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Old 08-28-2009, 05:16 PM   #1
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Vista Users / PC Crashing?

Hi guys,

Just wondering, is anyone else having problems with their system crashing after the latest rounds of windows updates?

I know, I know... should have gotten a mac
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:19 PM   #2
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I run both 32bit and 64bit Vista on my machines at home and haven't had any issues with them.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:03 PM   #3
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I'm running 64bit Vista on my main machine, I HAVE seen a crash or two lately, but it's always been when I've been running a few video rendering streams, plus other apps open, and I disconnect an external hard drive. That's the only pattern I've seen -- heavy processor & RAM usage combined with yanking an HD.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:06 PM   #4
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Hi guys,

Just wondering, is anyone else having problems with their system crashing after the latest rounds of windows updates?

I know, I know... should have gotten a mac
No you shouldn't of gotten a mac. lol
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:07 PM   #5
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:21 PM   #6
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yep, constant browser lockups. i use firefox mostly. including their latest.
i have been also running the win 7 beta, and their release candidate. same thing.
today i rolled back to xp, and things are good again ..
it seems to be with webpages with some sort of flash or ??? animated banners on the side. even walking away from my computer, and come back later with pages simply displayed, it locked up by itself due to the instability with those pages contents.
tried chrome, but dont like it for several reasons. xp seems to be my solution. ubuntu is also a solution or a hackintosh option.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:28 PM   #7
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yep, constant browser lockups. i use firefox mostly. including their latest.
i have been also running the win 7 beta, and their release candidate. same thing.
today i rolled back to xp, and things are good again ..
it seems to be with webpages with some sort of flash or ??? animated banners on the side. even walking away from my computer, and come back later with pages simply displayed, it locked up by itself due to the instability with those pages contents.
tried chrome, but dont like it for several reasons. xp seems to be my solution. ubuntu is also a solution or a hackintosh option.
thats firefox doing the locking up. Chrome on vista and win7 is awesome. I've had FF issues every since I upgraded to the newest. I am barely using FF now, just for some web dev stuff only.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:47 PM   #8
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My pc is running great after the latest updates.
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:24 PM   #9
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I'm running 64bit Vista on my main machine, I HAVE seen a crash or two lately, but it's always been when I've been running a few video rendering streams, plus other apps open, and I disconnect an external hard drive. That's the only pattern I've seen -- heavy processor & RAM usage combined with yanking an HD.
The last crash was immediatly after I disconnected the external hard drive.
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:14 PM   #12
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:18 PM   #14
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yes and always wants to update all the other programs after every windows update, not only that but its starting to lag more often now...
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The last crash was immediatly after I disconnected the external hard drive.
USB or Firewire?
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:23 PM   #16
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I have one vista 32 system with shitloads of ram that consistently crashed the past few months but since the last service pack update a couple of days ago it's been fine. [fingers crossed]. Still using firefox on it and that crashes all the time (all versions), shame, the new 3.52 is super fast.
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:33 PM   #17
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Did some searching around, looks like there are compatibility problems between Vista and Firewire devices. So that may be MY problem, at least.

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yep, constant browser lockups. i use firefox mostly. including their latest.
i have been also running the win 7 beta, and their release candidate. same thing.
today i rolled back to xp, and things are good again ..
it seems to be with webpages with some sort of flash or ??? animated banners on the side. even walking away from my computer, and come back later with pages simply displayed, it locked up by itself due to the instability with those pages contents.
tried chrome, but dont like it for several reasons. xp seems to be my solution. ubuntu is also a solution or a hackintosh option.
flash was crashing my box too... I shut down the internet when I have huge renders... no more problems
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After a BSOD in Vista you should get a box that says "Find Solution". Click It. It works.
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Hmmmm. I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers and next time it crashes copy the error codes. I always do the search for solution on recovery and so far windows has come back with nothing.

Pretty much a brand new machine, super clean. I've had it since end of june , begining of july. Never had an issue until the other day right after an update. New IE update is looking nice, but for some reason the OS has just bombed out. It's not cronic, but once a day, if it hit me at the right moment could really fuck me.

Damnit.
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You probably have this driver, I would update it if so.

Intel Matrix Storage Manager

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2101
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is anyone else having problems with their system crashing after the latest rounds of windows updates?
Yes, one of my clients is experiencing problems and this is what was found to be the issue. YMMV...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/KB973879
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Hmmmm. I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers and next time it crashes copy the error codes. I always do the search for solution on recovery and so far windows has come back with nothing.

Pretty much a brand new machine, super clean. I've had it since end of june , begining of july. Never had an issue until the other day right after an update. New IE update is looking nice, but for some reason the OS has just bombed out. It's not cronic, but once a day, if it hit me at the right moment could really fuck me.

Damnit.
You can check the problems reports and solutions in the control panel. It may tell you what's causing it in there.

The best way though would probably be to turn on small memory dumps. Then the next time it crashes open up the dump file in the debugging tool here. Once you open the file it will most likely list the problem such as a driver for one of your devices or a program causing it.
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Never had a crash on Vista. I run tons of programs simultaneously and run dual monitor displays without a hitch .
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Pretty much a brand new machine, super clean. I've had it since end of june , begining of july. Never had an issue until the other day right after an update. New IE update is looking nice, but for some reason the OS has just bombed out. It's not cronic, but once a day, if it hit me at the right moment could really fuck me.

Damnit.
I know some may think I'm crazy but I have never updated vista... except once.. and that will be the last time. Unless something "breaks" cause I believe with most software "if it ain't broke don't fix it" after getting it (April 2008, it has definitions and updates from Nov 2007) I blindly like many updated the works. Long story short, it immediately screwed some things up with other software I was using.

The ONLY repair was luckily It had restore points.

That is what I would do if poss.

So it has never been updated, runs defs from late 2007 and RUNS GREAT. Never crashes. Fast.

Software updates are not always in the end users best interest. (notice how nice I was, I was gonna say, software updates are for suckers)

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From what I've seen only maybe 30% of software continues to improve update after update.

Most become bloated and crappy. And some will fuck other shit up, and still others will take back shit they gave you in previous updates because they now realize it is in their best interst to do so.

Of course there are exceptions that "can" be updated (notepad hehe) or "must" be updated. (Nifty Stats - God bless um, great running software)

Anyhow good luck. Usually crashes are from conflicts with other software. Get "Process Explorer" (do search) Great free prog that will show all running processes and allow you to pause them a few at a time. Try shutting certain software and processes down a few at a time to try and narrow it. Or maybe something will stand out.

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no problems, hon. ck your registry. maybe something has changed
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Looks like I found the cause of my problem, it's what eroticsexxx mentioned, but here's more info with uninstall procedure.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975070

Keep in mind this is 64-bit Vista that's effected by this.
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I'm new to vista, got the 64 bit on a new laptop and yeah, lately every time I unplugged something from the usb I would get the dreaded BSOD, I used the "find solution" and "send info to microsoft" utility just for yuks and it told me that update #KB973879 was at fault,
I booted in safe mode, removed that update and no more BSODs

that being said I still am not liking vista and I'm glad I qualified for the free windows 7 upgrade
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Looks like I found the cause of my problem, it's what eroticsexxx mentioned, but here's more info with uninstall procedure.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975070

Keep in mind this is 64-bit Vista that's effected by this.
This is pretty much what I did saturday night, just rolled everything back. Since then everything's been fine. No crashes in over 24 hours.

Good job on the QA testing Microsoft
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