FACT: Organic Foods are Bullshit!

[WarChild]

- If all food was farmed organically, the Earth could support in the best case around 4 Billion people. The current earth population is nearing 7 Billion people. Which 3 Billion should we let starve to death? Maybe the hippy organic fucks.

- Most organic food found in super markets comes from corporate giants, not local farmers. Somewhere around 20% of organic food being sold in the USA is imported from China. There's no requirement to mark origin of the food. If you really want to support local farmers, go to a farmers market shithead.

- In blind taste testing organic foods have never demostarted measurably better taste. Some studies actually show quite the opposite. It tastes better in your mind because you're fucking retarded.

- No evidence of any sort exists to suggest organic food is more nutrious than non-organic foods. Scientifically, it's not an issue at all. It's just plain and simple bullshit.

- No crops are grown pesticide free. All organic farmers use pesticides. The difference is instead of using the latest and greatest pesticides designed specifically to be less toxic, organic farmers use harsher "natural" pesticides in huge ammounts. Your exposure to pesticides is significantly higher with organic foods.

You're paying more money, for no increased value and still making corporations rich. Good job, Assholes.

[MetaMan]

HAHA what is funny i was about to make a post about this last week.

but you explained it much better mine would have more been on the lines of "organic food is for faggots and hippies"

[d-null]

disagree with that, try a taste test yourself, get someone to help you do a blind taste test, try it on tomatos, try it on carrots, you'd be surprised

the organic vegetables taste way better

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by d-null

disagree with that, try a taste test yourself, get someone to help you do a blind taste test, try it on tomatos, try it on carrots, you'd be surprised

the organic vegetables taste way better

[DWB]

Originally Posted by WarChild

- If all food was farmed organically, the Earth could support in the best case around 4 Billion people. The current earth population is nearing 7 Billion people. Which 3 Billion should we let starve to death?

Actually, the majority of the worlds population goes to bed hungry every night, so they are already starving.

People are going to starve anyway, no matter what you do to try to save them, it's the nature of the beast.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by WarChild

and the berries are ridiculously good, blackberries and raspberries fresh and organic

you can probably do a side by side taste test right in the grocery store they sometimes have a box open for tasting

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Actually, the majority of the worlds population goes to bed hungry every night, so they are already starving.

People are going to starve anyway, no matter what you do to try to save them, it's the nature of the beast.

I don't know why this simple math eludes you.

Currently the Earth's population is near 7 Billion. At the absolute best Organic farming could support 4 Billion. That means if I can magically wave a wand and change all farming to organic, non modified crops. 3 Billion people would starve to death. It's simple really.

[BestXXXPorn]

Like any type of food it all depends on the source... Why buy store bought "organic"? Go down to the local farm and buy some veggies or a farmer's market or whatever. And free range eggs are definitely WAY better for you, for good reason though, the chickens get to feed off of bugs and they get a lot more exercise. Here's some stats:

• 1/3 less cholesterol
• 1/4 less saturated fat
• 2/3 more vitamin A
• 2 times more omega-3 fatty acids
• 3 times more vitamin E
• 7 times more beta carotene

Once again it depends on the source... local farms are probably your best bet. If you've got some land yourself, pick up 4 chicks for $20. They cost about $0.10 a day in feed (for all four) if they're free range and will plop out about two dozen eggs per week! Plus they're fantastic for bug control

[Martin]

I watched that show a couple weeks ago too. Asking people to compare organically grown food to non-organic mean while it was just the same non-organic piece of fruit/veggie cut in half. 100% of the sheep asked said the organically grown food tasted way better. Man people are dumb fucking sheep.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I don't know why this simple math eludes you.

Currently the Earth's population is near 7 Billion. At the absolute best Organic farming could support 4 Billion. That means if I can magically wave a wand and change all farming to organic, non modified crops. 3 Billion people would starve to death. It's simple really.

is that counting bugs? some peoples eat bugs

[beemk]

the same people that fall for this bullshit and spend 3x the $ on produce they would spend on non organic are the same idiots that think they are being healthy while they dont eat meat but dont get any protein in their diet.

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by beemk

the same people that fall for this bullshit and spend 3x the $ on produce they would spend on non organic are the same idiots that think they are being healthy while they dont eat meat but dont get any protein in their diet.

You realize you can get protein from other things besides meat, right?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I don't know why this simple math eludes you.

Currently the Earth's population is near 7 Billion. At the absolute best Organic farming could support 4 Billion. That means if I can magically wave a wand and change all farming to organic, non modified crops. 3 Billion people would starve to death. It's simple really.

I get that. I'm saying they are starving already, so don't worry about it.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by beemk

the same people that fall for this bullshit and spend 3x the $ on produce they would spend on non organic are the same idiots that think they are being healthy while they dont eat meat but dont get any protein in their diet.

I really like organic beef, or at the very least free range beef

[Tom_PM]

Grow your own, use all the chemicals you want, or none at all. Problem solved.

Your definition of "organic" seems to be narrow. You can garden hydroponically and still label "organic".

Again though, just grow what you and your family eats, and it's problem solved-ville.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by WarChild

- If all food was farmed organically, the Earth could support in the best case around 4 Billion people. The current earth population is nearing 7 Billion people. Which 3 Billion should we let starve to death? Maybe the hippy organic fucks.

Now that would be some population control.

[quiet]

i love picking stuff up at our local farmers market, as well as driving out to the farms in Pemberton, BC (lots of great fruit and veggies). other than that, i stay away from faux organic.

[scuba steve]

i just like his commentary on every fact. i wish real news was like that

[The Duck]

I dont even know why anyone would make a stand against organic food. Stupid.

[beemk]

Originally Posted by lamerhooD

You realize you can get protein from other things besides meat, right?

yeah, but a lot of people who dont eat meat just dont eat enough of those things... thats my point.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by d-null

disagree with that, try a taste test yourself, get someone to help you do a blind taste test, try it on tomatos, try it on carrots, you'd be surprised

the organic vegetables taste way better

I agree.

A lot of organic shit is balls. Rice? Fuck that shit. But, vegetables are so obviously better tasting.

It makes sense really.

a) carrots that are sprayed with chemicals all their lives
b) carrots that are sprayed with nothing but rain and sun

You'd have to be fairly fucking stupid to think that there would be no difference in taste.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I agree.

A lot of organic shit is balls. Rice? Fuck that shit. But, vegetables are so obviously better tasting.

They're "obviously" better tasting because you believe they are. Nothing more.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I agree.

A lot of organic shit is balls. Rice? Fuck that shit. But, vegetables are so obviously better tasting.

It makes sense really.

a) carrots that are sprayed with chemicals all their lives
b) carrots that are sprayed with nothing but rain and sun

You'd have to be fairly fucking stupid to think that there would be no difference in taste.

Whoa back the fuck up.

What makes you think even for a second that "organic" carrots are sprayed with nothing but rain and sun? You're confused.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by WarChild

why its funny. taste natural and shit fruit, maybe strawberries and you will see

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

why its funny. taste natural and shit fruit, maybe strawberries and you will see

Tried them both. There's no difference in taste. Also, you're a fucking idiot in general so please just shut up. Thanks.

[AdultHardcore]

There is no benefit to eating organic produce.

[beemk]

the posts from some of the idiots in this thread support the power of marketing to the average consumer.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by WarChild

They're "obviously" better tasting because you believe they are. Nothing more.

You can taste a difference between the shit they have in the store and what you can grow on your own. Though, it's the freshness that you taste. How it's grown won't make a difference.

[Tom_PM]

There is no benefit to eating in-organic food.

Your move. lol.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by AdultHardcore

There is no benefit to eating organic produce.

You can prove this how? Some pesticides can be cancer causing. If I can do ANYTHING to reduce my chance of getting cancer, there is a benefit.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You can taste a difference between the shit they have in the store and what you can grow on your own. Though, it's the freshness that you taste. How it's grown won't make a difference.

Exactly. Of course vine ripened tomatoes fresh from the farm are going to taste a lot better than hot house tomatoes that ripen in the shelves.

[Slappin Fish]

Agree with most of what you say but there is some use for organic.

Most people will buy organic eggs these days, isn't much more resource intensive than battery eggs, definitely a better choice for both us and the hens

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You can prove this how? Some pesticides can be cancer causing. If I can do ANYTHING to reduce my chance of getting cancer, there is a benefit.

Like I said before, "organic" farmers use pesticides too. They use more of it even because the crops are not genetically modified to be resistant and the pesticides they use are much older broad ranging poisons.

[d-null]

pesticides are found inside fruit and vegetables, just washing them off doesn't get rid of it

[d-null]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Like I said before, "organic" farmers use pesticides too. They use more of it even because the crops are not genetically modified to be resistant and the pesticides they use are much older broad ranging poisons.

source?


or in more modern english.... sauce?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by d-null

source?


or in more modern english.... sauce?

Just look it up on google.

Many people believe organic foods are grown without pesticides. The reality is, organic farmers user "natural" pesticides instead of synthetic alternatives.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Though, it's the freshness that you taste. How it's grown won't make a difference.

Organic doesn't necessarily make a difference but how it is grown does, soilless tomatoes always taste like shit.

[epitome]

Don't bitch just because you cannot afford good food.

I'll stick to Whole Foods where my vegetables are grown within 80 miles of my home and the wasted food at the store is composted and shipped back to the farmers for fertilizer.

Please dispute me on how Whole Foods operates. I'd love to school you.

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by epitome

Don't bitch just because you cannot afford good food.

I'll stick to Whole Foods where my vegetables are grown within 80 miles of my home and the wasted food at the store is composted and shipped back to the farmers for fertilizer.

Please dispute me on how Whole Foods operates. I'd love to school you.

Bingo

[boneprone]

- No crops are grown pesticide free. All organic farmers use pesticides. The difference is instead of using the latest and greatest pesticides designed specifically to be less toxic, organic farmers use harsher "natural" pesticides in huge ammounts. Your exposure to pesticides is significantly higher with organic foods.


is this true?
if so that is very intresting?
Are you sure its not pesticide free? I thought that was the point of "organic"??

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by epitome

Don't bitch just because you cannot afford good food.

I'll stick to Whole Foods where my vegetables are grown within 80 miles of my home and the wasted food at the store is composted and shipped back to the farmers for fertilizer.

Please dispute me on how Whole Foods operates. I'd love to school you.

Cannot afford good food? It's okay to be ignorant but you don't have to advertise that fact. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that my food budget absolutely dwarves yours.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by boneprone

- No crops are grown pesticide free. All organic farmers use pesticides. The difference is instead of using the latest and greatest pesticides designed specifically to be less toxic, organic farmers use harsher "natural" pesticides in huge ammounts. Your exposure to pesticides is significantly higher with organic foods.


is this true?
if so that is very intresting?
Are you sure its not pesticide free? I thought that was the point of "organic"??

Yes it's true.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Organic doesn't necessarily make a difference but how it is grown does, soilless tomatoes always taste like shit.

I think this is because most commercial hydroponic growers dont take the level of care that you or I would, and they dont allow a proper nutrient "flush" before harvest.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Organic doesn't necessarily make a difference but how it is grown does, soilless tomatoes always taste like shit.

I mean if it's grown "organically" or not.

Of course HOW you GROW it will make a difference.

[Sly]

Another "marketing gimmick" to watch for is "free range". There are pretty much no restrictions the term "free range". A farmer could let a chicken out of its cage for 30 seconds a day and then slap on a "free range" sticker. It's like bottled water... unregulated.

[Tom_PM]

Actually, isn't it more true to say that it IS regulated, but the regulators SUCK? lmao!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Yes it's true.

We grow all our own veggies and some fruit. No pesticides are used.

Of course we don't sell the veggies, but we do sell Avocados. Again, no pesticides.

I think it depends on who grows it, what it is and what region of the world it's in. In some areas, you just don't need to use any.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

We grow all our own veggies and some fruit. No pesticides are used.

Of course we don't sell the veggies, but we do sell Avocados. Again, no pesticides.

I think it depends on who grows it, what it is and what region of the world it's in. In some areas, you just don't need to use any.

Just out of curiousity, do you use genetically non modified seeds?

[Libertine]

What kills the taste in many commercially grown foods is that farmers tend to go for high-yield varieties rather that the tastier ones.

Artificial fertilizer and chemical pesticides don't affect taste in any significant way, but they tend to be used in combination with the most efficient (and often least tasty) cultivars.

On the other hand, quite a few organic farmers tend to go for cultivars with a lower yield but higher quality. That's why in some cases, their products really do taste much better.

Moral of the story: the "organic" label is useless, but small-scale operations aiming for quality instead of yield do tend to deliver better products.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

We grow all our own veggies and some fruit. No pesticides are used.

Of course we don't sell the veggies, but we do sell Avocados. Again, no pesticides.

I think it depends on who grows it, what it is and what region of the world it's in. In some areas, you just don't need to use any.

If you ever use pesticides make sure you avoid Monsanto.

Their products are not designed to be less toxic as it is implied, their products are designed to kill any seed not genetically modified by Monsanto. Ask the Indian farmer who were given free seeds and pesticides, now left with fields infertile to anything none Monsanto.


They were also working on an even better technology called "The Terminator" which ensured crops produced sterile seeds. Farmers could not continue holding over the seeds produced in one growing season for use in the next. They had to backtrack on that one.