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Old 11-28-2002, 09:52 AM   #1
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:mad Content, annoying to shop for!

Why are content people so fucking paranoid? Just put a fucking sample movie on your site. I don't want to fill out your fucking forms and wait for a fucking password!

Then besides the paranoia, all the content is shit. Then when you find movies you like, they don't want to sell you them in mpeg format. No wonder there is so much content theft. It's too much of a pain in the ass to buy.

If there is anyone that has studio quality hardcore mpegs that are editable please list them here.

Ahh, that feels better.
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Old 11-28-2002, 09:54 AM   #2
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I'm looking for full length and 1 minute mpegs that I can cut into 15 second versions. I want them good quality. Like straight from a DVD. Major studio stuff. Please! I don't know how much longer I'm gonna make it.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:06 AM   #3
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I agree. Content sellers that require you to register before you even get to see their previews are crap. I don't bother anymore.

All I want to see is the previews of the content they're selling. If I want to buy then I can understand having to register, but not just to see the previews. I'm still getting spam from content providers that I registered with like 2 years ago. All they wanna do is spam you until you die from spam overload! Spaaaaaam!

Imagine if you had to register your personal info at McDonald's before you could see what they were selling? Lame.

The really stupid thing is how I've been hearing from almost every content provider that I know that sales are down. Hello? Maybe you should get rid of the requirement to register just to see previews of what your selling.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:25 AM   #4
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Well said Brown Bear.

I now get 7 or 8 spams a day from them! My journey has been a long and pointless one.

Any content guys care to comment on the paranoia issue? Take a long look in the mirror and tell yourself...."Why am I so paranoid?", "Maybe if I showed people my content I could make a sale!", "Maybe I should get quality content.","If I got quality movies, I would be the only one who does!"
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:44 AM   #5
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Only reason why we ask to register before getting the previews is because we offer video previews of all our stuff and it would cost a lot of money in bandwidth because of the surfer. When you got "adult content" in your domain name, it bring you a lot of free riders ;)
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:54 AM   #6
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you dont have to register at our site ( www.jfteroticcontent.com )
- because we know it fucks people off if you just want to get in quickly and look around.

altho' at the moment we dont have any hardcore or mpegs uploaded cos we're currently in the process of switching servers from UK (where hardcore shit is illegal) to Amsterdam (where anything fucking goes!!!!)...

have a look around, we're pretty new - so any suggestions would be helpful and most appreciated.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:58 AM   #7
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Only reason why we ask to register before getting the previews is because we offer video previews of all our stuff and it would cost a lot of money in bandwidth because of the surfer. When you got "adult content" in your domain name, it bring you a lot of free riders ;)
I've heard this excuse many times before. It's weak. It's not like your promoting your content sites to TGP traffic. Do you really get that much surfer traffic to your site? I don't believe it.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:59 AM   #8
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Only reason why we ask to register before getting the previews is because we offer video previews of all our stuff and it would cost a lot of money in bandwidth because of the surfer. When you got "adult content" in your domain name, it bring you a lot of free riders ;)
Fred don't be so silly these guys think our sites should be totally open to any one who wants to view them. So Shaggy as I see it, you want us to add to the free porn available on the net?

Brown Bear our sales rise every month, so no complaints about the market from us. Plus if any one wants to come of our list they need only email me. The weekly updates bring in a lot of business and the sharp buyer wants to know what is new and hot. And not go trawling around in the hope of finding something. Most of our clients actually ask to be kept updated.

But then what do I know about selling, I've only been in sales, and not just porn, since 1974.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:05 AM   #9
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Only reason why we ask to register before getting the previews is because we offer video previews of all our stuff and it would cost a lot of money in bandwidth because of the surfer. When you got "adult content" in your domain name, it bring you a lot of free riders ;)
Exactly - and if you saw the sales and traffic I get to our Paysites from the Content Site tracked through our affiliate system you'd be understanding things from my perspective.

Additionally if you have recieved a spam from Sweet Erotica I'd love to see it.

This is one of those reoccuring threads which you already know the answer too. So flame on!
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:14 AM   #10
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Charly, that's the weakest excuse since the bandwidth excuse that Brown Bear pointed out.

You guys don't get 50,000 people a day. Don't cry about bandwidth. Don't cry about giving away free porn. Webmasters are the only one intentionally trying to find your sites.

You are paranoid and you are promoting the stealing of your own products. I'm sick of hearing you guys whine about people stealing your products when you make it so undesirable to shop for.

If you sell movies, you could make a 10-15 second clip of each one you offer without making people jump through a bunch of hoops. Even a 5 second one. I just want an idea of the quality. Get real with your silly excuses. I personally think it's sheep mentality. One of the first guys to sell content made people jump through hoops so you guys thought it was what you're supposed to do.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:17 AM   #11
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Not everyone has a week to shop for content. It's already expensive on our pocket books, we can't afford for it to be expensive with our time also.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:21 AM   #12
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you dont have to register at our site ( www.jfteroticcontent.com )
- because we know it fucks people off if you just want to get in quickly and look around.

altho' at the moment we dont have any hardcore or mpegs uploaded cos we're currently in the process of switching servers from UK (where hardcore shit is illegal) to Amsterdam (where anything fucking goes!!!!)...

have a look around, we're pretty new - so any suggestions would be helpful and most appreciated.

If I were looking for pics, I would like this site. Good job.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:45 AM   #13
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i have "adult content" in my name but do not see any substantial levels of traffic from surfers as a result.

i do not require a password but then again i don't sell movies, which if i did, I would reconsider putting up a password entry.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:03 PM   #14
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Content providers should all at least have an Adult Check entrance. Nearly every webmaster I know has had an AC site at one time or another.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:54 PM   #15
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You sell a signup you get $35 bucks. You sell a movie you get $250 bucks.

I can guarantee you that it takes a shit load more band to sell the signup than it would from webmasters to sell the movie.

It's not a valid excuse, it's a shitty excuse. You can get bandwidth for .40 a gig now days. It's time to lighten up the security and make our shopping a little more enjoyable. I see movies I like from time to time, but I don't know where they came from. I tell ya, I'm getting more and more tempted.
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Old 11-28-2002, 01:16 PM   #16
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Not everyone has a week to shop for content. It's already expensive on our pocket books, we can't afford for it to be expensive with our time also.
Then go with the update emails and see what is new before you waste time searching for it.

Maybe you could afford it if you spent more time promoting your site and less time searching out what was new and suitable to your needs.

Thanks for backing me up on that one.
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Old 11-28-2002, 03:15 PM   #17
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Well........ you wont have that problem with us. I have DVD content and mpegs.

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Old 11-28-2002, 04:01 PM   #18
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Shaggy,

I agree. Buying content is a pain. Some content providers would really need to take a marketing course. Not just the login info you hafta fill in and then store it for the future use (which takes time I don't have), but also the lack of preview material that some have. Some don't even know how to protect their material...

And the bullshit about BW?

I guess it's just the same as with any other net biz. Some know how to sell, others don't. Being a content provider obviously makes no diffence.

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Old 11-28-2002, 05:13 PM   #19
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Well said McSpike.

Hopefully these guys are taking notes. I've got a headache now. Must quit looking.
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I just realised one of the other reasons we need you to log in.

We have our shopping basket on a database, so it needs to recognises each individual client. Which allows them to put sets they like into their basket to pay for at a later date (If money is tight) and warns them if they go to buy the same set twice. Must be murder trying to keep track of 1,000s of sets to make sure you do not buy the same one twice.

It also helps with the billing, confirmation and FTP process.
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:21 PM   #21
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I think Shaggy is right though in essence. He is saying, ok, do the password protection, etc... just give me enough samples so I can know what I am spending my time on...

Most of us work 12 to 16 hour days and our time is VERY valuable. When you have 1 hour to FINALLY get around to getting that content or finding that sponsor, you have to sign up, HOPING they have good stuff, WAIT for the confirmation email, shit, by then, we dont have the time anymore or forgot entirely about that sponsor or content provider. And the emails are so spamtastic that they get lost with all the other stuff.

I for one am going to redo my sponsor and content area to at least have thumb samples and a few full size samples, and video clip samples. Then if they like my stuff, they can sign up and I bet the retention rate is 100 times higher.

Just my two cents. Good post Shaggy.
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:31 PM   #22
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Great post, when i search to buy content usually i skip the ones that i need to signup first, those ones are anoying and you lost a sale from me!
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:56 PM   #23
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exactly smileygirls, for example:

I'm looking for full length editable mpeg movies from major studios. I find this guy http://www.alvrs.com/rjb/cgi-bin/sho...scstore/search

So far, so good. I then click DVD - Anal and click go. Ok cool, I'll check out 100% Anal. Wow, a pic of the cover. Uhhh....wait a minute. Where the fuck are the samples?

This guy expects me to spend $279 on something I can't even see? Is he out of his fucking mind? What format are they? What if they are formatted as those tiny movies instead of the quality bigger size? How the fuck do I know without a sample?

So I email the guy, 12 hours later I get an email asking me a question that I already stated once in my first email. 24 hours goes by and he says he can get me plugin content. I ask him one more time if they come in mpeg and now I haven't heard back. Thanks for nothing. The only content I find that I like and the guy is incompetant. Just my luck.

To sum it up, if he would have a sample I probably would have order 3 days ago. But he's probably worried about bandwidth and contributing to extra free porn floating around. Give me a fucking break. It's moronic, it hurts my head.
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:59 PM   #24
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and this guy didn't make me sign forms, and wait for passwords. If he would've and this is what I got inside, I would be even more frustrated.

Annoying
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Shaggy with the guy you are talking about above I can see your point. But we are not that bad.
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Content shopping takes to much time for me but it must be done. No content to post is no $$
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Old 11-28-2002, 06:15 PM   #27
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Charly, I just saw your other post about giving $1000 content away. I entered your passwords and they were no good. WTF? Just more bs and more time wasted.
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Old 11-28-2002, 06:29 PM   #28
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I would like to comment on this as well

we require registration but the registration is instant and you can log in immediately


besides you can use this special entrance and view the samples without registration (enter twice if it is not working for first time)

and Shaggy we do have videos in mpeg - please contact me on 35570298 if you want to chat

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Nice site Cirrus, thanks for posting the "secret link". One problem though. I want movies. Under you movies section the only way I can sample them if with screenshots.

I'm not showing screenshots. I am showing movies.

How is a screenshot a substitute for a movie? Yes it shows me who's on the movie, but it doesn't say anything about actually quality and size of the movie. I will now take more time out of my day to ask you personally if I may see an actuall sample of the movie. This step could have easily been cut out of the whole process with a little 5 second sample.
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Click on the 100*100 thumb for that particular movie - there you can see 30 sec. wmv sample

- the screenshots are here in addition to the movie sample so you can see the whole scene

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for what it worth, I just skip those asking for my mail. Do you want to spam me? Then FIRST try to have decent material at decent prices, then MAYBE I'll buy something and then you'll have my mail. Either way, I'll delete any spam without reading it, so with the "give me all your information and MAYBE I'll give you access to my almighty content" way of doing things, you lost the sales and the chance to spam. And don't tell you don't want the addresses to spam, because I get spam from each and any contant provider I ever registered, not to mention those which I bought from, even when I always opt out. I'm not a big buyer, maybe 200-300 a month, but I'm sure there are hundreds of webmasters who act like me. At least, most of those who posted in this thread. Just do the maths Funny thing is that I was looking for content yesterday and thinking about posting exactly the same subject
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So Shaggy as I see it, you want us to add to the free porn available on the net?
How about put your content behind Adult Check or something like web-legal? It's also painful to dig out the email containing my pass a month later when I need more content. Forgot your password? Put your email address? Which email addy did i use the first time again?
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Nice site Cirrus, thanks for posting the "secret link". One problem though. I want movies. Under you movies section the only way I can sample them if with screenshots.

I'm not showing screenshots. I am showing movies.

How is a screenshot a substitute for a movie? Yes it shows me who's on the movie, but it doesn't say anything about actually quality and size of the movie. I will now take more time out of my day to ask you personally if I may see an actuall sample of the movie. This step could have easily been cut out of the whole process with a little 5 second sample.
My bad, his thumb was clickable to a movie sample. His site is great and I highly recommend it. The movies quality is brilliant and his customer service rocked.
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My bad, his thumb was clickable to a movie sample. His site is great and I highly recommend it. The movies quality is brilliant and his customer service rocked.
I should print and save this post, thanks Shaggy ;-)
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Old 11-28-2002, 08:11 PM   #35
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Yes, INSTANT login if you have sample movies inside that people can hotlink. but if you only have the small pic samples that you guys usually put up then you sure as hell don't need ANY registeration, its not like your supplying heaps of free porn to the surfers by giving them access to a bunch of thumbnails with no big images. And nobody is going to find your site as it is, its not like a surfers going to type

= Adultcontentsales.com into his webbrowser is it?

Guys, use an instant login feature, no normal surfer is going to login and give you a email address just so they can get into your SAMPLE page, but a webmaster that wants to buy $1000's of content will be happy to do just that and check your site out.

I mean whenever I visit a content provider and want to take a look inside I get to the signup page where it wants my full info and then it will give me a password. I am going to REALLY REALLY want to get inside other wise I just close it down and look elsewhere.

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Hi there,

In my shop you can look around without having a password. As soon as you find out that you like the thumbs you need a password to see the big samples. It works the same with our Mpeg movies.
You get a password after you filled in your name and your e-mail address. Is that to much work? Please tell me what you think about this system?

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The same goes for FREE sponsor content. Most sponsors make you sign up for there program before they let you check out the FREE content you have to offer. Not Join Right Now . We let you see the most excellent content before you sign up !

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