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Old 05-23-2009, 01:17 PM   #1
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If you could kill baby Hitler, would you?

I guess killing children is like, "wrong" and all, but would you like to see Hitler killed as a child?
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No. I'd rescue him from the fucked up childhood that turned him into a sociopath.
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:27 PM   #3
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Did someone just watch an episode of the new twilight zone when some chick was sent back in time to kill Adolf?
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The Nazi empire was so much more than Hitler.
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Maybe some electrolysis on his lip would do the trick.. . Deep thoughts.
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No. I'd rescue him from the fucked up childhood that turned him into a sociopath.
Well, you would have had to take him away from his whores...

syphilis gone untreated drove him insane...
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Well, you would have had to take him away from his whores...

syphilis gone untreated drove him insane...
If you read the biographies... there's all kinds of info about his overbearing jewish mother...

Which probably drove him to fucking whores and intimacy problems which led to the syph...

But his genuine sociopathy was all as a result of his childhood...

Better childhood for Hitler = +2million Jews
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:21 PM   #14
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If you read the biographies... there's all kinds of info about his overbearing jewish mother...

Which probably drove him to fucking whores and intimacy problems which led to the syph...

But his genuine sociopathy was all as a result of his childhood...

Better childhood for Hitler = +2million Jews
well i better read up some, sounds interesting... Ive done a little but i had no idea hitler's mother was a jew... thats just too ironic

im smelling some anti - oedipus conflictions ;)
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No, how about kidnapping him and taking him somewhere else, like South Africa.
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The better question is: if you really believe genocide is so bad, what are YOU doing to stop it today? Have you given to Darfur relief?
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No and I would allow him to follow through with what he did.
Yes I have empathy for the people he killed and the lives lost during the war, some where even relatives.

Important lessons where learned during that period and out of it also came some very important technological advancements that very well may have never came out or would of been delayed potentially a very long time without the war. Then knowing a good chunk of the ideas, some of the technology, and many of the scientists were acting under his orders for self preservation or ideology.
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If you read the biographies... there's all kinds of info about his overbearing jewish mother...
Hitler's mother wasn't jewish. His grandmother however did work as a serveant for at least 2 jewish families... she got pregnant and moved back to her home town and married a guy named Hiedler. She named her son, Alois Hitler. Adolf Hitler was the son of Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl (a churchgoing Roman Catholic).

So there is a possibility that Adolf Hitler's biological grandfather was jewish. There are several theories about this,
possible grandfathers:
a man called Frankenberger (jew)
baron von rotschild (jew)
Hielder's brother (not jewish)
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There's also a theory/rumor that Engelbert Dollfuss (Chancellor of Austria) had a file about Hitler's ancestry (a kind of insurance policy) and that this file ended up in the hands of Reinhard Heydrich after Dollfuss was murdered by the nazi's.
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GFY don't give a shit about dead Sudanese kids.
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Hitler's mother wasn't jewish. His grandmother however did work as a serveant for at least 2 jewish families... she got pregnant and moved back to her home town and married a guy named Hiedler. She named her son, Alois Hitler. Adolf Hitler was the son of Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl (a churchgoing Roman Catholic).

So there is a possibility that Adolf Hitler's biological grandfather was jewish. There are several theories about this,
possible grandfathers:
a man called Frankenberger (jew)
baron von rotschild (jew)
Hielder's brother (not jewish)
...

There's also a theory/rumor that Engelbert Dollfuss (Chancellor of Austria) had a file about Hitler's ancestry (a kind of insurance policy) and that this file ended up in the hands of Reinhard Heydrich after Dollfuss was murdered by the nazi's.
Oh COOL. Thank you.
I knew he had Jewish ancestry in him somehow.. and I'd read the books when I was little.. ty
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No and I would allow him to follow through with what he did.
Yes I have empathy for the people he killed and the lives lost during the war, some where even relatives.

Important lessons where learned during that period and out of it also came some very important technological advancements that very well may have never came out or would of been delayed potentially a very long time without the war. Then knowing a good chunk of the ideas, some of the technology, and many of the scientists were acting under his orders for self preservation or ideology.
That is by far the worse cock and bull logic I have heard in all my born days...Kill anything and everything for the advancement of science and technology...

That logic is just plain fuckin nuts
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That is by far the worse cock and bull logic I have heard in all my born days...Kill anything and everything for the advancement of science and technology...

That logic is just plain fuckin nuts
It did not kill anything and everything, now did it?
We know how it ended up now don't we? Logically I am taking the safe bet. Can you tell anyone with any certainty what today would be like if you or anyone else could of killed him in order to prevent the war and attempted genocide?
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It did not kill anything and everything, now did it?
Not "anything and everything" but about 50 to 70 million people according to most sources.


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We know how it ended up now don't we? Logically I am taking the safe bet. Can you tell anyone with any certainty what today would be like if you or anyone else could of killed him in order to prevent the war and attempted genocide?
Actually, if someone could lay their hands on a time machine they'd get a lot more bang for the buck by forgetting about baby Adolf and instead preventing a certain particular assassination in Sarajevo. Do that and you (probably) avoid WWI which saves you another 15 million or so lives. More importantly, no WWI all but ensures that neither Hitler nor Stalin ever amount to much.

I don't know about you but I don't think today's world be any worse off were it not for all that past death and destruction.

Who knows, it might even be a little bit better of a place.
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It did not kill anything and everything, now did it?
We know how it ended up now don't we? Logically I am taking the safe bet. Can you tell anyone with any certainty what today would be like if you or anyone else could of killed him in order to prevent the war and attempted genocide?
Yeah, we know:

Genocide today and recently in Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, etc

Worse fucking plagues than they every had in that time.

Israel and Iran on the verge of war over nuclear weapons

Wars all over the fucking near east.

World economy as bad as during the world war II years

An environmental disaster...and on an on...

It's helped to fix a whole lot
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Genocide today and recently in Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, etc
Worse fucking plagues than they every had in that time.
Israel and Iran on the verge of war over nuclear weapons
Wars all over the fucking near east.
World economy as bad as during the world war II years
An environmental disaster...and on an on...
It's helped to fix a whole lot
You still know what you have.

Perhaps Hitler dies, someone else takes his place. War is delayed and nobody targets the jews. Then those scientists finish the atomic bomb and one of the many other villains of the times takes control. UK and Russia are nuked.

Point is you have no clear idea what could/would happen.

We have always had genocide, so that is not Hitlers fault.
Your plague statement is just wrong.
Israel and well everyone has been on verge of war - though would Israel be there if no Hitler?
Wars all over the East have been going on long before Hitler.
Economy is not directly related, unless perhaps WWII went wrong and then it may have never rebounded as it did - nor would we have the technology that gave us our economy today in the first place.
Environmental disaster - again not related unless your adding in the very few atomic meltdowns and uses in war. Though on the flip side atomic energy would be one of our safest forms of energy if we actually used it more, and that too would effect not only the economy but assorted crap in the Middle east.
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You still know what you have.

Perhaps Hitler dies, someone else takes his place. War is delayed and nobody targets the jews. Then those scientists finish the atomic bomb and one of the many other villains of the times takes control. UK and Russia are nuked.

Point is you have no clear idea what could/would happen.

We have always had genocide, so that is not Hitlers fault.
Your plague statement is just wrong.
Israel and well everyone has been on verge of war - though would Israel be there if no Hitler?
Wars all over the East have been going on long before Hitler.
Economy is not directly related, unless perhaps WWII went wrong and then it may have never rebounded as it did - nor would we have the technology that gave us our economy today in the first place.
Environmental disaster - again not related unless your adding in the very few atomic meltdowns and uses in war. Though on the flip side atomic energy would be one of our safest forms of energy if we actually used it more, and that too would effect not only the economy but assorted crap in the Middle east.
You are missing my point...what good has come out of Hitler, his genocide and the science and technology that came with that outweighs the tragic loses of that genocide as well as his war science and technology...nothing
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You are missing my point...what good has come out of Hitler, his genocide and the science and technology that came with that outweighs the tragic loses of that genocide as well as his war science and technology...nothing
Atomic technology, rocket technology, medical technology. Extrapolate from those three alone.
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Even If I was around during his time as a baby and was made aware of the crimes he would commit. What if some killed your child today and said "I was told by someone from the future that the kid was gonna be responsible for the deaths of millions" Plus fucking with the time line might cause someone or something worse to occur.
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No and I would allow him to follow through with what he did.
Yes I have empathy for the people he killed and the lives lost during the war, some where even relatives.

Important lessons where learned during that period and out of it also came some very important technological advancements that very well may have never came out or would of been delayed potentially a very long time without the war. Then knowing a good chunk of the ideas, some of the technology, and many of the scientists were acting under his orders for self preservation or ideology.
That's almost the identical answer Dan Ackroyd gave in his UFO documentary when asked if he'd make changes if he could travel back in time.
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That's almost the identical answer Dan Ackroyd gave in his UFO documentary when asked if he'd make changes if he could travel back in time.
OK that seals it. I will actually get that and watch it. I been resisting it for sometime as most UFO documentaries want me to punch kittens.
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Atomic technology, rocket technology, medical technology. Extrapolate from those three alone.
Didn't need Hitler and genocide for those...there is no direct relationship except for maybe rocket tech.
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You win.
Go get your cookie, you have defeated me. Hitlers programs had nothing to do with atomic technology nor any medical technology.
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well i better read up some, sounds interesting... Ive done a little but i had no idea hitler's mother was a jew... thats just too ironic
You had no idea because it is completely false.
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Might be a better idea to kill the baby Queen Victoria -- as she was the on who got the ball rolling towards pretty much everything that went wrong in Europe on the 20th century.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:00 PM   #42
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Hitler was only small part of a big organization. If you would have killed Hitler in his childhood there would be likely someone else to replace him and likely someone more able. So as result there would be more victims and maybe Nazi's would not lose.
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:28 AM   #43
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Better childhood for Hitler = +2million Jews
What about the other 4 million?
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:38 AM   #44
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Wasn't there a show once where they went back in time to WWII and killed Hilter, and when they come back to the US in modern times they open up the hatch of their time machine and see Nazi banners everywhere - and discover that the Nazis won.

Removing Hilter might have been the worst thing that could have happened. The Allies won because Hilter was an idiot.
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:48 AM   #46
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:49 AM   #47
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:25 AM   #50
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Removing Hilter might have been the worst thing that could have happened. The Allies won because Hilter was an idiot.
that's why allied plans to have the SAS assassinate Hitler were canceled.
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