TheFLY

I sign up last night for ARS for the first time ever -- they have to "approve" your account before you can send them traffic. What a bunch of crap. So I wait -- today I get an email "ARS Webmaster Application -- DECLINED"

Holy shit. The email says my site was down and to "reapply". Like I got time for these bullshit antics. Here's my fucking traffic graph for today (Sexcounter) -- I was clearly not down -- what the fuck?! So they totally delete my application?! These people are morons. They obviously don't want my business.

FUCK ARS! SUCK MY DICK YOU ASSHOLES. I'm glad I never sent you traffic in the first place.

Proof I was not down. <img src="http://thefly.net/sexcounter.gif">

Here's the guy that should be fired for deleting my account (Matt Borgman) -- Fucking Borgman maybe you should learn to use a web browser before you start deleting shit. I can see the ad for this job now -- "Wanted: Adult company seeks website reviewers. No computer experience necessary."

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"We are sorry, but

Your webmaster application was declined for the following reason(s):

site url does not work. Please reapply with working site url

Regards,
Matt Borgman
EMAIL: [email protected]
ICQ: 152857888
PHONE: (702) 233-1267
FREE: (877) 277-8500
CELL: 702-296-8129"

TheFLY

Anyway I called Matt. He already deleted my application.

Like I'm going to fucking fill that shit out again. Take your application and ram it up your ass. Who is working for who now?

Steve

Pete - try decaf.

Honestly, I had the same thing happen to me with Traffic Cash Gold. I signed up with them since Diabolical Galleries makes the revshare pages for them (among many others), and I got a similar message. I just deleted it, and then removed them from my sponsor info in the Diabolical sponsor database. I also had a moment of geek rage when this occured. It wasn't pretty, and I am not proud of it. But at least there were no witnesses.

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in the time it took you to come to GFY and complain, post your message, and provide a screencap of your traffic stats, you could have just re-applied.

Breathe deeply and count to ten.

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Just don't send them traffic and tell everybody about that shit = They loose webmaster = they will realise it and get a better system

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traffic cash gold also declined me, I was just gonna put a link up in my exits to test them out.

luckily for me though despite being declined I still get their weekly newsletter.

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yeah fly, you need to relax. I know NYC was too hard on you, but aren't you back on FL where you can relax?

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TheFLY,

Every single application for an account with ARS is reviewed for ARS TOS compliance before it is approved. As I told you on the phone, I was reviewing your account, tried your site URL 5 or 6 times, and it kept coming up with a 404 error. You then gave me a URL that worked over the phone, so I told you to reapply and email me when you did so that I could be sure that you were approved quickly. How can I ensure that your site complies with our TOS if I cant even view it? If you want to send traffic to ARS, great. If not, then good luck in the future. If you have any questions or want to discuss this further, you have all my contact info.

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big deal?

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nope...

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TheFLY

Ahh so you try my URL 5-6 times, but intead of trying to contact me first, you just delete my account. Do you think I have all day to fill out your lame forms and go looking for your emails and confirmation codes? Obviously you don't want new business.

Sounds like bullshit to me. You know damn well that most webmasters send traffic from many domains, and your verification for compliance to TOS is a load of shit. What am I supposed to have a sign up a new application form for each domain that I own?

You guys are on crack.

As for all the decaf comments... at least I give a shit. So many of you just sit back and receive your ass kicking over and over again... and nothing ever changes. At least with my enraged GFY postings I get results. The sponsors always come here because they know what's what. Bad PR is bad PR.

It's just principle. If you delete somebody's account, at least apologize and offer to work on a solution so that future webmasters don't waste their time filling out long application forms for no reason. If you didn't want my biz, you should have at least said so before I filled out the form.

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Hey McFLY, did it ever occur to you that the url you gave at first had a typo? Maybe that's why you were declined. Geesh, Matt just said another URL you gave worked and to re-apply, yet you come here instead to bitch. You are an ass!

Sly_RJ

Do you think they have all day to contact webmasters who can't properly fill out a form listing a working URL?

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TheFLY

Yeah I am an ass. So what if there was a typo. There's no reason to delete my application. What are they short on disk space?

quiet

so you fucked up your application - then start a thread entitled 'ARS = Fucking Retards' when it gets deleted? lol.

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TheFLY

Well if they don't have time for that -- then they obviously don't have time for new affiliates. If they don't have time, why even bother having an employee to review applications?

Yeah it's called customer service. If they want me to send them traffic -- the least they can do is be respectful. If their attitude is that they don't give a shit -- why not just use a script to test 404 and scan for TOS keyword violations -- at least then I wouldn't have to wait a whole day for the response that basically = FUCK YOU.

TheFLY

The problem is I shouldn't be filling out these applications in the first place. I'm doing them a favor, not the other way around.

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you said you applied yesterday, that screencap is today?

Sly_RJ

So is there any affiliate program you DO like?

A side note: what company would save declined applications? Whether it be for a job, college acceptance, scholarship applications, etc.

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TheFLY

He told me on the phone he reviewed my application today, besides the screencap was at around noon, and those 16 hours cover through the time that I signed up.

So yes, I do have proof that they fucked up. And unless they can magically produce my ORIGINAL APPLICATION out of "deletion" -- then they really have no proof that they FUCKED UP.

ARS is in a catch 22 --

1. If they can prove that it was a typo then they are fucking liars and they didn't really delete my application.

2. If they really deleted my application, then:
A) they need a new connection because my site was up
B) they need a new employee
C) they need a new policy regarding deleted applications
D) all of the above

.:Frog:.

Why not signup again? Your account was deleted as a result of your typo.

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Fly, you are the one that is very wrong here. First I'm not a fan of ARS at all, actually I think they suck and are some of the biggest crooks in the biz. However, you filled out a form incorrectly, so you are the retard. Why would they keep a record of all the applications submitted by ding bats that cant fill out a form correctly in the first place??? Give it a rest, and if you really want an account with them, then fill out a new form, and try to get it right this time...They arent responsible for your lack of professionalism, or the lack of. You really didn't need to go starting a bad thread on them in public???.....that just shows more lack of professionalism on your part.

Pipecrew

I can see what TheFly is saying.

TheFLY

The same shit happened a couple of weeks ago w/ CCBill losing my application! But CCBill was kind enough to not only contact me by ICQ, apologize, BUT ALSO THEY FIXED THEIR SYSTEM and offered to buy me drinks in Vegas. A deleted application is a deleted application.

GFY = Justice.

OneHungLo

uhhhh .... dont you host with likewhoa?

TheFLY

A) The slap me in the face -- do I want to work with them now?
B) There was no typo.

Matt M

When was Matt B Disrespecting you? He talked to you on the phone, resolved the problem with you, and told you that he would personally make sure your account was handled quickly when you reapplied.


I dont know what "Customer support", or "respect" you were looking for, but I think Matt B gave you a lot of both.

Sly_RJ

That was a deleted application caused by problems with their software.

This situation is a DECLINED application cause by YOUR error. Then you try blaming them. Dude, you fucked up, big deal! Go file another application (takes 5 minutes) or walk in a different direction.

GFY != Justice.
GFY = Forum for people to spout bull shit when they fuck up.

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TheFLY

Where is the proof that I filled out a form incorrectly? The reason that I started this thread is because they suck ass and the world needs to know. Where is my apology for deleting my application?

As for professionalism, I could give a fuck what you think after calling me a ding bat -- and I already could give a fuck what Brad Shaw or ARS thinks about my professionalism either

funkmaster

TheFLY ... wasn´t it you the screamed "likewhoa is bullshit" the loudest only some 8 month ago ... within 4 days all your traffic will belong to ARS ... wanna bet ?

pornJester

I dunno, i'm gonna side with ARS on this one, for every one good application they probably get 5 bad ones. It wouldn't be cost/time effective for them to contact everyone about mistakes on their applications. I run webmaster resources and i get a similar ratio of crap submissions. I even get people sending me TGP galleries and wanting to be listed on Webmaster Vault, it can be a tedious process picking through the crap.

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.:Frog:.

Was this url hosted at likewhoa?
Likewhoa is going on & off all the time.
Or as someone put it: "flapping"
Not every page request is going through.

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Let's see PROOF of my error.

Until then, take your speculative comments and shove 'em.

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TheFly,


The proof is that you had to give Matt B the correct URL over the phone in order to get it to work. If it had worked in the first place, there would have been no need for the phone call.

TheFLY

Do I have to explain to you how to do business?

If it doesn't load, then contact the webmaster -- you have my phone #! Or at least you HAD it until you deleted it! Why delete the application? I think you're full of shit. I can't wait until I get some ARS spam so I have proof that you fuckers didn't delete my account. Surely the amount of traffic that I would have sent is worth a single phone call. Do you really think webmasters are going to fill out your lengthy form twice?! Let's face it you don't give a shit or you wouldn't be deleting applications in the first place.

There's no reason to delete an application -- please name one reason!? Are you trying to conserve disk space??? Can you afford to maintain records?

Martin

ARS invented shaving..

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TheFLY

Ok, continue to blame me and don't apologize for your error. Your employees are perfect and never make mistakes, your application system is perfect and is flawless, your scripts are never broken, and your internet connection is the definitive and final answer to all questions.

Get off your high horse, at least I admit that there COULD have been a typo -- but you admit no wrong... that's not the point --

The point is I'm very pissed off -- there's a legitimate albiet nasty thread about you on GFY -- and you are concerned or you wouldn't be here blowing smoke.