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Old 06-05-2009, 12:57 PM   #1
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:stop Barack Obama indeed turned complex M.E. reality into simple truth

After many years finally an American president spoke in an inspiring manner that sparked, for a moment at least, a glimmer of hope to all nations in Middle East.

I think the deep truths can be told in very simple words and touch the heart of many- when you speak form the heart in a way you touch others hearts, this is what Obama did

The big question is ; How does Obama hope to accomplish his ?new start?? He has broken his promise of bringing ALL troops back home from Iraq? Why should muslims trust him, when he can?t even keep his promises to Americans?

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It is hard to believe any man who says he wants peace when he is killing innocent people in a country you are not at war with.
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Obama is an ugly black muslim puppet homosexual who should be hanged.
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He's gone gay?
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The big question is ; How does Obama hope to accomplish his ?new start?? He has broken his promise of bringing ALL troops back home from Iraq? Why should muslims trust him, when he can?t even keep his promises to Americans?
what are you talking about? He has ordered the withdrawal of troops and as he said in the speech they will all be gone by 2012. What... you think he could withdraw 150,000+ troops and equipment in 5 months?
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It is hard to believe any man who says he wants peace when he is killing innocent people in a country you are not at war with.
Exactly.

I watched that speech and when he said we were after the extremist because they killed 3000 innocent Americans, I almost puked. We have SLAUGHTERED 100s of 1000s of innocent Iraqis and countless Afghanis.

Bush was a war criminal, Obama is a war criminal.

The USA deserves any attack that comes its way. You reap what you sow and right now the American government and military is sowing a huge garden of shit that we will have to eat sooner or later.
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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
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what are you talking about? He has ordered the withdrawal of troops and as he said in the speech they will all be gone by 2012. What... you think he could withdraw 150,000+ troops and equipment in 5 months?
He is full of shit. He said we are removing "combat brigades" yet they are just renaming other groups and are claiming they are only there to train the Iraqis.

And what about the PMC's like Black Water? No mention of PMC's hired by the US government to do the dirty work they can not do. So yea, withdraw American troops and leave the mercs who do not have to follow ANY rules of engagement. Brilliant fucking idea. The stats about how many innocent civilians are murdered in cold blood by mercs seems to never make the news. Why is that?

It's all one big fucking joke. Obama is just another porch ni**er blowing smoke up everyones ass.
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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
Yet America does not ask that very question.

Trojan horse. That's all I'm gonna say.
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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
Yes of course, because religious beliefs are genetic.

It's just not possible for a person to have differing religious beliefs than their parents. Especially when they were raised mosty by their grandparents.

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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
Um well let's see my dad's side is Catholic my mom's side Baptist. I'm an atheist. Explain how that can be.
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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
Where do you live again?

Both of my parents are devout christians... my step dad is a preacher... I am an atheist.
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He has broken his promise of bringing ALL troops back home from Iraq? Why should muslims trust him, when he can?t even keep his promises to Americans?
Please show me the quote where he promised to bring all troops back home from Iraq.

Also, please find in that quote where he said it would be done on or before June 5, 2009. Since this fictional promise you say he made can't be broken if the timeline for fulfilling said fictional promise hasn't yet passed.

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Trojan horse. That's all I'm gonna say.
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Obama is a two bit snake oil salesman who lies whenever his lips are moving. Anyone who finds his cascade of platitudes inspiring is almost certainly mentally challenged.
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Yes of course, because religious beliefs are genetic.

It's just not possible for a person to have differing religious beliefs than their parents. Especially when they were raised mosty by their grandparents.

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That really makes you credible.
OK, maybe that was a little harsh, but I'm very upset with him.

All jokes aside, he's just another puppet. I think that's clear now.

My fear came true. That fear was that he was such an AMAZING speaker and personality, that people got caught up in the Obama craze and did not vote for the best man for the job. He has zero experience running anything and he was put in the highest office to run the country. Now he is going to continue the Bush mess and drive the country deeper into shit.

He has a lot of great ideas but no way to make them happen. No real plan other that keep giving great speeches.
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If obama's biological father is Muslim and his stepfather was muslim and his mother was an atheist, how is it that barak is christian?

Im not saying barak hussein obama is a muslim... what I'm wondering is? how he is not? If Islam goes by the father as Judaism goes by the mother.
Are you fucking serious??? LOL

So because someones parents are a certain religion he has to be the same?

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It's just not possible for a person to have differing religious beliefs than their parents. Especially when they were raised mosty by their grandparents.

:rollseyes
He's a closet Muslim.
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Um well let's see my dad's side is Catholic my mom's side Baptist. I'm an atheist. Explain how that can be.
A person can convert or be a atheist but he didn't convert to Christianity and he didn't say he is atheist either, but lately he is very pro-islam.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

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Wow, "America deserves whatever attacks come their way" ??

DWB, welcome to my ignore list. Hope, that we never meet in person. If you're ever at the same show as me, PLEASE come say that to my face.

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That's what my old man used to tell me every day.
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A person can convert or be a atheist but he didn't convert to Christianity and he didn't say he is atheist either, but lately he is very pro-islam.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

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Lately he is very pro-islam?


Palin? Is that you? Tits or gtfo.
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A person can convert or be a atheist but he didn't convert to Christianity and he didn't say he is atheist either, but lately he is very pro-islam.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

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Really?

Damn, so he took all that flack over his Christian pastor Jeremiah Wright who baptized him and his daughters for nothing?

Damn. That's fucked up. He sure took alot of heat over a pastor who isn't even the same religion as him.
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Now he is going to continue the Bush mess and drive the country deeper into shit.
I don't think that reality matches your assertion here... there may be a couple of Bush policies that Obama has kept for now... but Bush WAS a president... so why would Obama overturn them all. As far as I can see... in 5 months he has already accomplished quite a bit.

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I am not sure why you think he can't make things happen... he already has.
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I'm not saying it is true or not, or if there is a rumor he is muslim or not.

What I'm saying is that he is very Pro-Islam lately and his Cairo speech shows it very good.
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A person can convert or be a atheist but he didn't convert to Christianity and he didn't say he is atheist either, but lately he is very pro-islam.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

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Pro-Islam??? WTF are you on about? please enlighten us

Because the man is trying to mend relations means he is pro-islam?

Step away from the keyboard you are making yourself out to be a fool.
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Wow, "America deserves whatever attacks come their way" ??

DWB, welcome to my ignore list. Hope, that we never meet in person. If you're ever at the same show as me, PLEASE come say that to my face.
Yea, and you will what, punch me out? Right. Just like all the other keyboard warriors have punched out other webmasters.

1) I don't want to see harm done to anyone, but my point is that when it comes, and it will come, it will be well deserved for the actions that have been taking place.

2) The USA has invaded the Muslim world and is slaughtering innocent people every day. American troops and PMC's have MURDERED more innocent people that the terrorists ever did. The United States military has become the largest terrorist group in the history of the world, thanks for George Bush and continued with Obama, both war criminals.

I'll say it again, the USA will reap what it sows. They are breeding new terrorists every day, every new attack, every innocent person they murder, every Muslim prisoner they torture and humiliate. How fucking hard is that to see?

3) I moved out of the USA for a reason. I no longer believe in it. I tell people I meet now that I am from Canadian because I'm sadly ashamed to say I'm from the United States, the largest terrorist organization on earth.

So yea, please add me to your ignore list and keep believing the shit you are force fed every day about your glorious, can do no wrong, they hate us for our freedoms country. Maybe after someone sets off a nuke in a major city, maybe, MAYBE, the tools that lead that country will come to the conclusion that they have killed one too many innocent Muslims.

3000 US citizens killed vs over 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed. Do the fucking math. Even a GFY idiot like yourself can see that this is going to bring serious trouble to the door steps of the USA, and it will be deserved. That's what happens to bullies. Sooner or later someone gives them a serious beat down.
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But I do believe that Obama is the Only One who can save Us Economy.

Obama's team has been careful to balance a message of hope with one of caution.

"We didn't get into this situation in a day or a week," Larry Summers has said, "And we're not going to get out of it in a day or a week." Which means it will take time to get out of all this mess but we will!
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Pro-Islam??? WTF are you on about? please enlighten us

Because the man is trying to mend relations means he is pro-islam?

Step away from the keyboard you are making yourself out to be a fool.
Did you listen to his 6000 words speech? Maybe you'll understand what I mean if you were listening to it.
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But I do believe that Obama is the Only One who can save Us Economy.

Obama's team has been careful to balance a message of hope with one of caution.

"We didn't get into this situation in a day or a week," Larry Summers has said, "And we're not going to get out of it in a day or a week." Which means it will take time to get out of all this mess but we will!
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3000 US citizens killed vs over 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed. Do the fucking math. Even a GFY idiot like yourself can see that this is going to bring serious trouble to the door steps of the USA, and it will be deserved. That's what happens to bullies. Sooner or later someone gives them a serious beat down.
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I don't think that reality matches your assertion here... there may be a couple of Bush policies that Obama has kept for now... but Bush WAS a president... so why would Obama overturn them all. As far as I can see... in 5 months he has already accomplished quite a bit.

I am not sure why you think he can't make things happen... he already has.
He is a great speaker and a big planner.

Hey, I hope he proves me wrong. I really do. But it takes a little more that the president saying he is going to do something in order for it to get done. Closing Gitmo without a plan? Come on. Saying he is going to pull out combat brigades from Iraq but failing to say he is just changing the names for the troops he is leaving there and he is NOT ordering out the private military groups who have done more murdering than anyone and is hired by the US government, it's all just laughable. He is blowing serious smoke up everyone's ass right now and the world is eating it up, just like they did during the election.

He is one of the best showmen in US history. I'll give him that.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:03 PM   #43
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But I do believe that Obama is the Only One who can save Us Economy.!
Obama has nothing to do with it. All he is going to do is print and borrow more money to put a band-aid on the real problem.

This is WAY bigger than Obama.

With that said, this has been a long time coming. Again, the world is reaping what it has sowed, just on a economic level. And it's going to get much worse than this. We may stick a band-aid on it, but the pain has yet to come.


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Old 06-05-2009, 02:08 PM   #44
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He has a lot of great ideas but no way to make them happen. No real plan other that keep giving great speeches.
Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news, how can he have no way to not make them happen? I he not the US president? If that means he has no way to make them happen....

I know what you're saying though - he has plans, but no idea how to implement them, but then again isn't that what advisor's are for? Isn't that what his appointed employees are for?

If you want an idea as to what a guy who knows how to speak well can do, and how dangerous he can be, look toward France. In his first 10 months, he did very little, but once all the pieces were in place, the tornado arrived without relent.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like his pieces are being put into play before the real game begins.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:14 PM   #45
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3000 US citizens killed vs over 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed.
I want to be clear on this, when I say OVER, I mean way over.

Some reports are saying it could be 100,000 - 1,000,000, as they are finding many more dead that are first reported.

This can not be dismissed as Casualties Of War. This is borderline genocide.

Over 2 million displaced Iraqi refugees who have had to leave their country. Some reports say around 20,000 Iraqis have been detained by US forces.

And they want us to believe it's all over 3000 Americans and WMDs?

It's madness. Where does it end?
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Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news, how can he have no way to not make them happen? I he not the US president? If that means he has no way to make them happen....

I know what you're saying though - he has plans, but no idea how to implement them, but then again isn't that what advisor's are for? Isn't that what his appointed employees are for?

If you want an idea as to what a guy who knows how to speak well can do, and how dangerous he can be, look toward France. In his first 10 months, he did very little, but once all the pieces were in place, the tornado arrived without relent.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like his pieces are being put into play before the real game begins.
Perhaps he CAN make some things happen, and I'm sure he will. I hope he does! But right now, he is making promises his ass can't keep. His ideas and plans have to be voted on. Just because he wants to do something, it doesn't mean he can do it. There are checks and balances in place for this very reason. Though, Bush didn't seem to worry about those so perhaps Obama won't either.

I was rooting for him out of the gate. And when I hear him talk, I think he is brilliant. But in reality, he has never be in charge of anything and now he's running the nation.

However, I think him reaching out to the Muslim world is a very good idea. The USA is going to need all the Muslim ass kissing he can do over the next few years. He needs to be kissing everyones ass, and he is doing so. So maybe, just maybe it will pay off in the end. Buuuut.... just in time for some other dip shit to take office and screw it all up again.
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There are checks and balances in place for this very reason.
As there are in lots of other countries, but it doesn't stop someone with an ability to charm to go lobbying with a big bait.... that is how the locks are broken down
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Did you listen to his 6000 words speech? Maybe you'll understand what I mean if you were listening to it.
I heard bits and pieces of it. In no way shape or form did he say he is pro-islam. He is trying to mend relations, thats all.
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Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news...
That is one good thing about not living there. I get news from all over the world and they often tell a very different story than American media. There is no censor on many of these stations, showing blood and guts sometimes. It's gnarly. But some of the reporting is incredible as well as the stories they run.

Also, because of where I am, I happen to have contact with guys who work for PMCs in both Afghanistan and Iraq, who come to Thailand for holiday. Some of the stories these guys tell, OMFG, and some of the photos and video they bring with them, OMFGx2. It paints a totally different picture than what Americans believe is going on. It's a mess and it's down right brutal murder. And when the US military can't do it, they bring in the mercs to do it. It's all just horrible.
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