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Old 09-02-2009, 05:18 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by WarChild View Post
While what you say is absolutely true for most if not all traditional martial arts it's generally not the same for arts that are trained "live". You'll have a hard time getting a fight out of any karate gym, but walk in to a boxxing gym and try the same stuff and you'll probably leave black and blue.
i just said this to someone on iCQ...

this is absolutely true. i started training very hard. 3-4hrs a day, 5-6 days a week in Go Ju Ryu. i wanted to be Bruce Lee. i wanted to have the fastest guys come up to me and throw everything they had and be able to block it.... just like in a movie.

i got to that point. in fact, my biggest problem became that i was too comfortable with defense (which obviously won't win a fight)

the whole time i felt weird.

like something was wrong.

i became increasingly aware that someone was very wrong. felt wrong. i couldn't put my finger on it.

i was sparring with my friend who was a second degree black belt and won countless tournaments at full speed and power and he was coming at me with everything and i was calmly blocking everything he had with soft deflections (hence the "hard/soft" = "go/ju")

i realized at that moment that the reason i was calmly deflecting everything was that i had no real fear that he was going to actually connect and knock me out.

i realized at that moment what a huge, false sense of security i had and began to understand that it wasn't just kung fu and all the goofy shit that was mostly fake... but that as you said... anything that doesn't train with live full speed and full contact is basically fake.


thats why i got away from Shotokan and Go Ju and got into boxing and kick boxing. you know where you stand. you fuck up... you get stung hard. you get knocked out. you get used to hitting and getting hit. you get used to people jumping right up in your face and trying to knock you out. you don't get that with any other martial arts.

... and this guy above... who's going to use his "wrestling" because he doesn't believe in fighting.. uhm... yeah. seen many of those come and go. they are always the first pussies to quietly sulk out of the gym when things get real and someone actually hits them or when things don't go according to plan as happens with actual fights.

i'm always amazed that idiots can train to fight.. but then never fight or claim to be against fighting. or better yet go the kung fu route and start talking about how their techniques are just too dangerous for tournaments or whatever.
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