is OK makes it even worse.

Buy my content. We pay for our designs. Got Jizz and Porn in Public are the top feeds you can get. Ask any major sponsor and they'll tell you the same thing.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:35 PM   #64
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Why dont you just admit you lied?
I would if I'd lied. I didn't lie. Tell you what, check out her MSN Community if you want more proof:

http://www.msnusers.com/freenudephotos/

That's a community that she manages. If you're not familiar with MSN Communities, they're similar to Yahoo Groups. It's a point, click, create type of thing.

You can also check out the credits on thousands of ATK photos to see that I'm for real, and then head on over to Karups to notice several of my models on their site as well. Maybe take a look at Teen Flood and see my models there, AuntJudys.com to see my models there... some of the Lightspeed sites, some of the MaxCash sites.... the list goes on and on. Companies like these do not put up with Liars. Why do they do business with me?

What's YOUR resume?
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You were busted with a Kim Holland mouseover.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:40 PM   #66
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I would if I'd lied. I didn't lie. Tell you what, check out her MSN Community if you want more proof:

http://www.msnusers.com/freenudephotos/

ooohhhhh... then it MUST be true

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What's YOUR resume?
-My latest project is this baby - www.danishsexzone.com
A $150k site that will be up and running jan. 2003.

-Im starting a large video-content store that will be up feb. 2003

-Just payed Voodoo in advence for the design of a moviesite



Im out of this thread - waste of time. Did my part, to let people know what kind of show you run.
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"Man I cannot believe this.

A content provider is SUPPOSED to know copyright law and act beyond reproach on his activities. Blatantly stealing someone's work is not how a good and ethical content provider works. In a business where your reputation speaks far louder than your voice, you have to remain cleaner than clean.

What's next? It's cool that you steal someone else's content and resell it as yours because you changed the watermark on the bottom and made it a different color?

I think this behavior is unsatisfactory. Do your own work or PAY someone else to do it. This is not 1995 anymore. Right click save isn't cool like it used to be. ESPECIALLY for someone who deals in intellectual property.

The fact that you think this is OK makes it even worse."
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Look, man. She changed that page so much it's not even recognizable anymore. It's entirely different from his. She got a basic idea and then built on it.

Shall we not use the same color background as MSN because we're afraid they'll be pissed? Shall we not use a black background because GFY uses it?

Just for shits and giggles I'll take this page down and chalk it up to experience. Other people have already called me offering their gallery designs to my girlfriend.

The gallery is now gone.
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i must say this thread has been an absolute pleasure to read.

i notice that donovan's site is down.

Thank you for my day's entertainment on gfy
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Im so glad that archer is on my ignore list, or else his gay signature would have destroyed this thread for me
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Really? None of my sites are down. Hmmmm. Which pipe are you hitting?
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Im so glad that archer is on my ignore list, or else his gay signature would have destroyed this thread for me


putting me on ignore is your loss, cohen


but i will remember never to do business with flashlayout
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He may be a thief and if this is true, he will pay, I talked to him on ICQ before and I can say he is a rude fucker, that is for sure.

But I will manage fine without his content.
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He may be a thief and if this is true, he will pay, I talked to him on ICQ before and I can say he is a rude fucker, that is for sure.
You're not on my contact list. When was I rude to you? I'm rarely rude to anyone, unless they're trying to sell me something.
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He may be a thief and if this is true, he will pay, I talked to him on ICQ before and I can say he is a rude fucker, that is for sure.
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Ah... you're the guy from Paradise. You live 20 minutes from me. You were the one that wanted to come video tape my girls, right?
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putting me on ignore is your loss, cohen


but i will remember never to do business with flashlayout
And certainly others as well.

People think hating gays is okay.

Its not, and it reflects on them no matter how 'cool' tghey perceive themselves to be.

Weak.
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And certainly others as well.

People think hating gays is okay.

Its not, and it reflects on them no matter how 'cool' tghey perceive themselves to be.

Weak.
Did NOT do it because he is gay, that is just a little funny - dont mind that.
He posted a picture of a VERY blody pussy with different tools hanging out of it (craftmans tools biting into the flesh)
THAT was uncool - and THATS why he is on my ignore - NOT because he is gay
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bingo. if he says he didn't steal it, he's lying. the kim mouseover code was in the html for fuck sakes.
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Did NOT do it because he is gay, that is just a little funny - dont mind that.
He posted a picture of a VERY blody pussy with different tools hanging out of it (craftmans tools biting into the flesh)
THAT was uncool - and THATS why he is on my ignore - NOT because he is gay

then u've put the wrong person on ignore, cohen.

I would NEVER have posted such a picture, anywhere, let alone have such crap on my computer and i would challenge you to post the thread where you say i did that.

but that is not what u said before. You said:

"Im so glad that archer is on my ignore list, or else his gay signature would have destroyed this thread for me "

I guess maybe it's too late to edit your original post!
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It IS INDEED made using Front Page. No, it's not a Front Page "Template" but it IS made in Front Page.

On some parts she used Arles Image Web Page Creator to create a gallery, and then changed things in Front Page.
This thumbnail comes from your site:


No Arles Image Web Page Creator at all as you said 10 times in this post. It clearly says Adobe Photoshop 7.0!


very easy program to use for a newbie like your girlfriend
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then u've put the wrong person on ignore, cohen.

I would NEVER have posted such a picture, anywhere, let alone have such crap on my computer and i would challenge you to post the thread where you say i did that.

but that is not what u said before. You said:

"Im so glad that archer is on my ignore list, or else his gay signature would have destroyed this thread for me "

I guess maybe it's too late to edit your original post!
Dont have time to find it now, but will later.
I might be mistaken, but am pretty sure im not in this case.
I dont like your signature, said it and joked about it many times, but its still not enough to make me put you on ignore.
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ARcher - read this (BAD PICTURE INSIDE - DONT CLICK IF YOU JUST ATE)

I take it back , the one with the bloody pussy wasent you.
Read my post in the thread.
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Your ignorance is showing. The info you're seeing is from the original image. Do you really think a thumbnail would have the shutter speed and f-stop information recorded? This info is encoded on the file. Arles was used to create a gallery from the 16 photos she'd chosen.

But... for your information: Photoshop isn't hard to use. I am a content provider, remember? My girlfriend lives with me. She helps edit photos for me. She teaches ME new Photoshop tricks all the time. This was her first experience with HTML but she's been working at it for weeks now. She's getting better every day.

By the way, thanks for posting that info. I'm proud to own a D1, D1x, and several other cameras. You were kind enough to brag about my equipment for me.
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And certainly others as well.

People think hating gays is okay.

Its not, and it reflects on them no matter how 'cool' tghey perceive themselves to be.

Weak.
I have him on my ignore list too. I'm sure he's a great guy, I just don't want to see his sig. It's not because he's gay, I have no problem with that. However I'm not gay, and I appologise if this isn't politically correct, but I find looking at hardcore gay pornography disgusting. I don't think anyone should be forced to look stuff the find disgusting. Notice he's one of the only people with a hardcore signature, what's with that? Sorry if this isn't the "right" thing to say, I'm sure someone will say I'm a a homophobe or a closet homosexual or some other BS, but it's simply that I find hardcore gay images offensive. shoot me
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This thread is too funny, who would ever buy content from anyone as ignorant about copyright laws as this guy? Copying someones html is the same as copying someones graphics, or the hun's gallery list. It's all digital property. LOL, changing the background color and fonts doesn't help you. The funniest part is that this guy actually thinks he's in the right.
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and you are from where ??? Alabama, Arkansas ??

to each there own ... just stay the fukk away from MY cousins!

What none of you have a cousin you'd want to fuck if she wasn't related....
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:06 PM   #87
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:06 PM   #88
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I'm sure someone will say I'm a a homophobe or a closet homosexual or some other BS, but it's simply that I find hardcore gay images offensive. shoot me
WELL SAID - gays are so "holy" these days. You get braded homophobe just because you dont like gay porn - that is so fucked up. If they REALLY want equal rights, why do they want that special sencetive treatment from everybody?
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:12 PM   #89
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If they REALLY want equal rights, why do they want that special sencetive treatment from everybody?
Also well said.


I see no gaybashing going on here, just a couple guys who if given the option would rather not see a man getting ass fucked.
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:17 PM   #90
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Archer - what im saying is;
I REALLY hate your gay signature and that picture of the old lady - that have something to do with taste and the way we grew up.

I RELLY dont care about you being gay, as long as i dont have to hear about it all the time - do I tell you how hetro I am all the time? do I?
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The fact that you guys changed the subject from this guys girlfriend and cousin to discussing Archer's sig proves interest in gay material.

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Old 12-11-2002, 02:21 PM   #92
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The fact that you guys changed the subject from this guys girlfriend and cousin to discussing Archer's sig proves interest in gay material.

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Old 12-11-2002, 02:22 PM   #93
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The fact that you guys changed the subject from this guys girlfriend and cousin to discussing Archer's sig proves interest in gay material.

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Old 12-11-2002, 02:22 PM   #94
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:37 PM   #95
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Man I cannot believe this.

A content provider is SUPPOSED to know copyright law and act beyond reproach on his activities. Blatantly stealing someone's work is not how a good and ethical content provider works. In a business where your reputation speaks far louder than your voice, you have to remain cleaner than clean.

What's next? It's cool that you steal someone else's content and resell it as yours because you changed the watermark on the bottom and made it a different color?

I think this behavior is unsatisfactory. Do your own work or PAY someone else to do it. This is not 1995 anymore. Right click save isn't cool like it used to be. ESPECIALLY for someone who deals in intellectual property.

The fact that you think this is OK makes it even worse.

Buy my content. We pay for our designs. Got Jizz and Porn in Public are the top feeds you can get. Ask any major sponsor and they'll tell you the same thing.
I am surpised that a content provider thinks ripping someone's pages and claiming them as their own is okay. That was sort of odd.
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Let me know when Sierra has an affiliate program.

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that gallery is stolen, it was made by me for boldy - kimhollandcash.com ...

proof? check here:
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more proof? WTF is with this code on "your" gallery:

onmouseover="window.status='http://www.kimholland.com/free-preview.html' ; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" href="http://www.kimholland.com/click.php?entrypage_id=9999&partner_id=17416r&nich e=3"

I'm too fucking tired to read the whole thread, but ehh... who is gonna kick butt? You or me ? partner_id 17416r ... if i told you who this is you'll piss in your pants ...

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What do you think, Donavan? Tiffany's pussy? or Sierra's pussy?
Which one looks better to you?
Donavan. You never answered my question.
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LISTEN UP:

1. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
2. I didn't create the gallery (I did however tell my girlfriend to find a gallery she liked and copy it - my bad - next time I'll explain things a little better).
3. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
4. She changed the gallery so much it wasn't recognizeable.
5. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
6. There was a piece of "mouseover" code left in it and that was pretty much the only thing that it had in common with the original gallery.
7. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
8. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
9. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.
10. The gallery has been taken down and was never used to drive traffic to her site.

SO fucking shut up and quit whining.

Here are my galleries - if I was creating a gallery for my girlfriend it would look similar to this (she doesn't like the look of my galleries - thus she wanted advice on creating her own):

http://donovanphillips.com/free/karma/
http://donovanphillips.com/free/candy/
http://donovanphillips.com/free/samples1/
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