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F-U-Jimmy Thanks for the bumps, without you, I would have not seen this.

Loch,

Sorry for the delay in answering your questions, I have not been on here in a few days.

Here are my answers to the questions you have.

1. Who made the decision to purchase "use" the ibill name?
The choice to purchase iBill was maid by me and two other people in the company. This was not a hard choice at all.

2. Why "be precise" was this done (Shock value, poor research, investor demands etc etc)
Poor research is so far from the truth. It was great research that made us take the name back. Yes there are negative stories on iBill but there was so much good that iBill did as well. I am sorry, but at this time I can’t get into details as to why and how we benefit from the name, but to this day I am not sorry we did it at all and we are where we thought we would be at this time.

3. Do you really think that by taking on the name IBill that, that will exempt you from dealing with some of the shit they left behind?

Not at all! When we started iBill, we knew that there was going to be a ton of people upset with the idea that the company that took their money was back. This was something that we have to get around and we have put out the time-line of iBill to help people understand that iBill of new has nothing to do with the iBill of old except for myself who left in 2002.

Once I did my first post online, I got tons of “where’s my money” emails and I had them forwarded to me directly so I could respond to each one of them. I had a women call me and told me just how bad it was for her with her looking her power because iBill was the only income she was getting from her sites.

iBill employed some bad people in the past who had some deep issues with the SEC and their shareholder and that is why they failed, maybe if the site they were working on to compete with eBay had taken off, it would be a different story for everyone. The bottom line is that company that purchased iBill was doing to much at once. iBill the name is a victim just like the customers. If any of you remember the old iBill, the owners were not visible at all. When there were shows, only the employees would show up to most of them, not the CEO.

This is why I want to be visible to people. I went to Miami and met with a lot of people who got to talk to me 1 on 1. I did not go to Canada but I am going to Amsterdam and will meet with people again. If anyone calls and ask for me, I will talk if I am in the office, hell I am not bigger then anyone at the office and I will answer the phone so you might get me off the bat.

I hope this helps and if you have any other questions, please drop me a email to notify me to look on the board.

Thanks

Jonas
iBill

Interesting news from iBill.

You can count on me 100% to keep this one page one at least for a year or two, if only to get you to answer one simple question that you always ignore. How much insurance do you carry should IBILL go Belly up again, to cover the losses of webmaster. After all you want them to trust IBILL after the theft of more than 33 million $. So is this is a simple enough question ? :thumbsup

The same can be said for Bernard Madoff. :error He made everyone a lot of money until he couldn't pay them anymore. Look where he is - going to fucking die in prison. Want to start doing business under his name too?

Either you guys don't get it or you're full of shit and you have ties with the old iBill...either way is pretty damn bad because you either have extremely poor judgment, which means you may ultimately fuck your customers on a poor judgment call at some point or another, or you have bad ethics and will fuck your customers because the old iBill did and got away with it too. Take your pick.

Obviously the question was too hard for this guy :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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It's fucking amazing that these retards cannot even answer a simple question like how much insurance they have to safeguard you ( the webmasters ) money. At least a Bank that holds your money has a guarantee of up to $250,000 per account. I have to have insurance in my business it's the law. I wonder what the law is in Denver, Colorado ? Im going to be asking some questions over the next few days to see just what a financial institution needs by way collateral, reserves, insurance etc ? Im sure the state of Colorado has this info available to anyone that asks ?

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Hello again from Nigeria, we want to extend to the members of GFY a new investment opportunity. The new company will be called, Enron.

All your moneys belong to us.

Bepop. :thumbsup

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well i would first like them to pay out some cash. these guys are absolutely idiots

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Jonas you are avoiding to talk about the hard questions i had....
Honestly i cant blame you and i understand why you bought Ibill, or the name.

Afterall why be ignored as a nobody when you can profit off other peoples misfortune as someone who had nothing to do with ibills mess?
If you dont think that you are then please go back to your unnamed partner and ask him why he told you that BAD publicity would be turned into good publicity.

The bottom line people lost money regardless of what happened before all the good facts are washed away and the only thing that matters money was lost! If you are looking to prove something to yourself that you can still run a succesful company with that name well more power too you but it will take time and a lot trust building...

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Congrats to the crooks!

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http://www.yankeelady.com/postcard//wasntme.jpg

Sorry but just because you're available on the phone and show up at trade shows doesn't make it all better or absolve the company or you. Claim as you will that it's a new company under new management shows a complete lack of understanding and empathy for those that were shown the same attitude of "wasn't me" that I-Bill had and still has along with the suffering and financial loss many suffered.

Leopards don't change their spots only move them around.

Funny when you read the diarrhea this Joan's guy wrote, he cannot even put together coherent sentences he uses Maid in place of made, do you want someone with less than 5th grade education looking after your money ? And WTF does this mean ? (I had a women call me and told me just how bad it was for her with her looking her power because iBill was the only income she was getting from her sites.)
And still he is unable to answer one simple question how does IBILL mean to look after webmasters when it goes bust again ? No insurance and no reserves = You are fucked again !!

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Fuck stop bumping this evil shit asshole.

www.ibill.com is trying mainstream.they are not nice to us.

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I got an idea. Since no one is taking time to use this thread, I'll ask:

Ibill

Somewhere is about 20K of money that I earned back when. At the time my financial situation was better. I could really use the money for an operation for by dad now.

As a show of compassion can you please track the funds and help me.

Please.

You can write here for contact.

May G-D be with you.

you should pay us to forget LOL

Let us know how that works for you

"The choice to purchase iBill was maid by me and two other people in the company. This was not a hard choice at all."

It was MADE by you, you can't even fucking spell a 4 letter word ! So three people from the old Ibill, one of which can't even spell come up with the idea of relaunching THE most discredited name in adult internet history !! I didn't lose anything like the amounts some people here have but I did experience having to essentially start from scratch again thanks to Ibill and I still remember the bullshit my so called rep gave me over the phone. Thanks for rekindling a fury I thought was long gone.

BUT, putting all that aside, give me ONE SINGLE advantage the new IBILL has over CCbill or Epoch ?

How about no insurance no capital to cover loses when they go bust again ?

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