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cherrylula · 12-04-2002, 03:43 AM

gotta luv dat fiddi

Darren · 12-04-2002, 03:44 AM

ok my last post on this entire fiasco.

I feel I had the right to post regarding my designs due to the fact they are over a month late and still not done, I did STRESS to you Traci that the orginal design I gave you needed to be done by the end of November, you even took on more work from me because you said you could get it done

It is about 60 days+ now from the start of the project and I have had NO communication from yourself, I have tried to discuss this many times with you. This is MY only rift with you, I have lost money big time because I have been telling affiliates the new site will be ready in November when in fact i still do not have them in December.

This is all true as you know and saying you are going to sue me because of writing the truth is laughable. This situation is to neither of our liking.

Regarding you not paying designers and claiming you did not get paid by the guys at IceColdCash affected me because the designer would not finish my work until you had paid him, that is why I got involved. All the accusations regarding that where NOT made by me but by several designers. Regarding your holiday in an e-mail to IceColdCash thanking them you said with the prize money you would be going on holiday. That is where that came from.

I am sorry about your problems, truly am, but you made empty promises to me and after 60+ days of waiting and trying to contact you and being told i couldnt talk to you but i had to talk to someone called swift who then disapeared because a family member died and then BuckNaked showed no signs of doing my design it was all very annoying and costing me money. I e-mailed and ICQed u every day for a week saying i would be posting if this wasnt cleared up.

My ONLY problem with you is the designs and the fact you didnt stick to the deadline.

I paid you up front $1,650 via international wire from the UK obviously there is a 2-3 business day delay because of this. The agreed price on the designs was $3000 for all 3 sites that obviously included discount for bulk work, your calculations are wrong because you have listed the jobs on an indivdual basis even though we agreed a bulk price. I paid OVER 50%, the 2 site designs which I now have 2 weeks after the deadline are simplistic compared to the main site design Mens-Network. Mens-Network was $1500 as originally quoted on its own. It is Mens-Network I do not have. You accuse me off some how wrecking your family, well i could accuse you of wrecking my business. This is all so childish.

The GFY post contained other designers saying u have never paid them, that is their problem with you.

Again I am sorry about your family troubles, I do NOT like to conduct business on the boards and I have MANY MANY friends in this industry who I have worked successfully with in the past and this is my first problem of this nature. You have my ICQ and my E-mail and my phone number, this entire eposide is due to me not getting any communication from yourself, I am not an heartless bastard but if I do not know what is going on and I am being fed alot of bullshit then I can only make my conclusions from that.

Much love

Darren

- To see the actual e-mails etc and quotes from private gold, me and the designers Traci do a search for Liquid Design it will come up as the first post.

Jakke PNG · 12-04-2002, 03:56 AM

chodadog · 12-04-2002, 03:57 AM

I still find it hilarious that this Traci chick doesn't see a problem with paying someone a mere 400 bucks for a fucking top quality design, and giving him a 1000 dollar bonus for winning the ice cold cash competition.

In my opinion, that design was worth more than 1400 bucks to start with. The fact that you pocketed an extra 5100 dollars from it, for doing fuck all, is absolutely sickening.

David would have 7500 bucks if it wasn't for your greedy ass. I'll make damn sure i refer people to every thread about this entire fiasco whenever Liquid By Design is mentioned, in any way, shape or form.

Pathetic. You're scum.

Fletch XXX · 12-04-2002, 04:00 AM

Agreed.

In the old days we burned bitches, I mean <i>witches</i>

I guess we are more civilized these days.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 12-04-2002, 04:08 AM

Darren's money is good at Paysite Design

We don't mind that it smells of Fish 'n' Chips in beer batter

Roald · 12-04-2002, 04:10 AM

Interesting thread

CDSmith · 12-04-2002, 04:29 AM

As I said to you on traci's board Darren.... there are <i>ALWAYS</i> two sides to every story. Well, three if you count the truth.

Hopefully anyone owing anything, money or designs, can make good on what they owe before christmas and everyone can put this behind them.

railz · 12-04-2002, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
Darren's money is good at Paysite Design

We don't mind that it smells of Fish 'n' Chips in beer batter

LOL Mate, you've not lived until you've gone out on the town with the boys and then stopped for a Kebab at 4am.

It's an English tradition

Although I never liked fish n' chips.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 12-04-2002, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz

LOL Mate, you've not lived until you've gone out on the town with the boys and then stopped for a Kebab at 4am.

It's an English tradition Although I never liked fish n' chips.

Toranna has 4am kebabs too !!! We wrap the bastards in a bun !

Street Meat is the mainstay of Martin's (Sarcastic-Bastards) diet

nike · 12-04-2002, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
Darren's money is good at Paysite Design

We don't mind that it smells of Fish 'n' Chips in beer batter

Darren has great taste.

...shit now I'm fucking hungry.

EscortBiz · 12-04-2002, 06:14 AM

please short this story up because myself and many others dont have time to read

volante · 12-04-2002, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
please short this story up because myself and many others dont have time to read

Lotsa people didn't get paid.
Lotsa people didn't get designs.
It's all the fault of Bibabi's ex-husband.

Naughty · 12-04-2002, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
I still find it hilarious that this Traci chick doesn't see a problem with paying someone a mere 400 bucks for a fucking top quality design, and giving him a 1000 dollar bonus for winning the ice cold cash competition.

In my opinion, that design was worth more than 1400 bucks to start with. The fact that you pocketed an extra 5100 dollars from it, for doing fuck all, is absolutely sickening.

David would have 7500 bucks if it wasn't for your greedy ass. I'll make damn sure i refer people to every thread about this entire fiasco whenever Liquid By Design is mentioned, in any way, shape or form.

Pathetic. You're scum.

1400 + 5100 = 7500

Quote:

Originally posted by ebizz
please short this story up because myself and many others dont have time to read

It's been done on page 1. by Drew.

Traci, if you are REALLY serious about your assets, sold the carS you are talking about (or at least one of them) and tried everything else to get some cash. Yet still don't have any, I can 'donate' 50$ for a small present for the twins. Hit me up on icq for your paypal account. I've been where your kids are and it sucks, even 20 years after.

Gary · 12-04-2002, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I dont see how one can point the finger at another for them 'losing' a home, and your children not having xmas.

Thats weak.

Ya, my kids arent having cristmas either, but its because i spent all the money on hookers and crack.

SR · 12-04-2002, 06:51 AM

Traci I guess you would have saved yourself alot of trouble if you would have been honest about your situation to the people you owed money.

Business is business and people should get paid. If you would have owed me money and you would have explained your situation I would have no problem with waiting for my money but if you would ignore me I would get pissed.

Not paying or not I hope that you and your kids will be okay after all.

chodadog · 12-04-2002, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty

1400 + 5100 = 7500

Haha, didn't even notice that. I really should read over my posts before i actually hit the reply button.

eroswebmaster · 12-04-2002, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
Darren's money is good at Paysite Design

We don't mind that it smells of Fish 'n' Chips in beer batter

But does it reach your designers' pockets?

dig420 · 12-04-2002, 02:58 PM

I got divorced and all my 12 kids have cancer *sniff*

fuck you pay me

Bobo · 12-04-2002, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary

Ya, my kids arent having cristmas either, but its because i spent all the money on hookers and crack.

You too eh?

bhutocracy · 12-04-2002, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Today, I had to tell my kids we were moving because of all this, that there is no Christmas, and I have no idea where we were going to live?. So you see in a week you managed to destroy the lives of a 17 year old, a 12 year old and my 6 year old twins you selfish bastard?

it's called personal responsibility. learn it. live it.

mastamindz · 12-04-2002, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
I got divorced and all my 12 kids have cancer *sniff*

fuck you pay me

wiseguys know how its done

12-04-2002, 03:44 AM	#52
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	ok my last post on this entire fiasco. I feel I had the right to post regarding my designs due to the fact they are over a month late and still not done, I did STRESS to you Traci that the orginal design I gave you needed to be done by the end of November, you even took on more work from me because you said you could get it done It is about 60 days+ now from the start of the project and I have had NO communication from yourself, I have tried to discuss this many times with you. This is MY only rift with you, I have lost money big time because I have been telling affiliates the new site will be ready in November when in fact i still do not have them in December. This is all true as you know and saying you are going to sue me because of writing the truth is laughable. This situation is to neither of our liking. Regarding you not paying designers and claiming you did not get paid by the guys at IceColdCash affected me because the designer would not finish my work until you had paid him, that is why I got involved. All the accusations regarding that where NOT made by me but by several designers. Regarding your holiday in an e-mail to IceColdCash thanking them you said with the prize money you would be going on holiday. That is where that came from. I am sorry about your problems, truly am, but you made empty promises to me and after 60+ days of waiting and trying to contact you and being told i couldnt talk to you but i had to talk to someone called swift who then disapeared because a family member died and then BuckNaked showed no signs of doing my design it was all very annoying and costing me money. I e-mailed and ICQed u every day for a week saying i would be posting if this wasnt cleared up. My ONLY problem with you is the designs and the fact you didnt stick to the deadline. I paid you up front $1,650 via international wire from the UK obviously there is a 2-3 business day delay because of this. The agreed price on the designs was $3000 for all 3 sites that obviously included discount for bulk work, your calculations are wrong because you have listed the jobs on an indivdual basis even though we agreed a bulk price. I paid OVER 50%, the 2 site designs which I now have 2 weeks after the deadline are simplistic compared to the main site design Mens-Network. Mens-Network was $1500 as originally quoted on its own. It is Mens-Network I do not have. You accuse me off some how wrecking your family, well i could accuse you of wrecking my business. This is all so childish. The GFY post contained other designers saying u have never paid them, that is their problem with you. Again I am sorry about your family troubles, I do NOT like to conduct business on the boards and I have MANY MANY friends in this industry who I have worked successfully with in the past and this is my first problem of this nature. You have my ICQ and my E-mail and my phone number, this entire eposide is due to me not getting any communication from yourself, I am not an heartless bastard but if I do not know what is going on and I am being fed alot of bullshit then I can only make my conclusions from that. Much love Darren - To see the actual e-mails etc and quotes from private gold, me and the designers Traci do a search for Liquid Design it will come up as the first post. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817 Last edited by Darren; 12-04-2002 at 03:54 AM..

12-04-2002, 03:56 AM	#53
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12-04-2002, 04:08 AM	#56
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	Darren's money is good at Paysite Design We don't mind that it smells of Fish 'n' Chips in beer batter __________________

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12-04-2002, 03:43 AM	#51
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12-04-2002, 03:57 AM	#54
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I still find it hilarious that this Traci chick doesn't see a problem with paying someone a mere 400 bucks for a fucking top quality design, and giving him a 1000 dollar bonus for winning the ice cold cash competition. In my opinion, that design was worth more than 1400 bucks to start with. The fact that you pocketed an extra 5100 dollars from it, for doing fuck all, is absolutely sickening. David would have 7500 bucks if it wasn't for your greedy ass. I'll make damn sure i refer people to every thread about this entire fiasco whenever Liquid By Design is mentioned, in any way, shape or form. Pathetic. You're scum.

12-04-2002, 04:29 AM	#58
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12-04-2002, 06:51 AM	#66
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Traci I guess you would have saved yourself alot of trouble if you would have been honest about your situation to the people you owed money. Business is business and people should get paid. If you would have owed me money and you would have explained your situation I would have no problem with waiting for my money but if you would ignore me I would get pissed. Not paying or not I hope that you and your kids will be okay after all.

12-04-2002, 02:58 PM	#69
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	I got divorced and all my 12 kids have cancer sniff fuck you pay me