Did all Smart Thumbs TGPs just get dropped from Google? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

alias · 06-19-2009, 03:52 PM

50 google assholes

halfpint · 06-19-2009, 03:54 PM

make tubes.. google loves them

dready · 06-19-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

most likely all the hard links back to smart-thumbs.com from horribly shitty sites that are basically link farms to begin with probably became the common thread to have all those sites with those links tank.

topical relevance between smart-scripts.com and "smart thumbs" as the anchor and "shemale cock" and its content on shemalecock.com to a search engine algorithm? = 0

there could be another explanation, but it would seem that a likely common thread is the hard link back to smart scripts. first and foremost, google looks at linking relationships between pages.

I don't think this is the issue. Many of the big sites that got hit didn't have a link to smart-scripts.

SiMpLe · 06-19-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

make tubes.. google loves them

So does Bing

alias · 06-19-2009, 03:59 PM

All they have to identify is the domain.com/st the link back for free users is just extra ammo.

Why would Google want to ruin smart-scripts business like this. Don't be evil my ass, they should have made the slogan don't be douchebags. But then they couldn't pull stunts like this.

st0ned · 06-19-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe

So does Bing

Think bing is the reason google is making these changes? I mean sure bing isn't going to take google at #1 but I am sure google has seen a decrease since the launch of bing. I mean even if only 1 in every 1,000 searchers switched their homepage to bing, that's a big chunk overall. I sure have been watching my bing traffic rise, I can only assume those surfers came from using google originally.

Doesn't make much sense but what really would google have against ST sites as a whole? Seems like one of the more drastic changes google has made, effecting adult webmasters anyway, and it comes shortly after the launch of bing. This is definitely an eye opener, time to start on some new custom scripts, diversify current scripts, etc.

halfpint · 06-19-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe

So does Bing

You can use Bing to your advantage submit your movie sites here http://www.bing.com/webmaster and thank me later

redwhiteandblue · 06-19-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by st0ned

Think bing is the reason google is making these changes?

Been wondering that these last couple of hours. Dropping lots of TGPs down will make room for more tubes, would they really do that so suddenly?

HEAT · 06-19-2009, 04:15 PM

$5 submissions · 06-19-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

When you type your site's name, it should come up as #1. Even that has dropped to page 6.

Damn that's raw.

StickyGreen · 06-19-2009, 04:46 PM

Sites using smart thumbs are obviously being penalized for something. It's not just the niche keywords that the sites are dropping for, they are also dropping for when someone searches for the domain name, and that is fucked up.

Someone needs to figure this shit out because switching thumb scripts would be a big pain in the ass to do to say the least.

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 04:59 PM

http://www.search-internetmarketing....age-6-penalty/

dready · 06-19-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

http://www.search-internetmarketing....age-6-penalty/

That's obviously what happened. Everyone using ST got a page 6 penalty. That means Google thinks something about ST is in violation of their guidelines.

Jdoughs · 06-19-2009, 05:07 PM

That is a shitty link, it tells nothing about what happened.

The -60 penalty is associated with bad inbound links, purchased links, or link farms(too many outbounds).

2012 · 06-19-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

http://www.search-internetmarketing....age-6-penalty/

* Do not fill your website with keywords (keyword spamming) ( no title and alt tag anymore ? )

*If your website is participating in an affiliate program make sure your website provides good relevant content for the user in mind and not just a doorway page ( like st.php ? )

*Dont exchange links with other websites ( those automated link trading and thunderballs are probably next or part of the problem )

*Try to avoid linking to spammy websites and ?Bad neighbourhoods?
-* Dont have web pages that have hidden programs as phishing, viruses, trojans or other badware ( i noticed if you had or linked to traffic holder or sites that do mcassfe antivirus has been giving virus errors for a bit )

* Make sure your website loads in a reasonable speed, check your server isn?t over loaded ( too many thumbs ?)

* Dont advertise the fact that you sell links on your website ( big no no ) ...

* It's googles search engine

so maybe they just figured you did most of the above if you ran ST an easy way to pluck out sites and make an example

?

Basic_man · 06-19-2009, 05:13 PM

This is a sad day in the internet porn history !

brassmonkey · 06-19-2009, 05:19 PM

damn R.I.P.

ThumbLord · 06-19-2009, 05:20 PM

TGP's are out, Tubes are in.
easy as that, but then again it could be the script, nah do not think so.

HorseShit · 06-19-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

TGP's are out, Tubes are in.
easy as that, but then again it could be the script, nah do not think so.

How come there are no users of other TGP scripts in here complaining?

d-null · 06-19-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

make tubes.. google loves them

the sad truth

but make "illegal" tubes, because google will love them more than the legal ones pretty soon when all the "legal" ones with sponsor hosted 2 minute clips will end up getting this kind of page 6 google penalty

it is a sick internet world we live in

dready · 06-19-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

TGP's are out, Tubes are in.
easy as that, but then again it could be the script, nah do not think so.

So far, only people running ST are seeing this penalty.

SBJ · 06-19-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

When you type your site's name, it should come up as #1. Even that has dropped to page 6.

yup sure enough my 2 ST sites dropped back 6 pages when they were good keywords

Funny thing is overall on one term i'm not lossing all traffic cause the first page of that term is full of my non ST free sites that link to this site so I am still getting SE for that term just not to the site i intended

EonBlue · 06-19-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

So far, only people running ST are seeing this penalty.

But not everyone who runs ST. Check out this particular keyword search:

teen stockings

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 06:25 PM

maybe google did a symbolic blasting of porn sites via st to please china:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/10f5984e-5...44feabdc0.html

According to state media on Friday, authorities said Google was being “punished” for linking to pornographic content.

HorseShit · 06-19-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue

But not everyone who runs ST. Check out this particular keyword search:

teen stockings

Yeah and? I don't think there's anyone running paid ST who are suffering from this.

dready · 06-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah and? I don't think there's anyone running paid ST who are suffering from this.

I know many who are, and were.

Agent 488 · 06-19-2009, 06:31 PM

actually just did a search for a fetish serp - site that runs st still ranking well -

could be just bs.

Si · 06-19-2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah and? I don't think there's anyone running paid ST who are suffering from this.

Thats a good point.

The people posting drops should clarify if you are using Free or Paid.

If your using Free and have seen a drop then obviously thats the problem.

But,

If your using the Paid version and have been dropped aswell. then obviously it's the script.

I dunno i'm just calling it as i see it

Si · 06-19-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

I know many who are, and were.

who?.....

V_RocKs · 06-19-2009, 06:37 PM

Possible theory on seeing what replaced me... (an ST site is still ranked for teen tgp)...

The sites in question are not requiring recips with the terms I was ranked for... So TeenTiger is asking for Teen Tiger TGP...

I am asking specifically for Teen TGP.

I am thinking maybe we all were asking for terms and google did something that saw all of those links from the galleries as bad...

Possibly it is because I have 20,000 such links but only 30 or so from any other sites index page. So perhaps good is now taking this into consideration...

Then again... doesn't seem to be effecting Comus or anyone else...

V_RocKs · 06-19-2009, 06:38 PM

I use both... and both were effected equally...

Ohh... and my free version site doesn't even accept submissions so that cannot be it (post above this one).

EonBlue · 06-19-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah and? I don't think there's anyone running paid ST who are suffering from this.

All of my ST copies are paid and all of my sites dropped.

stevo · 06-19-2009, 06:41 PM

I use AutoGallery SQL, my search engine traffic has increased 5x just from today...

StickyGreen · 06-19-2009, 06:43 PM

Is it just a coincidence that all these ST sites are dropping in ranks?

Or could there be something else in common between all these dropped sites that we aren't thinking of?

Titan · 06-19-2009, 06:46 PM

All of my smart thumbs copies are paid. One site got the page 6 penalty. The other two did not, but my feeling is that they don't have thumbs directly on the main page. They have big thumb category image that link to sub pages.

Titan · 06-19-2009, 06:49 PM

Its definitely just smart thumbs. I haven't seen any reports from other scripts. Google probably thinks its duplicate content or something dumb.

StickyGreen · 06-19-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan

Its definitely just smart thumbs. I haven't seen any reports from other scripts. Google probably thinks its duplicate content or something dumb.

So is there any way that someone could contact Google and get this cleared up?

Si · 06-19-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I use both... and both were effected equally...

Ohh... and my free version site doesn't even accept submissions so that cannot be it (post above this one).

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue

All of my ST copies are paid and all of my sites dropped.

Shit

dready · 06-19-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

So is there any way that someone could contact Google and get this cleared up?

Only way I know, unless someone has an in...
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=35843

Blackamooka · 06-19-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

Only way I know, unless someone has an in...
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...y?answer=35843

Yeah, good luck with that....

Jdoughs · 06-19-2009, 07:20 PM

Penalties are reversible, you just need to understand why you were penalized and fix it.

Penalty is NOT a banning, huge difference.

mpahlca · 06-19-2009, 07:20 PM

I would suggest all people using smart thumbs pull it asap or change the url structure, its the url and script structure. making pages look identical

woj · 06-19-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

So is there any way that someone could contact Google and get this cleared up?

good luck with that...

Blackamooka · 06-19-2009, 07:34 PM

It actually wouldn't surprise me at all if Google started penalizing trade scripts at some point. Circle jerking surfers to boost traffic doesn't really seem to fit their philosophy of creating the best content for surfers. I hope it's just a fluke, I'm just saying...

Drake · 06-19-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiMpLe

One of my whales lost 45k in google traffic daily - /cry for both of us

omg

Supz · 06-19-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

Pleasurepays: What's page 6 indicative of?

I think its just the fact that its not page #1 is what they mean.

dready · 06-19-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supzdotcom

I think its just the fact that its not page #1 is what they mean.

Do a Google search for -60 penalty.

Iron Fist · 06-19-2009, 08:10 PM

Guess i'm glad I custom design all my TGPs... and you can't tell what i'm running in the background.

Pleasurepays · 06-19-2009, 08:13 PM

this is interesting. seems to be a variation of the 950 penalty. maybe they just stopped moving the page to the back and to somewhere where the webmaster is likely to find it and fix it... since other pages didn't actually end up as the 950th result.

i have the free version on a lot of domains that we used to just make live until we are ready to use the domains. i am not a tgp guy and don't run tgps.

one interesting thing i see is that some domains have ZERO text and zero outbound links (besides images linking to galleries and the smart thumbs link) and are penalized. so.. that tells me that all the usual "over-optimization" issues as the cause is not whats going on.

i'm not interested enough to dig into this but i can say with authority that tgp sites and link directories are essentially spam sites/link farms. by that i mean simply that you can't really tell me what the difference is between the average auto-generated page of 2000 and the 50 smart thumbs sites you can set up in an afternoon. tgps add the ridiculousness of blind links etc which also don't provide the best user experience. they are both essentially the same from a search engine standpoint and separated only by the quality of hard links linking in.

not clue why this seems to be happening with so many ST sites ... but i can say with absolute certainty that the typical tgp is doomed regardless. if not today... then next month, next year or whenever. they simply aren't the best result for any phrase other than "Keyword Pic's", "Keyword Photos" etc. and that fact will ultimately be reflected in search results. its just a matter of time.

SBJ · 06-19-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

Guess i'm glad I custom design all my TGPs... and you can't tell what i'm running in the background.

ya this is what i do on my 13 out of 15 tgps and sorts but all those sites are non skim sites and these 2 new sites i wanted to do skim sites so i went with ST

and for the record both my 2 are under 2 mos old and had the number 1 spots for the titles of the sites and neither sites accepted submits and were all just fhgs and galleries i made up and they are both listed on page 6 of google now

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alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	All they have to identify is the domain.com/st the link back for free users is just extra ammo. Why would Google want to ruin smart-scripts business like this. Don't be evil my ass, they should have made the slogan don't be douchebags. But then they couldn't pull stunts like this. __________________ https://porncorporation.com

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StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	Sites using smart thumbs are obviously being penalized for something. It's not just the niche keywords that the sites are dropping for, they are also dropping for when someone searches for the domain name, and that is fucked up. Someone needs to figure this shit out because switching thumb scripts would be a big pain in the ass to do to say the least. __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Possible theory on seeing what replaced me... (an ST site is still ranked for teen tgp)... The sites in question are not requiring recips with the terms I was ranked for... So TeenTiger is asking for Teen Tiger TGP... I am asking specifically for Teen TGP. I am thinking maybe we all were asking for terms and google did something that saw all of those links from the galleries as bad... Possibly it is because I have 20,000 such links but only 30 or so from any other sites index page. So perhaps good is now taking this into consideration... Then again... doesn't seem to be effecting Comus or anyone else...

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	I use both... and both were effected equally... Ohh... and my free version site doesn't even accept submissions so that cannot be it (post above this one).

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Titan Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: teencash.com Posts: 994	All of my smart thumbs copies are paid. One site got the page 6 penalty. The other two did not, but my feeling is that they don't have thumbs directly on the main page. They have big thumb category image that link to sub pages. __________________ TEEN CASH - EXCLUSIVE TEEN NICHE REALITY SITES Check out our Newest Site: Teen Porno Pass - Free Hosted Galleries, Flash Galleries, Tube Content, & Great Support Sample Galleries: Movie Gallery 1 Flash Gallery 1 Pic Gallery 1

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06-19-2009, 08:13 PM	#99
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	this is interesting. seems to be a variation of the 950 penalty. maybe they just stopped moving the page to the back and to somewhere where the webmaster is likely to find it and fix it... since other pages didn't actually end up as the 950th result. i have the free version on a lot of domains that we used to just make live until we are ready to use the domains. i am not a tgp guy and don't run tgps. one interesting thing i see is that some domains have ZERO text and zero outbound links (besides images linking to galleries and the smart thumbs link) and are penalized. so.. that tells me that all the usual "over-optimization" issues as the cause is not whats going on. i'm not interested enough to dig into this but i can say with authority that tgp sites and link directories are essentially spam sites/link farms. by that i mean simply that you can't really tell me what the difference is between the average auto-generated page of 2000 and the 50 smart thumbs sites you can set up in an afternoon. tgps add the ridiculousness of blind links etc which also don't provide the best user experience. they are both essentially the same from a search engine standpoint and separated only by the quality of hard links linking in. not clue why this seems to be happening with so many ST sites ... but i can say with absolute certainty that the typical tgp is doomed regardless. if not today... then next month, next year or whenever. they simply aren't the best result for any phrase other than "Keyword Pic's", "Keyword Photos" etc. and that fact will ultimately be reflected in search results. its just a matter of time. Last edited by Pleasurepays; 06-19-2009 at 08:15 PM..