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Old 09-02-2009, 04:17 PM   #1
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What would you do if a stranger slapped your 2 year old girl for crying in public?

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A Georgia man allegedly slapped a toddler at a Walmart store because she wouldn't stop crying, authorities said.

Roger Stephens, 61, was arrested Monday and charged with first-degree cruelty to children. An incident report obtained from police in Gwinnett County indicates indicated Stephens did not know the 2-year-old girl he stands accused of hitting.

The confrontation happened shortly before noon at the Walmart in Stone Mountain, a suburb of Atlanta.

According to the arresting officer, the child's mother of the girl said her daughter was crying as they walked down one of the aisles.

The mother said a stranger later identified as Stephens approached them and said, "If you don't shut the baby up, I will shut her up for you."

A few moments later, while the mother and the crying child were in another aisle, Stephens allegedly grabbed the girl and slapped her across the face.

Police said he hit her four or five times. "See, I told you I would shut her up," the suspect allegedly told the mother.
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My kid wouldn't be crying and screaming in the middle of walmart in the first place.
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oh hell no! I would kick the shit out of that guy. I know crying kids are annoying but you dont touch someone else's child EVER.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:21 PM   #5
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Agreed. I would be spanking my kids ass before a stranger could get to him/her.

That parent was probably outraged. Personally, im outraged when having to listen to screaming brat kids in a public place.

I do have to admit - slapping a kid 4 times is a bit .. excessive tho lol

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Old 09-02-2009, 04:22 PM   #6
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Cue all the idiots who think they were bitten by a radio active spider but in reality would just end up getting slapped around themselves.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:25 PM   #8
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i have fantasies about taking that kid behind you on the plane that screams for hours on end, and just flushing him/her down the airplane toliet.

but yes, that is retarded. it's also walmart.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:26 PM   #9
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Cue all the idiots who think they were bitten by a radio active spider but in reality would just end up getting slapped around themselves.


probably about right for most

but holy fuck...you could get away with a beat down on him...as long as he was awake and not too messed up...a few good beats would be overlooked by the police when they showed up
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probably about right for most

but holy fuck...you could get away with a beat down on him...as long as he was awake and not too messed up...a few good beats would be overlooked by the police when they showed up
Sure but someone like Belinda who thinks she's Super Woman all of a sudden would just get beaten up. Same with that Euro Dork notime or whatever his fucking handle is.
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I think the larger crime here is that they are wasting the time and resources to prosecute a man for slapping a child.
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have you been to a walmart?

there's more kids crying at the top of their lungs than there are markdowns
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Agreed. I would be spanking my kids ass before a stranger could get to him/her.

That parent was probably outraged. Personally, im outraged when having to listen to screaming brat kids in a public place.

I do have to admit - slapping a kid 4 times is a bit .. excessive tho lol

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I think most parents, especially men, would punch the guy. It's pretty much instinct when someone is attacking your child.
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Well, a two year getting slap is a bit over board. I would have taken the guy down using my grappling/wrestling/BJJ skills until the cops got there. I don't think I would have hit him back since it is not in my nature to hurt someone unless my life was threaten.
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Well, a two year getting slap is a bit over board. I would have taken the guy down using my grappling/wrestling/BJJ skills until the cops got there. I don't think I would have hit him back since it is not in my nature to hurt someone unless my life was threaten.
You would have wrestled a guy to the ground and held him there until the cops arrived.

And slapping the child is overboard?
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I think most parents, especially men, would punch the guy. It's pretty much instinct when someone is attacking your child.

They would need dental records to identify the body. Nothing more needs to be said.
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Well, a two year getting slap is a bit over board. I would have taken the guy down using my grappling/wrestling/BJJ skills until the cops got there. I don't think I would have hit him back since it is not in my nature to hurt someone unless my life was threaten.
i've been around martial arts most of my life. i've owned schools. i've seen 1000s of people train. i can tell just from your attitude and personality that you are a huge pussy. you are one of those fantasy world, kung fu goof balls that thinks he can catch bullets with his teeth just because he showed up to someones retarded fantasy camp, strip mall class twice a week for 4 months. i'm sure you have all your t-shirts with your schools logos on them that you want people to notice you wearing. you probably even have some retarded asian tattoos like kanji symbols for peace or strength or whatever the fuck.

one thing i've learned from many years of traditional karate is that only a very tiny % of people can actually man up and fight when it comes down to it... no matter how much training they have in a controlled environment with little chance of injury or without fighting someone that is legitimately trying to take their head off or die.

you're not one of them.
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I think most parents, especially men, would punch the guy. It's pretty much instinct when someone is attacking your child.
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Sure but someone like Belinda who thinks she's Super Woman all of a sudden would just get beaten up. Same with that Euro Dork notime or whatever his fucking handle is.
True that man, 95% of the fucking pussies on this forum would get their asses handed to them
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i've been around martial arts most of my life. i've owned schools. i've seen 1000s of people train. i can tell just from your attitude and personality that you are a huge pussy. you are one of those fantasy world, kung fu goof balls that thinks he can catch bullets with his teeth just because he showed up to someones retarded fantasy camp, strip mall class twice a week for 4 months. i'm sure you have all your t-shirts with your schools logos on them that you want people to notice you wearing. you probably even have some retarded asian tattoos like kanji symbols for peace or strength or whatever the fuck.

one thing i've learned from many years of traditional karate is that only a very tiny % of people can actually man up and fight when it comes down to it... no matter how much training they have in a controlled environment with little chance of injury or without fighting someone that is legitimately trying to take their head off or die.

you're not one of them.
I couldn't agree more with this

Personally, I'll take years of drunken bar fighting and street fighting over someone who's been to a few BJJ classes
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I'm far from a karate expert and maybe that 61 year old sonofabitch would "beat me up" in the end just like WarChild says...

But I'd get in a good nut-kick first and that's a fact.
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Yesterday on the train there was a crying kid in the seat up front. I made funny faces at her and she stopped crying and started giggling.

That old dude was probably an idiot or begginning senility
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Oh man, that asshole wouldnt be walking out of that store. More like on a stretcher.

Im not even the violent type either.
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i've been around martial arts most of my life. i've owned schools. i've seen 1000s of people train. i can tell just from your attitude and personality that you are a huge pussy. you are one of those fantasy world, kung fu goof balls that thinks he can catch bullets with his teeth just because he showed up to someones retarded fantasy camp, strip mall class twice a week for 4 months. i'm sure you have all your t-shirts with your schools logos on them that you want people to notice you wearing. you probably even have some retarded asian tattoos like kanji symbols for peace or strength or whatever the fuck.

one thing i've learned from many years of traditional karate is that only a very tiny % of people can actually man up and fight when it comes down to it... no matter how much training they have in a controlled environment with little chance of injury or without fighting someone that is legitimately trying to take their head off or die.

you're not one of them.
While what you say is absolutely true for most if not all traditional martial arts it's generally not the same for arts that are trained "live". You'll have a hard time getting a fight out of any karate gym, but walk in to a boxxing gym and try the same stuff and you'll probably leave black and blue.
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I couldn't agree more with this

Personally, I'll take years of drunken bar fighting and street fighting over someone who's been to a few BJJ classes
I'd put money on any guy ranked blue belt or higher versus a drunken bar fighter any day of the week. Despite what most people think, anger, jealousy, rage and booze do not make you a better fighter.
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I was going to say the same thing. Absolutely no one has the right to lay a hand on someone's child like that.
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I'd put money on any guy ranked blue belt or higher versus a drunken bar fighter any day of the week. Despite what most people think, anger, jealousy, rage and booze do not make you a better fighter.
True, but I'd say continually saving Fuzebox from Colombians does
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While what you say is absolutely true for most if not all traditional martial arts it's generally not the same for arts that are trained "live". You'll have a hard time getting a fight out of any karate gym, but walk in to a boxxing gym and try the same stuff and you'll probably leave black and blue.
i just said this to someone on iCQ...

this is absolutely true. i started training very hard. 3-4hrs a day, 5-6 days a week in Go Ju Ryu. i wanted to be Bruce Lee. i wanted to have the fastest guys come up to me and throw everything they had and be able to block it.... just like in a movie.

i got to that point. in fact, my biggest problem became that i was too comfortable with defense (which obviously won't win a fight)

the whole time i felt weird.

like something was wrong.

i became increasingly aware that someone was very wrong. felt wrong. i couldn't put my finger on it.

i was sparring with my friend who was a second degree black belt and won countless tournaments at full speed and power and he was coming at me with everything and i was calmly blocking everything he had with soft deflections (hence the "hard/soft" = "go/ju")

i realized at that moment that the reason i was calmly deflecting everything was that i had no real fear that he was going to actually connect and knock me out.

i realized at that moment what a huge, false sense of security i had and began to understand that it wasn't just kung fu and all the goofy shit that was mostly fake... but that as you said... anything that doesn't train with live full speed and full contact is basically fake.


thats why i got away from Shotokan and Go Ju and got into boxing and kick boxing. you know where you stand. you fuck up... you get stung hard. you get knocked out. you get used to hitting and getting hit. you get used to people jumping right up in your face and trying to knock you out. you don't get that with any other martial arts.

... and this guy above... who's going to use his "wrestling" because he doesn't believe in fighting.. uhm... yeah. seen many of those come and go. they are always the first pussies to quietly sulk out of the gym when things get real and someone actually hits them or when things don't go according to plan as happens with actual fights.

i'm always amazed that idiots can train to fight.. but then never fight or claim to be against fighting. or better yet go the kung fu route and start talking about how their techniques are just too dangerous for tournaments or whatever.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:22 PM   #42
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The guy would be leaving wal mart in a ambulance, not a police car.

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Cue all the idiots who think they were bitten by a radio active spider but in reality would just end up getting slapped around themselves.
I suppose I could end up getting slapped around, but I'll take my chances... radio active spider bite or not


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I think the larger crime here is that they are wasting the time and resources to prosecute a man for slapping a child.
So its OK for a grown man to slap a 2 yr old child that is not his child? Hmmm... so is it also OK to slap some cripple in a wheel chair for taking up extra room in a isle at wal mart?
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:23 PM   #43
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even worse is women in martial arts. only a very small % of men can actually man up and trade blows when its real. whatever that number is... women would only be a tiny % of those. but everyone wants to think they're Bruce Leroy when walking down a dark alley. i hate the fact that women take martial arts classes... not because of the .05% that can actually excel.. but because of the 99.95% that are just deluding themselves and building a false sense of security as they pretend the laws of physics no longer apply because they listened to some friendless jackoff teach Rex Kwon Do for 45 minutes a week.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:23 PM   #44
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:24 PM   #45
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The guy would be leaving wal mart in a ambulance, not a police car.



I suppose I could end up getting slapped around, but I'll take my chances... radio active spider bite or not




So its OK for a grown man to slap a 2 yr old child that is not his child? Hmmm... so is it also OK to slap some cripple in a wheel chair for taking up extra room in a isle at wal mart?
LOL, I don't recall saying that at all.

However, if you ask a cripple in a wheelchair that is taking up too much space to politely scoot over and they refuse... flip the fucker over.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:26 PM   #46
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However, if you ask a cripple in a wheelchair that is taking up too much space to politely scoot over and they refuse... flip the fucker over.


Ya got me on that one
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:27 PM   #47
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Ask him if he could babysit my other kids.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:31 PM   #48
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I hate people who take their screaming kids anywhere. Be a parent and learn to control your kid. If it won't do anything but scream when you take it out of the house. Leave it the fuck at home. That's why kids have 2 parents.

When my kids were small, we didn't go to movies with them, didn't go out to eat with them and if they were fussy, only one of us went to the store. Why people feel it's their right to force strangers to listen to their little brats have tantrums is beyond me. If I go out to dinner, I want to enjoy myself, not listen to your kid scream the whole time.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:31 PM   #49
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LOL, I don't recall saying that at all.

However, if you ask a cripple in a wheelchair that is taking up too much space to politely scoot over and they refuse... flip the fucker over.
those damn cripples are always getting in the way!
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:32 PM   #50
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Seems to me that the average parent with a 2 year old is going to be more physically fit and definitely faster than the average 61 year old man.

Now it's possible that Gramps up there is in better shape than he looks, but I don't see stepping up to this asshole in a grocery store as being a particularly dangerous thing to do.
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