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Old 05-30-2009, 10:11 AM   #51
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Phoenix is in top 3 of lunatics on this board. He believes the most insane stuff. As long as something can be a conspiracy he instantly believes it. He then goes searching for compilation videos created by kids who present it as facts and then he comes here telling us all these "facts" and calling everyone who doesn't believe it sheep. It's amazing how imbeciles like him can survive in this world.
He told me that he doesn't believe the crap he posts here. He just likes to play.
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:13 AM   #52
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He told me that he doesn't believe the crap he posts here. He just likes to play.
I can guarantee you that's not true.
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:26 AM   #53
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But the chemtrails (which you believe in) keeps us all dumb. That doesn't go well together with solving this biggest conspiracy on earth created by the same government of which you believe drug us all on a massive scale.

Fucking moron.

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go to Youtube.com

type in 'wtc flashes' watch the first several videos

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I love this.

Us: Hey look more science from Engineers and people that know what they're talking about.

Them: Idiot, moron...

lol..
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:44 AM   #58
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Just got 1 thing to say guys.....


STOP LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST.... Those buildings are down, nothing you can do about it. And if you think by any chance anyone else then Bin Laden, who claimed his crew did it, will be prosecuted... Then you are dead wrong.

Move the fuck on people...
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Just got 1 thing to say guys.....


STOP LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST.... Those buildings are down, nothing you can do about it and if you think by any chance anyone else then Bin Laden, who claimed his crew did it will be prosecuted, then you are dead wrong.

Move the fuck on people...
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how silly
And you got your degree in architecture, or even physics WHERE?
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I would be willing to bet that any major high rise fire is going to have explosive sounds. Doesn't have to be bombs.
You were trained as a firefighter or for even simple demoliitons WHEN?
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And you got your degree in architecture, or even physics WHERE?
He once debunked Einstein while eating a bowl of ice cream

true story.
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I love this.

Us: Hey look more science from Engineers and people that know what they're talking about.

Them: Idiot, moron...

lol..
Actually I think you mean more like this:

You: Hey here's some guys with pretty good qualifications who say it was a controlled demolition. They're scientists so we should accept what they have to say about it.

The Majority of the World: Yeah okay, that's interesting. Unfortunately the VAST MAJORITY of people qualified in these disciplines don't agree with this analysis and further common sense kind of makes it the less likey of the two options. There's been at least two detailed reports explaining what _most likely_ happened and you can read them. Cumatively they were compiled by hundreds of experts.

You: Everyone is on the goverment payroll!!! When will you sheep wake up??
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:57 AM   #64
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I would be willing to bet that any major high rise fire is going to have explosive sounds. Doesn't have to be bombs.
Without a doubt. On the floors that the fire is burning in. But what about the basement and other floors?

Again I am not saying it was an inside job, just saying I think there is a lot more to the story.
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Without a doubt. On the floors that the fire is burning in. But what about the basement and other floors?

Again I am not saying it was an inside job, just saying I think there is a lot more to the story.
So once again what does that mean according to you? They bombed the basement?

No really, please answer me...i really can't wait for you to tell what you are aiming at.

Don't ignore me again please.
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funny how its relevant when an engineer said its a controlled demolition... but not relevant when engineers say it obviously wasn't.

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**If** this was (big on the IF here) a controlled demolition - which would lead to further questions and implications about the attacks on the twin towers themselves...how could those responsible think they could get away with an obvious controlled demolition in front of tens of thousands of witnesses?
Why would those who planted the explosives even care? Their goal was to strike at America and cause as much damage as possible. Al'Queda has already claimed responsibility for the attacks (planes & planted explosives). I don't know what this "conspiracy" thing people keep bringing up is about.
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Man that's old news, everyone knows the government destroyed several city blocks of their own country because they wanted insurance money or an excuse to start a war... Let it drop and let's discuss some real issues.

Like for instance, did you know the Lunar Landing was faked?!?!?!?!?!?
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I dont think it was an inside job. But hearing first hand testimonies of people inside the building seeing and hearing bombs go off in the basement and on different floors as they run up and down stairs saving people makes you wonder if there is more to the story.
The moment the planes hit the tower(s) they sent fireballs that exploded all the way down to the ground level. Instantly. God only knows what they did to the basement the thousands of gallons of gas they had stored there for their generators and what not.
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The moment the planes hit the tower(s) they sent fireballs that exploded all the way down to the ground level. Instantly. God only knows what they did to the basement the thousands of gallons of gas they had stored there for their generators and what not.
its weird how people can't grasp the simple fact that massive pressure was forced down the elevator shafts, in addition to the elevators and debris... as the result of a fully loaded commercial airline jet exploding in the middle of the building.
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baddog, pleasurepays and warchild, are what politicians in EU call people of "principle". They believe what the corporate media tell them to believe through the television and a few newspapers.

On a psychological level they continually seek the comfort it is to disagree with anyone who questions what the television already told them was the thruth.

When you think about it, they stand for the exact opposite that they try to portray. They claim/portray to have and assimilate knowledge, but in reality their knowledge is infinetely thin, because it can only ever come from the tv(the safe place).

Some EU politicians talked about taxing bloggers, because it's a cost for the corporate system that people get exposed to viewpoints and science that are not in line with the corporate medias version of events. I find that fucking scary, perhaps even scarier than the notion of terror attacks.

NB: when I say corporate media, read: "owned by the few", very few!
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baddog, pleasurepays and warchild, are what politicians in EU call people of "principle". They believe what the corporate media tell them to believe through the television and a few newspapers.

On a psychological level they continually seek the comfort it is to disagree with anyone who questions what the television already told them was the thruth.
and you are a kook who believes what other social misfits with no credentials other than their library card write on Internet forums.
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ROFLROFL yea it's the FOOLS who believe the official story, and it's the GENIUSES who believe the conspiracy theory. Absolutely hilarious logic.
Asking questions doesn't make a person a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut.

A stupid person believes what he is told. An intelligent person asks questions.
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Without a doubt. On the floors that the fire is burning in. But what about the basement and other floors?
Echoes? Reports?

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baddog, pleasurepays and warchild, are what politicians in EU call people of "principle". They believe what the corporate media tell them to believe through the television and a few newspapers.
and James124 is what people refer to as looney tunes.
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So once again what does that mean according to you? They bombed the basement?

No really, please answer me...i really can't wait for you to tell what you are aiming at.

Don't ignore me again please.
Funny how he keeps crying about explosions in the basement but refuses to answer my question.

Once again my point is proven. These conspiracy idiots are simply dumb as fuck.
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So fucking tired of these damned 9/11 threads. Listen I BLEW THE FUCKING BUILDING UP, I ADMIT IT. IT WAS FUCKING ME! There, debate settled, let it fucking go...
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Excellent post.

Not to mention it's impossible to organize an effort like this.

Assume you had enough people, with enough money and time, to actually rig the towers with demo. Let's say it could be done.

Now, how do you get all of the people involved to stay quiet?

How do you get everyone else involved to stay quiet, look the other way, etc?

Building security guards, private security guards from many different companies, employees of many different companies and government agencies, building maintenance people, and so on and so on.

All of the people would have to look the other way, so to speak, to allow the conspirators to rig these buildings.

Now, after the "controlled demolition". You have security videos from numerous sources. You have police and FBI and many other security groups that would be examining these videos. How do you get all of them to shut up?

Also, consider this; after all the engineering work that it would take to design a controlled demo of this size, in two seperate buildings (3 with WTC7), and after getting hundreds if not thousands of people to coordinate their efforts (or at least their involvement and secrecy), over the MONTHS it would take to execute such a plan, and after bringing in TONS of explosives, cables, detonators, wireless networking, timers, etc, and having some way to time the detonation with the impacts of the jets, the operation worked exactly as planned. No foulups, no mistakes, no leaks of information, nothing. Everything was perfectly timed and executed, the hundreds of people involved all stayed quiet, no one made any errors.

We all know the US government could NEVER pull off an operation like this.

And I'm not talking about vague theories. An effort of this magnitude would leave HUGE amounts of hard evidence.

And I'm not talking about "nano thermite" bullshit. "Nano Thermite" reacts chaotically. It does not cut smooth, straight lines. Thermite can be used to cut steel (and is, quite regularly). However, it requires considerable equipment to do so. Large canisters, lots of cables, etc, that "control the burn". "Nano thermite" does not cut steel - it melts it.

No "nano thermite" was found in the residue. Sulfer and aluminum oxide was found, and the conspiracy nuts made the huge leap of logic to say it's "nano thermite".

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It is NOT possible to rig the WTC towers to come down with CD.

The task of rigging just one tower alone is 6 times larger than the biggest recorded controlled demolition, which took months to rig in an ABANDONED building. Do you hear me? ABANDONED BUILDING WITH UNFETTERED ACCESS. An army of enginers running around the place with tons of equipment and miles of wiring.

Also, take into account that the WTC area is one of the busiest, most secure areas in NYC. Also, even if there were enough experts available to do it, who would actually believe they could be convinced, even with any amount of money, to kill thousands of innocent American --- and keep it secret? Its fucking silly to believe all of this.

Think about that for a moment, and process it, before jumping on these silly bandwagons. This guy may be an expert in architecture, but he may also have axes to grind.
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The moment the planes hit the tower(s) they sent fireballs that exploded all the way down to the ground level. Instantly. God only knows what they did to the basement the thousands of gallons of gas they had stored there for their generators and what not.
That could be it

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and James124 is what people refer to as looney tunes.

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Funny how he keeps crying about explosions in the basement but refuses to answer my question.

Once again my point is proven. These conspiracy idiots are simply dumb as fuck.
Funny how you think you are so important that I would ignore you on purpose.

I have no idea what would cause the explosions in the basement. I am not getting at anything.
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Excellent post.

Not to mention it's impossible to organize an effort like this.

Assume you had enough people, with enough money and time, to actually rig the towers with demo. Let's say it could be done.

Now, how do you get all of the people involved to stay quiet?

How do you get everyone else involved to stay quiet, look the other way, etc?

Building security guards, private security guards from many different companies, employees of many different companies and government agencies, building maintenance people, and so on and so on.

All of the people would have to look the other way, so to speak, to allow the conspirators to rig these buildings.

Now, after the "controlled demolition". You have security videos from numerous sources. You have police and FBI and many other security groups that would be examining these videos. How do you get all of them to shut up?

Also, consider this; after all the engineering work that it would take to design a controlled demo of this size, in two seperate buildings (3 with WTC7), and after getting hundreds if not thousands of people to coordinate their efforts (or at least their involvement and secrecy), over the MONTHS it would take to execute such a plan, and after bringing in TONS of explosives, cables, detonators, wireless networking, timers, etc, and having some way to time the detonation with the impacts of the jets, the operation worked exactly as planned. No foulups, no mistakes, no leaks of information, nothing. Everything was perfectly timed and executed, the hundreds of people involved all stayed quiet, no one made any errors.

We all know the US government could NEVER pull off an operation like this.

And I'm not talking about vague theories. An effort of this magnitude would leave HUGE amounts of hard evidence.

And I'm not talking about "nano thermite" bullshit. "Nano Thermite" reacts chaotically. It does not cut smooth, straight lines. Thermite can be used to cut steel (and is, quite regularly). However, it requires considerable equipment to do so. Large canisters, lots of cables, etc, that "control the burn". "Nano thermite" does not cut steel - it melts it.

No "nano thermite" was found in the residue. Sulfer and aluminum oxide was found, and the conspiracy nuts made the huge leap of logic to say it's "nano thermite".

To this a conspiracy nut would say
"the towers were originally built with explosive materials with the intent to be able to blow them up at a moment's notice blah blah blah"

I've actually seen that one.
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To this a conspiracy nut would say
"the towers were originally built with explosive materials with the intent to be able to blow them up at a moment's notice blah blah blah"

I've actually seen that one.
holy shit
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That could be it




Echoes dont remove peoples skin



Funny how you think you are so important that I would ignore you on purpose.

I have no idea what would cause the explosions in the basement. I am not getting at anything.
Read what i typed...twice and respond again. Seems like youre avoiding the subject because you know it makes you look dumb.
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Do you actually have a mind of your own, or do you regurgitate everything from CNN? "OMGS 9/11 was an inside job those people who think it was terrorists are sheep lol". Dumbass.
Wait a second here, so... in your opinion, questioning the official story due to other possibilities is considered NOT having a mind of your own.... and questioning nothing and believing as your told is considered having a mind of your own?

This is all pretty old useless ammo for more mindless bickering... which can be fun. But saying someone doesn't have a mind of their own because they actually want to consider other possibilities seems kinda... uhmm... backwards.
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wow.. watch this architect talk about how scientifically the explanations the gov't has provided for 9/11 are impossible..
I just watched your sig and it's way out of line.

Just saying.
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Uhm so they bombed the basement so the building can collapse from the top?


Is that what you're aiming at? If not then tell me what you are trying to say exactly.
Are you fucking retarded? Is this the question you want me to answer? I thought the question was so fucking stupid I didnt need to answer it

I dont believe the building was in free fall or it was an inside job or that it was a control demo.
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Why do you refuse to answer my question? Is it that hard? It basically shows that you were hinting at bombs in the basement which makes no sense at all and you only figured that out after i pointed it out to you.

Fucking clown.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:29 AM   #88
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Why do you refuse to answer my question? Is it that hard? It basically shows that you were hinting at bombs in the basement which makes no sense at all and you only figured that out after i pointed it out to you.

Fucking clown.
I said people reported it. FBI said there were bombs in the basement/under the building ass hat

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGE6GNKNpPA

So I guess the FBI are morons too.
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If they had said "Building 7 became unstable so we pulled it"... I'd have zero questions about it.
But their official explanation is that it just fell on it's own.... looking exactly like a controlled demolition.

That leaves me with questions.
me too.. the pentagon crash is slightly obscure as well when you look at the trajectory the plane had to take to hit the building like that.
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I said people reported it. FBI said there were bombs in the basement/under the building ass hat

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGE6GNKNpPA

So I guess the FBI are morons too.
ROFLMAO

An early report, from a correspondent, who says one working theory is a possible car bomb, and you take it as fact and use it as "evidence"?

The FBI never said there was a car bomb or any other kind of bomb. They speculated that there may be a car bomb during the initial moments of the crisis. That's long before anyone had any real theories, or conducted any interviews, or..

Use a little common sense! Just because a reporter says something doesn't make it true!
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:42 PM   #91
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I said people reported it. FBI said there were bombs in the basement/under the building ass hat

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGE6GNKNpPA

So I guess the FBI are morons too.


You try to get back at me with that? Seriously, it makes you look even more stupid
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I dont think it was an inside job. But hearing first hand testimonies of people inside the building seeing and hearing bombs go off in the basement and on different floors as they run up and down stairs saving people makes you wonder if there is more to the story.
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Without a doubt. On the floors that the fire is burning in. But what about the basement and other floors?

Again I am not saying it was an inside job, just saying I think there is a lot more to the story.
So TWICE you suggest there is more to the story because of people hearing "bombs" in the basement.

So may i ask you once again (third time) what exactly would bombs in the basement be good for? The fact that you never even thought about this before i mentioned it shows exactly how so many conspiracy idiots are well...idiots. From all possible reasons for explosions in the basement they right away come up with the most unlikely one because it fits their theory. Not even thinking about the fact that it makes no sense whatsoever. As long as it fits in their conspiracy (the building was bombed!!!) then it's good enough for people like you.
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Remember - its far easier to label someone an idiot for asking questions - than to actually prove or demonstrate how an all-steel structure can collapse identical to a controlled demolition...using just fire.
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So TWICE you suggest there is more to the story because of people hearing "bombs" in the basement.

So may i ask you once again (third time) what exactly would bombs in the basement be good for? The fact that you never even thought about this before i mentioned it shows exactly how so many conspiracy idiots are well...idiots. From all possible reasons for explosions in the basement they right away come up with the most unlikely one because it fits their theory. Not even thinking about the fact that it makes no sense whatsoever. As long as it fits in their conspiracy (the building was bombed!!!) then it's good enough for people like you.
I am not saying any conspiracy theory I am saying people reported bombs and explosions which they did. Thats not theory, thats fact that it was reported.

What do bombs do? THEY KILL PEOPLE. Terrorists are trying to KILL PEOPLE. Did the terrorists know the building would fall? Probably not. So they COULD have drove car bombs to the basement, had suicide bombs in the building to KILL PEOPLE.

I am not saying they DID. I am just saying their MAY BE more to the story. Jesus Christ.
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was it an inside job?
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Uhm so they bombed the basement so the building can collapse from the top?


Is that what you're aiming at? If not then tell me what you are trying to say exactly.
haha you will never change their minds so just sit back and laugh at them, I love these threads.
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Just another coincidence, I'm sure:

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Nah it wasn't an inside job. The 25 trillion in credit default swaps that disappeared with the buildings, the newly signed 99 year lease and terrorist insurance policy on the condemned buildings, etc. It's all a coincidence. Then you have the pentagon which as stated in that video is one of the most highly secured buildings on earth and we only have 5 frames from one camera? Yeah right. That mother fucker probably has a satellite trained on it 24-7. You can't take a shit anywhere near that place without being watched. Here's another coincidence the section of the Pentagon that was hit was the new offices for the people who were going to investigate the missing trillions of military money. They moved in that day. Just a coincidence.
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haha you will never change their minds so just sit back and laugh at them, I love these threads.
No what is sad is the moron is trying to "change" my mind when I basically agree with him but he cant understand that.
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All this theories can be true cause look like that.Maybe we gonna find out in next few years
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