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MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 05:28 PM

If PR matters....
 
www.pornhub.com is #1 in google for "porn" and PR0.. I don't understand, if PR is important.. then why is a PR0 #1 ? ?

SmokeyTheBear 08-30-2009 05:30 PM

its actually a pr5

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16255626)
its actually a pr5

Ah,
I see..
http://www.smartpagerank.com/result....ww.pornhub.com
This fucking thing must be broken.
I notice that it doesn't show reports from a pile of data centers like it use to

I was thinking that maybe it was because of the sesining or seasoning ... being so old and all

Adult sites just don't go above PR5 except for extreme exceptions, right?

Basic_man 08-30-2009 05:33 PM

Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!

gwidomains 08-30-2009 05:51 PM

smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

PornMD 08-30-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basic_man (Post 16255629)
Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!

What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.

Jdoughs 08-30-2009 05:53 PM

Try google toolbar, I think they get it from the source :)

Jdoughs 08-30-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16255664)
What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.

Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.

PornMD 08-30-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16255668)
Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.

But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know what they're doing is considered black hat? I mean it seems to me if they've been #1 on Google for so long, Google doesn't see anything wrong with whatever "black hat" stuff they're doing, and black hat SEO methods would generally mean something that Google would not be happy about.

Jdoughs 08-30-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16255674)
But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?

I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore.

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:02 PM

All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:08 PM

All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???
This one at least says it's a PR3

http://oyoy.eu/google/pr/?url=http%3...r-tool.html&#r

DC: 64.233.161.18
Marlfield-Farm
PR: 3
0
DC: 64.233.167.184
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
53
DC: 364.233.169.133
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
1
DC: 64.233.161.184
(no name yet)
PR: 3
23
DC: 64.233.163.189
(no name yet)
PR: 3
37
DC: 64.233.171.18
white-snow
PR: ? (Retry)
54
DC: 64.233.179.19
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
73
DC: 64.233.183.17
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
90
Working ...

108
DC: 64.233.187.19
Xanadu
PR: ? (Retry)
124
Working ...

139
DC: 66.102.1.44
(no name yet)
PR: 3
149
DC: 66.102.7.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
161
DC: 66.102.9.18
(no name yet)
PR: 3
181
DC: 66.102.11.99
(no name yet)
PR: 3
196
DC: 66.249.81.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
202
DC: 66.249.83.19
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
219
Working ...

234
DC: 66.249.89.19
Mikey
PR: 3
246
DC: 66.249.91.18
(no name yet)
PR: ? (Retry)
258

Jdoughs 08-30-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16255674)
But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?

I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore. :upsidedow

Pleasurepays 08-30-2009 06:09 PM

they've been a pr5 for a long time now.

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:09 PM

Here's one!!
http://www.seocentro.com/tools/searc...gerank-dc.html

Jdoughs 08-30-2009 06:10 PM

Mr Maxwell, download the google toolbar. Install if on a browser you dont use often, or right on your main one, either way, it will give you current rank.

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:10 PM

Pagerank Results for: http://pornhub.com
# Data Center Pagerank
1 209.85.225.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
2 209.85.229.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
3 64.233.161.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
4 64.233.161.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
5 64.233.169.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
6 64.233.169.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
7 66.102.1.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
8 66.102.1.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
9 66.102.1.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
10 66.102.9.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
11 72.14.203.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
12 72.14.213.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
13 74.125.113.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
14 74.125.153.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
15 74.125.155.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
16 74.125.157.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
17 74.125.159.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
18 74.125.159.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
19 74.125.159.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
20 74.125.19.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
21 74.125.19.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
22 74.125.47.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
23 74.125.53.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
24 74.125.65.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
25 74.125.67.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
26 74.125.67.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
27 74.125.79.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
28 74.125.87.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
29 74.125.91.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
30 74.125.93.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]

How come all of the other ones called it PR0 and some call it a PR3?

Are there rogue datacenters fucking off lying to us, or what?

dav3 08-30-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 16255681)
All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

shows pr5 for me, using the SearchStatus FF plugin.

sicone 08-30-2009 06:15 PM

Google toolbar has it at 5...

http://www.domainpagerank.com/ says...

Results:
Google PageRank for pornhub.com
0

PageRank validation for pornhub.com
http://www.pornhub.com: 302
http://pornhub.com: 302
This site's PageRank may be fake.

Agent 488 08-30-2009 06:17 PM

http://tools.google.com/firefox/tool.../en/index.html

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:22 PM

I got the google toolbar and I hate it and it wants to phone home..
This would be fucking perfect if it worked with newer firefox.. anyone know if anyone made anything similar? With the PR in the bottom right of the status bar?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2007

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:28 PM

Here we go.. this is it
Look at this, it's great http://pizzaseo.com/firefox-pagerank
Is this what you were talking about, dave?

MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 06:29 PM

Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

baddog 08-30-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 16255739)
Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

Frequently.

PR_Sebas 08-30-2009 07:41 PM

Just did a quick one of these..

link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.

charlie3273 08-30-2009 07:45 PM

Why are you making a fuss dont you look at alexa website they got like 1,300 back links and redtube has over 3,000 backlinks . They maybe also doing something shady as well but that should do em for a pr5 and porn hub is like 8-9 years old.:2 cents:

Agent 488 08-30-2009 07:48 PM

yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NwSebas (Post 16255902)
Just did a quick one of these..

link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.


MrMaxwell 08-30-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16255847)
Frequently.

Hell
:Oh crap

d-null 08-30-2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16255918)
yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.

they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

Jdoughs 08-31-2009 01:41 AM

Unfortunately she's an old fashion girl that google, she needs to see some love before she fucks you.

Denny 08-31-2009 01:47 AM

it has a PR5 for a long time... check Google toolbar.

Oracle Porn 08-31-2009 02:05 AM

the stupidity in this thread is unbelievable.

anything not "organic" by google's terms is blackhat....

bdld 08-31-2009 04:35 AM

age, backlinks, frequency of updates, unfortunately they deserve it.

pornguy 08-31-2009 04:46 AM

I see it as a 5 as welll.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-31-2009 04:55 AM

www.bigtits.com is PR7 but nowhere in google

go figure.

that "seo guru" who was doing the optimization for them, fucked it up royally

Pleasurepays 08-31-2009 06:39 AM

this thread is a prime example of how dumb this industry is.

They've been a pr5 for a long time. PR matters a lot. people misunderstand completely WHY it matters. their sites do well because someone is out there hustling back links day in and day out. he does it on forums, he does it by icq, he's relentless and he doesn't stop. buying links, trading links well etc. thats why a few tube sites are on top for almost every relevant phrase (keez, pornhub, tube8 et al). same people. same guy. same tactics. there is nothing "black hat" about it. very simple methods exercised with fanatical consistency over a period of time.

in the meantime, in 2009 ... 98% of this industry is totally baffled by SEO 101.

what a fucking joke.

Agent 488 08-31-2009 06:44 AM

there is no such thing as "irrelevant backlinks."

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16256185)
they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)


wizzart 08-31-2009 06:44 AM

Everything about SEO:

number of one way links

Lace 08-31-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwidomains (Post 16255661)
smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

SearchStatus add-on for firefox :thumbsup

Agent 488 08-31-2009 06:57 AM

considering the success of their link building campaign do you really think google considers those links "irrelevant?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 16256185)
they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)


Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-31-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16257124)
keez, pornhub, tube8 et al

all these sites belong to the same owner?


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