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Old 11-26-2002, 08:29 PM   #1
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Anyone need someone to submit their galleries?

Hello everyone,

I was just wondering if anyone here needed anyone to submit their TGP galleries for them for a set weekly/every 2 week payment.

This could give you time to focus on other things.

If you're interested, reply to this message or shoot me an email at [email protected]

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Old 11-27-2002, 01:49 AM   #2
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I just picked up one person. I have room for 2 more if anyone else is interested.

To clarify things, I would be hand submitting using G.A.S.S.

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Old 11-27-2002, 01:57 AM   #4
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Well,

If you've already got a G.A.S.S. database that you use, you could send me that and I will submit to your list.

If not, I can submit you to my current list with any modifications/additions you want.

Pricing depends on the amount of TGPs in the list.

If you're interested, you can either EMAIL or ICQ me, or if you'd like I could post the current list of TGPs here. A lot of typing but I am sure I will end up typing it up for someone anyways.

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Old 11-27-2002, 01:58 AM   #5
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Well,

If you've already got a G.A.S.S. database that you use, you could send me that and I will submit to your list.

If not, I can submit you to my current list with any modifications/additions you want.

Pricing depends on the amount of TGPs in the list.

If you're interested, you can either EMAIL or ICQ me, or if you'd like I could post the current list of TGPs here. A lot of typing but I am sure I will end up typing it up for someone anyways.

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That is one of the places, would you like me to type out a list of every TGP in the list?
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That is one of the places, would you like me to type out a list of every TGP in the list?
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:03 AM   #8
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:03 AM   #9
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So you are using someones elses program, and then charging people for you to use that program.

Youre gonna have problems.

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Old 11-27-2002, 02:16 AM   #11
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So you are using someones elses program, and then charging people for you to use that program.

Youre gonna have problems.

Can't see why. GASS is only a tool to aid hand submitting.

More worrying is the possible BL's people will get as it may look like spam with the same IP address showing up on multiple submits.

Either way though, tough way to make a living and boring as hell.
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:18 AM   #12
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I do not see how I could get in trouble, G.A.S.S. is paid for and is only to make hand submitting easier.

To get around the same IP address, each person I pick up would have a proxy assigned to them.

So whenever it's time to submit that persons galleries, I use that persons proxy. So everyone still gets their own galleries submitted from one IP address.
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:20 AM   #13
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That's OK if you're using very obscure proxies or you may find the same prob.

Good luck with it though. Like I say, rather you then me
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:21 AM   #14
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Using the GASS name is most likely enough to get you questioned.

YOu not oly use their software name to get jobs, you use it to get attention.

You dont see what I mean?

I wont scratch the surface for you.

Then go ahead an register GASSgalleryservice.com

and see if someone doesnt get upset.

Again, you dont see where I am coming from?

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Old 11-27-2002, 02:23 AM   #15
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:23 AM   #16
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Hello,

The proxy situation should not be a problem at all, and if it were to become one, then you can just stop paying me to submit you stuff.

In that case, I would email any TGPs giving you troubles and explain the situation to them. They should remove the blacklist. I wouldn't just leave you hanging.

I have been doing this for one person for quite some time now, and he seems happy with the results. If need be, you could contact him. I will only give out his information if he says it's OKay, which I am sure he will.

Won't post it on the board though, but could email/ICQ it to anyone needing it.
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Again, you dont see where I am coming from?
Nope. Haven't a clue. That's like saying adobe will get pissed if you say you use photoshop to design graphic stuff. Strange notion.
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It's probably the way I have my monitor set to cut back on the headaches from glare but it's more or less unreadable to me.
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Using the GASS name is most likely enough to get you questioned.

YOu not oly use their software name to get jobs, you use it to get attention.

You dont see what I mean?

I wont scratch the surface for you.

Then go ahead an register GASSgalleryservice.com

and see if someone doesnt get upset.

Again, you dont see where I am coming from?

All I said was that I would be using the software. I never said that I would get you a free copy, that I am affiliated with them, or that I have desires to register a domain name with their programs name in it.

Anyone can buy/download their software. I see no where that it says that it can not be used to submit more than one gallery a day.

What is the problem?
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Nope. Haven't a clue. That's like saying adobe will get pissed if you say you use photoshop to design graphic stuff. Strange notion.
There is a big difference between using a commercial product and using a program like GASS to offer services.

Have you notified the GASS owner and told him you are using his pre-gathered list of tgps to submit to others for money?

Is there not a 'commercial use' clause?

But go ahead, justify your 20 dollar business.

I can careless.

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Nope. Haven't a clue. That's like saying adobe will get pissed if you say you use photoshop to design graphic stuff. Strange notion.
Not even gonna bother. If you don't get it, I'm sure someone at GASS will explain it to you soon
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It is not the GASS premade list.

It is a list created by the person I submit galleries for.

Anyone can add a TGP to the list, how is this such a problem?
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Not even gonna bother. If you don't get it, I'm sure someone at GASS will explain it to you soon
They're welcome. Like I really give a fuck as I'm not gonna be sitting there hand submitting other peoples crap for a few bucks.

Best you don't bother really 'cause you both will continue to make absolutely no sense at all. Strangest idea I've ever heard - not being allowed to use a program for doing stuff it was designed to do. Perhaps reality shifted somewhere and you're both living in a different world from me.

Like I say though. Makes no diff. to me. Just struck me as a really daft idea that you shouldn't use it and still does.
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They're welcome. Like I really give a fuck as I'm not gonna be sitting there hand submitting other peoples crap for a few bucks.

"Other people's crap"? Wow - way to go to infuse your clients with optimisim and high-hopes for your "service".

I can just see the ICQ conversation now:

You: Yes, I can submit your crap for you. Will cost you $20 per gallery.

Client: It's not crap - these are good galleries.

You: All the same to me - it's just other people's crap anyway. Now pay me.

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Best you don't bother really 'cause you both will continue to make absolutely no sense at all.


Sorry - I was busy looking up something...

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Strangest idea I've ever heard - not being allowed to use a program for doing stuff it was designed to do. Perhaps reality shifted somewhere and you're both living in a different world from me.


This is from G.A.S.S V2 Install:

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I think you're renting this, right? I get all the benefits of using that program, but I never have to own it. Sounds like rent to me.
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tipsy wasn't the one offering the service, I was.
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Best you don't bother really 'cause you both will continue to make absolutely no sense at all. Strangest idea I've ever heard - not being allowed to use a program for doing stuff it was designed to do. Perhaps reality shifted somewhere and you're both living in a different world from me.
You really should know what you talk about before you do.

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tipsy wasn't the one offering the service, I was.
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You really should know what you talk about before you do.

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And I could very much say the same.

Seems Railz has really got lost though - guess he figures following you're lead will win him brownie points rather than reading a thread to have a clue what he's talking about.
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Give the guy a break, he is just looking for a fucking job. If you need someone like him, then give it a try and see if you get results. Otherwise just ignore his offer. I see no problem with someone using a program & hand submit galleries.

BTW you should give people an idea what you charge for this service.
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And I could very much say the same.

Seems Railz has really got lost though - guess he figures following you're lead will win him brownie points rather than reading a thread to have a clue what he's talking about.
Again, hey I can careless.

Email the Darksoft folks and tell them what youre doing, see if they care.

If not, I dont.

I just think it may cause problems.

My opinions created this argument.

Isnt it lovely?

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I'm aware of that.
Then your post makes even less sense.

Strange thread that I'm out of. Certainly too daft to be worth starting pissing matches over. Almost too early to have a beer but WTF gonna go open one I think and join the rest of you.
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Again, hey I can careless.

Email the Darksoft folks and tell them what youre doing, see if they care.

If not, I dont.

I just think it may cause problems.

My opinions created this argument.

Isnt it lovely?

We gotta both agree on that. Daft argument to get into and would have been far better to let the guy get on with it. Still, used up a boring 10 mins or so

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And I could very much say the same.

Seems Railz has really got lost though - guess he figures following you're lead will win him brownie points rather than reading a thread to have a clue what he's talking about.
LOL - brownie points for what?

I had exactly the same thought as Fletch and probably many other people did when G.A.S.S was mentioned. I'm sure that license clause covers that kind of deal, and if I dug deeper I'd probably find more.

I'll give you a hint - the license on the software is for one user, one computer, no rental or resale of use.

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Then your post makes even less sense.

Strange thread that I'm out of. Certainly too daft to be worth starting pissing matches over. Almost too early to have a beer but WTF gonna go open one I think and join the rest of you.
Then maybe you shouldn't have started anything?

Sheesh - some people!

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I'll give you a hint - the license on the software is for one user, one computer, no rental or resale of use.

Take your time, mate
Well Put.

Why you think Adobe shit costs 300 +?

Commercial rights of use.

Darksoft does not write its software for commercial use.

These same folks above are the people that cant comprehend that when you buy software, you can only 'really' install it on one computer'

heheheh

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Well Put.

Why you think Adobe shit costs 300 +?

Commercial rights of use.

Darksoft does not write its software for commercial use.

These same folks above are the people that cant comprehend that when you buy software, you can only 'really' install it on one computer'

heheheh

Yup. Same goes for people who buy Photoshop through a student program. Fine, you get it for $30 or so, but it's not licensed for commercial use.

The mags I used to work for had a closet with stacks (and I mean STACKS) of Adobe boxes and Quark manuals. This is back before multi-licensing.
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Gia - who the fuck is trying to be a 'bigshot'

youre lame, if you could even spell it.

YOu have no idea about software use.

When you turn 19 come back to the forum okay.

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Old 11-27-2002, 03:06 AM   #42
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Give the guy a break, he is just looking for a fucking job. If you need someone like him, then give it a try and see if you get results. Otherwise just ignore his offer. I see no problem with someone using a program & hand submit galleries.

BTW you should give people an idea what you charge for this service.
This all depends on how many TGPs the person wants me to submit to.

And could everyone whose bitching, please stop the bitching. If you have a problem with it, then don't post in this thread. Sometimes people are looking for folks to submit their galleries for them, I was just seeing if anyone was looking at the moment.

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There was me gonna drop this...

You're still making no sense at all. It is only gonna be used on one computer. The guys not offering to sell the program to other people. He's using it to do the job it was intended for - he's using it on one PC to help him with his work ie submitting galleries for people. If someone wants to pay him for his time using it how would that be a problem? If the GASS guy gets pissed at someone doing that for whatever reason then it still seems plain daft to me - but it's his shout. Neither of your arguments do or will stand up though as far as I'm concerned. GASS remains a tool to assist hand submitting and nothing else. What the people are paying for is the time and effort it takes the guy to hand submit.


Fuck it - that really is it. I don't have a clue how you can't see that or can see points that aren't there but genuinely care little. It's just tough to not have the last word isn't it? So I'll leave that to you as it'll make you happy.

Railz - go back and read your reply with all the quotes where you start babbling about 'my customers' and tell me you make any sense. You make none at all.

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This all depends on how many TGPs the person wants me to submit to.

And could everyone whose bitching, please stop the bitching. If you have a problem with it, then don't post in this thread. Sometimes people are looking for folks to submit their galleries for them, I was just seeing if anyone was looking at the moment.

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How about this fuck-o

You email Darksoft and tell them you are offering your
'Submitting services' on GFY.

Here is the contact info.

email [email protected]
ICQ 8417684

POst your email you send them, and post their reply.

Until then, I say you drop it because you are using their product commercially and without their permission.

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Old 11-27-2002, 03:14 AM   #46
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How about this, immature-o

Go whine and cry in someone elses thread. I didn't come here to argue with you, I came here to ask if anyone needed what I have to offer.

Exactly what Tipsy said, I am not renting/leasing, whatever. I am saying... I can submit your galleries for XX amount of money.

How I submit them? That is my business. I own a copy of G.A.S.S., if I want to use it to help me get my work done (which is what it was meant for) why can't I do this?

I am not saying I will give you a copy for XX amount of dollars a week, that would be renting it.

I am offering a service, and to aid me with that service I am using G.A.S.S.

What seems to be your big problem, coming here calling me names and such.

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There was me gonna drop this...

You're still making no sense at all. It is only gonna be used on one computer. The guys not offering to sell the program to other people. He's using it to do the job it was intended for - he's using it on one PC to help him with his work ie submitting galleries for people.


So, it's okay to make money using someone else's software product when the paying party has not bought a license for said product, or is licensed to use it in any way, remotely or installed?

Heck - you can look at it another way. Say I'm thinking about buying that bit of software, but this guy pops up and offers to use his copy for me and I don't have to buy it. He makes money using it, the author looses a sale from me.

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If someone wants to pay him for his time using it how would that be a problem?


People used to try this line for selling items or characters in Everquest. They'd put on the auction that you weren't buying the account (which you'd never paid a license fee for or to use at all) but you were paying them for their time in creating the account.

It didn't last long. At the end of the day, Verant owned the software and you simply had a one use, no rental or resale clause there too.

Just an example.

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If the GASS guy gets pissed at someone doing that for whatever reason then it still seems plain daft to me - but it's his shout.


Correct. I didn't write the software, but I'm sure that if I did, I'd be doing more than trying to explain software licenses and fair-use policies to you on a message board inbetween working

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Neither of your arguments do or will stand up though as far as I'm concerned. GASS remains a tool to assist hand submitting and nothing else. What the people are paying for is the time and effort it takes the guy to hand submit.



See point above. If he was hand submitting using nothing else than the hands God gave him and a keyboard, then he'd be free and clear.

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Fuck it - that really is it. I don't have a clue how you can't see that or can see points that aren't there but genuinely care little. It's just tough to not have the last word isn't it? So I'll leave that to you as it'll make you happy.


Thanks! How very profound of you.

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Railz - go back and read your reply with all the quotes where you start babbling about 'my customers' and tell me you make any sense. You make none at all.
Have fun people.
I was just paraphrasing your post while directing the implication of his actions in a hypothetical sense. Maybe I should've been more clear on that and I applologize.
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What seems to be your big problem, coming here calling me names and such.
I seem to be your problem, not the other way around.

I called you a name because of your obvious ignorance.

I need not justify myself to you.

Read the terms of the program you use.

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I am about finished arguing with you people. I should have known that as soon as I came here some bigmouth would have to start someting.

If anyone is interested,
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Thank you everyone. You all have Happy Holidays
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Old 11-27-2002, 03:25 AM   #50
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Thank you everyone. You all have Happy Holidays
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