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|  09-22-2009, 07:56 AM | #1 | 
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				2012 - The End of Days?
			 I'm designing a site for a Cancun-Mayan culture site and I was just reading about the Mayan numerals and calendar when I came across this. Pretty interesting in my opinion. http://www.2012doomsdays.com/whatisdoomsday2012.htm The ancient Mayans left codes that clearly suggest something cataclysmic and apocalyptic is at hand when their calendar ends. The date of this "end" is either December 21 or December 23, 2012 - depending on who you talk to. Most Mayan code analysts believe the date translates to December 21, 2012. According to the Maya code, there are 5 great cycles of time, of which 4 have already passed. Each cycle lasts 5,125 years, with a great destruction of the earth and every living creature happening at the end of them. Now, much of this information comes from how "experts" have translated the Mayan code, glyphs, and calendars. Author Michael Coe, publisher of "The Maya" in 1966, was the first to report on the date December 21, 2012. In his book, he suggests that the code foretells the total destruction of the earth and mankind (the universe) when the present great cycle reaches the end of this thirteenth Baktun. What is known is we now live in (near the end) of the fifth great cycle - the one in which the Mayan lived, only 500 to 4500 years ago. This cycle began in the year 3114 BC, and ends on December, 2012. The driving force behind the doomsday "prophecy" is the Mayan Long Count Calendar. Having use three significant calendars, the Long Count Calendar is an extension of the 52-year Calendar Round. The problem is there isn't enough information to scientifically compliment the belief that something bad is going to happen when this great cycle ends. But, as the Mayans were the astute astronomers of the day, there is plenty of accuracy in their astronomical predictions. For example, the earth will line up with the galactic plane on December 21, 2012 - something proven even today. This even happens once every 26,000 years. But, other things are predicted (by doomsdayers) to happen along that day. Threats such as Planet X (also known as "Nibiru") entering our solar system, timewave zero, asteroid strikes, solar flares, and a devastating polar shift are all plausible methods for bringing in Armageddon. Many books have been written on the subject 2012. And the 2012 movie that is scheduled for release in November 2009 will like fuel interest in doomsday 2012. One of the best books is 2012: Surviving the Mayan Calendar, which can be found on this website. On the more safer contrary, a New Age following has emerged, suggesting mankind will have a choice of entering a time of peace and understanding. More of an astrological point of view, this spiritual understanding will supposedly entail a new era of positive living. This global consciousness shift, supported by New Age beliefs that have re-explained Mayan civilization and even confused modern humanity, is called Mayanism. Academic professionals who have studied the Mayan culture beg to differ when it comes to earth's destruction by some heavenly force in December 2012. A simple explanation of "resetting" the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0, the beginning date of a new great cycle, is their belief. Whether you believe something will happen on December 21, 2012 or not, it's probably prudent to become more educated on the subject. The Mayan were very aware of lunar, solar and galactic cycles and relied upon the sun God for continued survival. Much of their culture was destroyed by the Spanish during the Inquisition. But what wasn't destroyed foretold astronomical events that will scientifically occur. | 
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|  09-22-2009, 07:58 AM | #2 | 
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				 | it is end of time ;) not days 
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|  09-22-2009, 07:58 AM | #3 | 
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				 | if there is one thing that is for sure, a bunch of wild tribals have no idea when the world will end. 
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|  09-22-2009, 07:59 AM | #4 | 
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|  09-22-2009, 08:00 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Welcome... What rock have you been hiding under? I was pretty sure all this has been public knowledge for that last few years and the topic of many shows and threads.   
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|  09-22-2009, 08:04 AM | #6 | 
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				 | Man I hope not I'm still recovering from that millennium end-of-the-world in 2000. 
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|  09-22-2009, 08:15 AM | #7 | 
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				 | hopefully | 
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|  09-22-2009, 08:17 AM | #8 | 
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				 | Do they know the hour and the day exactly when that "unique" event will happen? At least the y2k people knew the exact time the world would end. Now they don't give us hour nor day... I guess the predictions are getting more vague. Next one will be "The world will come to an end... some day of these... run for the hills!" 
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|  09-22-2009, 08:34 AM | #9 | 
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				 | I have spent 100's of hours working on this my self and have come up with 12-12-12 | 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:00 AM | #11 | 
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				 | they didnt have a descent alphabet and you believe them? 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:03 AM | #12 | 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:04 AM | #13 | 
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				 | Personally, I think the Maya would have updated their calendar as they approached the end of the cycle. But it seems unfortunately that they deforested too much land in favor of crops, then experienced a great dust bowl and couldnt survive. Or whatever the theory of the day is about their end. 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:05 AM | #14 | 
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				 | They didn't know that our Universe is ~13.7 Billion years old, so why should they be able to know when everything ends? | 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:09 AM | #15 | 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:13 AM | #16 | 
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				 | good read 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:16 AM | #17 | 
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				 | Festinger strikes back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails | 
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|  09-22-2009, 09:18 AM | #18 | 
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				 | We can only hope so ... 
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|  09-22-2009, 10:34 AM | #19 | 
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				 | Interesting literature for sure. But like the Bible, there's much between the lines. I don't think the planet will be destroyed but it's not unthinkable there could be a "reboot" in society/civilization and where the over greedy will draw the short end. At least that was in the version I read that I bought in Mexico in a bookshop near the chitzen itza. | 
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|  09-22-2009, 11:05 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Its just a astrological end of the world, transit from one era in another, they predict bad era will finish ( might be think of this economic crises now ) and new better era will start.However lot of people read this thing different more dramatically.Plus Moon,Sun and Earth will be in the same line thats why they think maybe will be end of the world.For me as a read and understand everything is just symbolic no real end | 
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|  09-22-2009, 11:25 AM | #22 | 
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				 | 100% fake. | 
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|  09-22-2009, 11:37 AM | #23 | 
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|  09-22-2009, 11:41 AM | #24 | 
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				 | We will know soon for sure  
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|  09-22-2009, 01:00 PM | #25 | 
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				 | Stop worrying everyone.  The Institute for Human Continuity will save some lucky people who will then get to live past 2012.   http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/ See you on board! 
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|  09-22-2009, 01:33 PM | #26 | 
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				 | It has definately made me look int it, although a lot of movies comming out now are about worlds end. | 
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|  09-22-2009, 01:45 PM | #29 | 
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				 | It's all clever marketing for the 2012 movie. | 
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 They were very accurate in their measurments of the Earth's cycles around the sun. That's why it's interesting to note, there are not to my knowledge any clear cut predictions regarding 2012. Their calendar simply ends. Imagine if you will a nuclear war were to break out suddenly at the end of this year, and wipe all the species off this earth. If intelligent life were to again evolve on Earth, or find Earth from somewhere else and find a fossilised 2009 calendar, they might also assume that Homo Sapiens were accurately able to predict their own demise!  
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|  09-22-2009, 03:10 PM | #32 | 
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				 | hope so... | 
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|  09-22-2009, 03:15 PM | #33 | 
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				 | Yep its going to end, just like y2k made all the computers crash and set off all the world's nuclear weapons. | 
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  They were obsessed with time and like you said, it is very interesting to see the knowledge they possessed during such a primitive (for lack of a better term) state of mankind. The history channel did a great documentary on it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WLx5ftYHJ0c (of course they had to play up the whole "doomsday" thing but still a good watch)! | |
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|  09-22-2009, 03:58 PM | #35 | 
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				 | Yeah, right, they were able to predict this thousands of years in advance but didn't bother to tell us how it was going to happen.... 
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|  09-22-2009, 04:04 PM | #36 | 
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				 | I guess we will find out 
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				 | Major shifts in the Earth's current vibrations coming January 2011. Vibration is the key to the Universe. 
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|  09-22-2009, 04:10 PM | #38 | 
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				 | I agree with you. It's interesting to read though. 
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|  09-22-2009, 04:26 PM | #39 | 
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				 | The Mayans believed in offering human sacrifices to the sun and moon gods, and they believed that their gods had created and destroyed the world several times over.  Nuff said. 
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				 | My calendar only goes to 2009, I'm very scared. | 
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|  09-22-2009, 05:14 PM | #41 | 
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				 | is till want to see the movie, i want to observe how the world end | 
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				 | "Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this Bullshit three ring circus sideshow." -Tool Duke 
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|  09-22-2009, 06:20 PM | #43 | 
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				 | That's the only part I agree about.  They were extremely intelligent mathematicians and astronomers. Physics that could predict the end of the world?  No. 
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|  09-22-2009, 06:31 PM | #45 | 
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				 | The reptilians that control the federal reserve will put earth in a FEMA camp in 2012. | 
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				 | Working on it... but very over worked these days... It's just me now.. wanna help? 
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				 | Any fuckin time, any fuckin day...   Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Fret for your figure and Fret for your latte and Fret for your hairpiece and Fret for your lawsuit and Fret for your prozac and Fret for your pilot and Fret for your contract and Fret for your car. It's a Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves. Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits. Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will cuz I sure could use a vacation from this Silly shit, stupid shit... One great big festering neon distraction, I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim. Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones. Fuck all those gun-toting Hip gangster wannabes. Learn to swim. Fuck retro anything. Fuck your tattoos. Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory. Learn to swim. Fuck smiley glad-hands With hidden agendas. Fuck these dysfunctional, Insecure actresses. Learn to swim. Cuz I'm praying for rain And I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down. 
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|  09-22-2009, 11:56 PM | #49 | 
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				 | They did not write anything about the end of the world it is the end of the last cycle of their calendar and the start of a new baktun, the 14th. I recommend reading and listening to some REAL research and not History channel sensationalism bullshit. Swedish researcher Carl Johan Calleman is a good start and here is a recent clip he made on youtube: | 
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				 | another y2k | 
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