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Old 08-21-2009, 11:06 PM   #101
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Whats the story behind the domain name ? Didn't ibill go bankrupt ? Why was it not sold ? isn't it a crime to withhold assets or something ?
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Think about this. If after the fall a "founder" or "original programmer" from Ibill came clean...was honest and wanted to work again...of course, as long as he did not pocket a ton of money...just an honest folk wanting an honest job, wouldn't every one be cool with him? Instead the former "programmers" of ibill were not heard from for several years. Then they reintroduced themselves with custom painted limos and pole dancers at an adult expo. Can you smell major bullshit?
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iBill??? who cares ... ?

Like GFY is the center of the adult web master universe ???

There is that very very small chance the new iBill will hook-up with AWMs who have never heard of them before. And who have never heard of GFY. Contrary to popular belief the advance of internet marketing isn't dependent upon GFY members.
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iBill??? who cares ... ?

Like GFY is the center of the adult web master universe ???

There is that very very small chance the new iBill will hook-up with AWMs who have never heard of them before. And who have never heard of GFY. Contrary to popular belief the advance of internet marketing isn't dependent upon GFY members.
This news is on more than just
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Like GFY is the center of the adult web master universe ???

There is that very very small chance the new iBill will hook-up with AWMs who have never heard of them before. And who have never heard of GFY. Contrary to popular belief the advance of internet marketing isn't dependent upon GFY members.
if so why did iBill post here ?
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Think about this. If after the fall a "founder" or "original programmer" from Ibill came clean...was honest and wanted to work again...of course, as long as he did not pocket a ton of money...just an honest folk wanting an honest job, wouldn't every one be cool with him? Instead the former "programmers" of ibill were not heard from for several years. Then they reintroduced themselves with custom painted limos and pole dancers at an adult expo. Can you smell major bullshit?
Actually, it's not the founders of iBill that fucked us over. It was the people that bought the company. The founders were really good people. I recall that once they had an outage that interrupted billing and the original founders decided to pay us for the loss based on average sales. Not even your ISP will do that when your site is down. Additionally, if you had a serious problem or needed special attention, you could speak directly to the mangement even on their cell phones after hours. It was a partnership made in heaven.

I do believe the founders left after the purchase. Corrections welcomed.
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Actually, it's not the founders of iBill that fucked us over. It was the people that bought the company. The founders were really good people. I recall that once they had an outage that interrupted billing and the original founders decided to pay us for the loss based on average sales. Not even your ISP will do that when your site is down. Additionally, if you had a serious problem or needed special attention, you could speak directly to the mangement even on their cell phones after hours. It was a partnership made in heaven.

I do believe the founders left after the purchase. Corrections welcomed.
The founder was still in charge when the WEB 900 fiasco happened and webmasters lost many thousands in revenue
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Actually, it's not the founders of iBill that fucked us over. It was the people that bought the company. The founders were really good people. I recall that once they had an outage that interrupted billing and the original founders decided to pay us for the loss based on average sales. Not even your ISP will do that when your site is down. Additionally, if you had a serious problem or needed special attention, you could speak directly to the mangement even on their cell phones after hours. It was a partnership made in heaven.

I do believe the founders left after the purchase. Corrections welcomed.

So the founders of Ibill built a company that webmasters trusted. Then they sold the company to bad people who stole millions. Then the bad people went away and the founders came back. When the founders came back it was in custom painted limos. It stinks to high heaven!
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Common...you guys cannot be serious about this.
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Hi there,

I can tell you that we did not have any limo's, I am not sure who told you this, but i am sure if we did, there would have been a photo somewhere.

Again, Miami 09 no limo's for iBill

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Hello, and greetings from Nigeria.

We would like to introduce the peoples of our new billing processor, NigBill. We understand a company previously called NigBill stole all of your moneys so we would like to offer you stock in the new NigBill. Please understand that even though we have the same name we did not steal your money, however, we are willing to offer fake compensation for the money we really don't owe you, (because we are not the same company). That's how considerate we are of your concerns.

So now that you are assured of our genuineness please use our billing company and place your trust with us.

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Hello, and greetings from Nigeria.

We would like to introduce the peoples of our new billing processor, NigBill. We understand a company previously called NigBill stole all of your moneys so we would like to offer you stock in the new NigBill. Please understand that even though we have the same name we did not steal your money, however, we are willing to offer fake compensation for the money we really don't owe you, (because we are not the same company). That's how considerate we are of your concerns.

So now that you are assured of our genuineness please use our billing company and place your trust with us.

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So the founders of Ibill built a company that webmasters trusted. Then they sold the company to bad people who stole millions. Then the bad people went away and the founders came back. When the founders came back it was in custom painted limos. It stinks to high heaven!
Classic !

Unquestionably the most succinct summation of Ibill's bullshit I've yet to read.

And yes, custom painted limos or no custom painted limos, Ibill's bullshit stinks like no other bovine droppings on the globe.
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By Oct 2002 I managed to get about 40 members recurring as an affil with Porn Megabucks.. now these were fetish buyers who would recur a long time. I went from 40 members to 1 that month. To me it isn't the money (well it is) but more what happened to those members. I guess they just were kicked off the paysite.

Pretty sure it was with Ibill, it wasn't CCBill for sure and I dont think it was with Epoch.

Can anyone verify it was Oct 2002 when IBill went belly up.

I don't really give a dam, to me it is over but I'm curious wtf happened to those 39 members. I guess when the processer goes belly up so goes the affil's recurs, simple as that. (Duh)

So yeah it hurt at the time quite a bit.
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I can tell you that we did not have any limo's, I am not sure who told you this, but i am sure if we did, there would have been a photo somewhere.

Again, Miami 09 no limo's for iBill

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I can vouch that Ibll had no limos, they pulled up i taxis, rolln on yellow cab
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Mr IBill, Jonas...
I have a few questions for you, some that i think you will need to answer if you hope to ever have a chance of turning anything around.

This has nothing to do with the former IBill, but I, and I?m sure a LOT of other people would be interested in this one, personally i think you must be suffering from a form of retardation or just have really poor decision making people behind you!

However if you can answer some of this some of us might change our minds, heck it can?t really get any worse for you now can it.
You are in for hard questions, so here we go.

1. Who made the decision to purchase "use" the ibill name?
2. Why "be precise" was this done (Shock value, poor research, investor demands etc etc)
3. Do you really think that by taking on the name IBill that, that will exempt you from dealing with some of the shit they left behind?
After all you "By taking the name" hope to profit in some way from the misfortune of others ?Shock value?.

I have more, but i doubt you will answer any of them...
However if you do good on you, remember if you want any good business here people have to know the reason behind all of this, if they don?t you are just a retard, pure and simple.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:36 AM   #146
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i'll say it again... the BIGGEST RED FLAG by far is the fact that a group of idiots got together and actually thought it was a great idea to revive a name that has been thoroughly destroyed, is associated with one of the biggest IPSP failures ever and of a company that OWES people money.. and then try to market that to the same crowd.

its difficult to grasp the unfathomable incompetence demonstrated right out of the gate... i mean, people couldn't even believe it was fucking real.. that's how mind numbingly stupid these "business decisions" are before they even get started.. and what? you're really going to trust them with your money? seriously?

anyone doing business with these people deserves exactly what will happen. there is only one possible outcome for this company.
I got down to this post and found there was really no need to read any further, it says it all.
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Wow! i heard of starting a company with nothing and no rep, but to choose a company with a very bad rep??? Thats pretty smart!!


Im gonna buy Enron.com and see if people want to do business with me.
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All these weeks and still these jokers cannot answer simple questions. That alone tells you not to deal with them. What's the saying a Leopard never changes his spots ?
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