If PR matters.... - GoFuckYourself.com

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 05:28 PM

www.pornhub.com is #1 in google for "porn" and PR0.. I don't understand, if PR is important.. then why is a PR0 #1 ? ?

SmokeyTheBear · 08-30-2009, 05:30 PM

its actually a pr5

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

its actually a pr5

Ah,
I see..
http://www.smartpagerank.com/result....ww.pornhub.com
This fucking thing must be broken.
I notice that it doesn't show reports from a pile of data centers like it use to

I was thinking that maybe it was because of the sesining or seasoning ... being so old and all

Adult sites just don't go above PR5 except for extreme exceptions, right?

Basic_man · 08-30-2009, 05:33 PM

Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!

gwidomains · 08-30-2009, 05:51 PM

smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

PornMD · 08-30-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basic_man

Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!

What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.

Jdoughs · 08-30-2009, 05:53 PM

Try google toolbar, I think they get it from the source

Jdoughs · 08-30-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD

What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.

Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.

PornMD · 08-30-2009, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.

But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know what they're doing is considered black hat? I mean it seems to me if they've been #1 on Google for so long, Google doesn't see anything wrong with whatever "black hat" stuff they're doing, and black hat SEO methods would generally mean something that Google would not be happy about.

Jdoughs · 08-30-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD

But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?

I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore.

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:02 PM

All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:08 PM

All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???
This one at least says it's a PR3

http://oyoy.eu/google/pr/?url=http%3...r-tool.html&#r

DC: 64.233.161.18
Marlfield-Farm
PR: 3
0
DC: 64.233.167.184
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
53
DC: 364.233.169.133
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
1
DC: 64.233.161.184
(no name yet)
PR: 3
23
DC: 64.233.163.189
(no name yet)
PR: 3
37
DC: 64.233.171.18
white-snow
PR: ? (Retry)
54
DC: 64.233.179.19
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
73
DC: 64.233.183.17
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
90
Working ...

108
DC: 64.233.187.19
Xanadu
PR: ? (Retry)
124
Working ...

139
DC: 66.102.1.44
(no name yet)
PR: 3
149
DC: 66.102.7.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
161
DC: 66.102.9.18
(no name yet)
PR: 3
181
DC: 66.102.11.99
(no name yet)
PR: 3
196
DC: 66.249.81.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
202
DC: 66.249.83.19
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
219
Working ...

234
DC: 66.249.89.19
Mikey
PR: 3
246
DC: 66.249.91.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
258

Jdoughs · 08-30-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD

But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?

I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore.

Pleasurepays · 08-30-2009, 06:09 PM

they've been a pr5 for a long time now.

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:09 PM

Here's one!!
http://www.seocentro.com/tools/searc...gerank-dc.html

Jdoughs · 08-30-2009, 06:10 PM

Mr Maxwell, download the google toolbar. Install if on a browser you dont use often, or right on your main one, either way, it will give you current rank.

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:10 PM

Pagerank Results for: http://pornhub.com
# Data Center Pagerank
1 209.85.225.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
2 209.85.229.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
3 64.233.161.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
4 64.233.161.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
5 64.233.169.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
6 64.233.169.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
7 66.102.1.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
8 66.102.1.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
9 66.102.1.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
10 66.102.9.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
11 72.14.203.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
12 72.14.213.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
13 74.125.113.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
14 74.125.153.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
15 74.125.155.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
16 74.125.157.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
17 74.125.159.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
18 74.125.159.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
19 74.125.159.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
20 74.125.19.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
21 74.125.19.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
22 74.125.47.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
23 74.125.53.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
24 74.125.65.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
25 74.125.67.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
26 74.125.67.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
27 74.125.79.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
28 74.125.87.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
29 74.125.91.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
30 74.125.93.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]

How come all of the other ones called it PR0 and some call it a PR3?

Are there rogue datacenters fucking off lying to us, or what?

dav3 · 08-30-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

shows pr5 for me, using the SearchStatus FF plugin.

sicone · 08-30-2009, 06:15 PM

Google toolbar has it at 5...

http://www.domainpagerank.com/ says...

Results:
Google PageRank for pornhub.com
0

PageRank validation for pornhub.com
http://www.pornhub.com: 302
http://pornhub.com: 302
This site's PageRank may be fake.

Agent 488 · 08-30-2009, 06:17 PM

http://tools.google.com/firefox/tool.../en/index.html

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:22 PM

I got the google toolbar and I hate it and it wants to phone home..
This would be fucking perfect if it worked with newer firefox.. anyone know if anyone made anything similar? With the PR in the bottom right of the status bar?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2007

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:28 PM

Here we go.. this is it
Look at this, it's great http://pizzaseo.com/firefox-pagerank
Is this what you were talking about, dave?

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 06:29 PM

Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

baddog · 08-30-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

Frequently.

PR_Sebas · 08-30-2009, 07:41 PM

Just did a quick one of these..

link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.

charlie3273 · 08-30-2009, 07:45 PM

Why are you making a fuss dont you look at alexa website they got like 1,300 back links and redtube has over 3,000 backlinks . They maybe also doing something shady as well but that should do em for a pr5 and porn hub is like 8-9 years old.

Agent 488 · 08-30-2009, 07:48 PM

yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NwSebas

Just did a quick one of these..

link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.

MrMaxwell · 08-30-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Frequently.

Hell

d-null · 08-30-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.

they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

Jdoughs · 08-31-2009, 01:41 AM

Unfortunately she's an old fashion girl that google, she needs to see some love before she fucks you.

Denny · 08-31-2009, 01:47 AM

it has a PR5 for a long time... check Google toolbar.

Oracle Porn · 08-31-2009, 02:05 AM

the stupidity in this thread is unbelievable.

anything not "organic" by google's terms is blackhat....

bdld · 08-31-2009, 04:35 AM

age, backlinks, frequency of updates, unfortunately they deserve it.

pornguy · 08-31-2009, 04:46 AM

I see it as a 5 as welll.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-31-2009, 04:55 AM

www.bigtits.com is PR7 but nowhere in google

go figure.

that "seo guru" who was doing the optimization for them, fucked it up royally

Pleasurepays · 08-31-2009, 06:39 AM

this thread is a prime example of how dumb this industry is.

They've been a pr5 for a long time. PR matters a lot. people misunderstand completely WHY it matters. their sites do well because someone is out there hustling back links day in and day out. he does it on forums, he does it by icq, he's relentless and he doesn't stop. buying links, trading links well etc. thats why a few tube sites are on top for almost every relevant phrase (keez, pornhub, tube8 et al). same people. same guy. same tactics. there is nothing "black hat" about it. very simple methods exercised with fanatical consistency over a period of time.

in the meantime, in 2009 ... 98% of this industry is totally baffled by SEO 101.

what a fucking joke.

Agent 488 · 08-31-2009, 06:44 AM

there is no such thing as "irrelevant backlinks."

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null

they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

wizzart · 08-31-2009, 06:44 AM

Everything about SEO:

number of one way links

Lace · 08-31-2009, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwidomains

smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

SearchStatus add-on for firefox

Agent 488 · 08-31-2009, 06:57 AM

considering the success of their link building campaign do you really think google considers those links "irrelevant?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null

they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-31-2009, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

keez, pornhub, tube8 et al

all these sites belong to the same owner?

08-30-2009, 05:30 PM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	its actually a pr5 __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

08-30-2009, 05:33 PM	#4
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them! __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

08-30-2009, 05:53 PM	#7
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08-30-2009, 06:10 PM	#16
Jdoughs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 5,794	Mr Maxwell, download the google toolbar. Install if on a browser you dont use often, or right on your main one, either way, it will give you current rank. __________________ LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250 Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month. AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!

08-30-2009, 06:15 PM	#19
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	Google toolbar has it at 5... http://www.domainpagerank.com/ says... Results: Google PageRank for pornhub.com 0 PageRank validation for pornhub.com http://www.pornhub.com: 302 http://pornhub.com: 302 This site's PageRank may be fake. __________________

08-30-2009, 05:28 PM	#1
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	If PR matters.... www.pornhub.com is #1 in google for "porn" and PR0.. I don't understand, if PR is important.. then why is a PR0 #1 ? ?

08-30-2009, 05:51 PM	#5
gwidomains Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 426	smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

08-30-2009, 06:02 PM	#11
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0 Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

08-30-2009, 06:08 PM	#12
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0 Where can I find a good pagerank checker??? This one at least says it's a PR3 http://oyoy.eu/google/pr/?url=http%3...r-tool.html&#r DC: 64.233.161.18 Marlfield-Farm PR: 3 0 DC: 64.233.167.184 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 53 DC: 364.233.169.133 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 1 DC: 64.233.161.184 (no name yet) PR: 3 23 DC: 64.233.163.189 (no name yet) PR: 3 37 DC: 64.233.171.18 white-snow PR: ? (Retry) 54 DC: 64.233.179.19 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 73 DC: 64.233.183.17 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 90 Working ... 108 DC: 64.233.187.19 Xanadu PR: ? (Retry) 124 Working ... 139 DC: 66.102.1.44 (no name yet) PR: 3 149 DC: 66.102.7.18 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 161 DC: 66.102.9.18 (no name yet) PR: 3 181 DC: 66.102.11.99 (no name yet) PR: 3 196 DC: 66.249.81.18 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 202 DC: 66.249.83.19 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 219 Working ... 234 DC: 66.249.89.19 Mikey PR: 3 246 DC: 66.249.91.18 (no name yet) PR: ? (Retry) 258

08-30-2009, 06:09 PM	#14
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	they've been a pr5 for a long time now.

08-30-2009, 06:17 PM	#20
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	http://tools.google.com/firefox/tool.../en/index.html

08-30-2009, 06:22 PM	#21
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	I got the google toolbar and I hate it and it wants to phone home.. This would be fucking perfect if it worked with newer firefox.. anyone know if anyone made anything similar? With the PR in the bottom right of the status bar? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2007

08-30-2009, 06:28 PM	#22
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	Here we go.. this is it Look at this, it's great http://pizzaseo.com/firefox-pagerank Is this what you were talking about, dave?

08-30-2009, 06:29 PM	#23
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

08-30-2009, 07:41 PM	#25
PR_Sebas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,825	Just did a quick one of these.. link:http://www dot pornhub dot com They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either. __________________ Last edited by PR_Sebas; 08-30-2009 at 07:42 PM..

08-30-2009, 07:45 PM	#26
charlie3273 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: reno,nv sometimes Posts: 376	Why are you making a fuss dont you look at alexa website they got like 1,300 back links and redtube has over 3,000 backlinks . They maybe also doing something shady as well but that should do em for a pr5 and porn hub is like 8-9 years old. __________________ Super Slutty That is my website of many I have.

08-31-2009, 01:41 AM	#30
Jdoughs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 5,794	Unfortunately she's an old fashion girl that google, she needs to see some love before she fucks you. __________________ LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250 Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month. AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!

08-31-2009, 01:47 AM	#31
Denny Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17,289	it has a PR5 for a long time... check Google toolbar. __________________

08-31-2009, 02:05 AM	#32
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	the stupidity in this thread is unbelievable. anything not "organic" by google's terms is blackhat.... __________________

08-31-2009, 04:35 AM	#33
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	age, backlinks, frequency of updates, unfortunately they deserve it.

08-31-2009, 04:46 AM	#34
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I see it as a 5 as welll. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

08-31-2009, 04:55 AM	#35
Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 7,515	www.bigtits.com is PR7 but nowhere in google go figure. that "seo guru" who was doing the optimization for them, fucked it up royally

08-31-2009, 06:39 AM	#36
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	this thread is a prime example of how dumb this industry is. They've been a pr5 for a long time. PR matters a lot. people misunderstand completely WHY it matters. their sites do well because someone is out there hustling back links day in and day out. he does it on forums, he does it by icq, he's relentless and he doesn't stop. buying links, trading links well etc. thats why a few tube sites are on top for almost every relevant phrase (keez, pornhub, tube8 et al). same people. same guy. same tactics. there is nothing "black hat" about it. very simple methods exercised with fanatical consistency over a period of time. in the meantime, in 2009 ... 98% of this industry is totally baffled by SEO 101. what a fucking joke.

08-31-2009, 06:44 AM	#38
wizzart scriptmaster Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Serbia Posts: 5,237	Everything about SEO: number of one way links