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Old 11-25-2002, 11:40 AM   #101
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Old 11-25-2002, 11:41 AM   #103
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Old 11-25-2002, 11:43 AM   #104
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It boils down like this, or at least my take on it.

Amp designed Paysite Design. Nobody seems to be arguing that.

The real question is who Amp did the work for. Amp was saying earlier on he did it for Hungry, yet Vid is saying the design was purchased from Pensfan and Amp did the work for Pensfan. Nobody seems to be refuting the second claim, as of yet, so it looks to me like that's what happened.

If that IS what happened. All of this is crazy. Amp should have said, hey, Pensfan never paid me for your design, let's get this handled. If Hungry had any integrity at all, the situation would've been taken care of. But, Hungry already has a tainted reputation amongst many, so it's hard to say. I don't really know Hungry, tried to talk to him a couple times about a free gallery he offered me, never heard back.

Who knows. Just a lot of flaming and siding. There are little facts involved. I have no doubt that Amp didn't get paid. Just wondering WHO was supposed to pay him.

Hope you get your money in the end, Amp.
Thanks for bringing me up to speed. Several unanswered questions spinning in the wind. It appears the burden of proof lies with Amp, without proof it is just another unfounded BS accusation apparently originally directed at Hungryman. If this just turns out to be a false accusation Amp will drop a notch on my peg. I don't want this to happen as, up to this point, without knowing Amp personally, I have liked his board persona for the most part. Where is the "beef" Amp?
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Old 11-25-2002, 11:46 AM   #105
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AMP... did they take the actual graphics by downloading the work off your site or did you give them a zip with the completed work? The designers I work with usually require 50% up front and then 50% before I get the completed zip. It's fair for everyone that way. I always pay for what I order so people not paying for designs that they order and then using them on their site is pretty fucked up.

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Old 11-25-2002, 11:53 AM   #106
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I don't know about all you's but when a design is sold of ours....50% down and the balance when done.

And IF for certain circumstances the design is put up and the balance isn't paid. We put a file in the design work. and if it's not paid at a certain time as agreed upon we turn the switch and the damn thing goes down.

NEVER TRUST ANYONE!! when it comes to money. I don't care how long you've known em, there's always a first time of being fucked over
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Are Amp and Hungry both asleep? Why haven't we heard from either of them?

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Alright kiddies, there's been a lot of speculation here and it's time that the whole story from the guy it surrounds comes to light. By the way if no one knows I am/was Pensfan...

Alright, I have been in the design business for about 10 years, and in the adult design business for three...

Back when I was running my toon paysite, I was approached by a chick named BRIANNA about buying her compnaies toon flash feed, we started talking and everything was cool, then it turns out that BRIANNA was actually Paul Bradshaw aka Hungryman, posing as a chick so the bigger players in the biz would help him... SOmeone found out and the shit hit the fan...

Well a few weeks later he was back as hungryman and it seemed everyone had forgotten abotu that fiasco, and people were talking to him again...

He started asking me for a job, as a sales guy and after some serious thought I decided I'd give him a shot, everyone deserves a second chance ya know?

So I hired him for a minimal base pay and a percentage to sell my own members plug ins which he never had much luck selling, however, he did have a knack for selling design work, which at the time I was heavily into graffix alley, so he started selling minimal design work for me, it seemed that even though I was trying to help him he was doing my stuff half assed yet doing his own full on, which pissed me off...

hungryman became KNOWN for mine and my best friends toon logo abilities, and that was fine with me at the time because I was making the money, and it didn't matter if he took credit even though HE NEVER DREW ONE OF THE LOGOS IN GRAFFIX ALLEY.

When I went to work for adult.com, I kept him around because he was bringing in a few things, and I tried to pay him his salary, although it was tight, and a lot of times I couldn't, my fault, should have dropped him then.

Finally I got tired of it and let him do his own thing, however he didn't have a design site, a domain name or anything, so I was doing stuff with amp, and asked amp to do a site for hungryman so he would get the fuck away from me. Amp did a great design, and then all hell broke loose, HM showed off the design that HE DID to amp, amp kept quiet as a favor to me because I didn't want to start any trouble with my adult.com job, so we just laughed at the inside joke.

Now here's the fun part... Hungry's wife told him that if he didn't get off his ass and make money to support his family that she would leave him...

He came to me crying about it, and what I did was BUY A MEMBERSHIP for him to russian submitter, and build galleries for him so he could make money, all he had to do was everyday upload the new galleries and press a button...

Well he didn't hardly ever do them then cried to me cuz he wasn't making any money, then when his wife left him, everyone was like poor hungryman let's give him money... I was totally astonished by that one.

And I had to keep my mouth shut or I would have been fired, so I did, I let everyone think he was a great designer, let him do his own thing, bit my tongue everytime he talked smack about TennisAce, because he's no better, at least Daniel tries to design, unlike HM who goes around CLAIMING he's a designer when he isn't...

Oh and the hungryman apporved logo was created by me, That's why it isn't in his portfolio.

As far as vid's statements that HM paid me for designs he has in his portfolio as well as the design site, that's fucking bullshit, I let HM use that design site because I felt sorry for him, and asked amp to just let it go, even when hungry talked shit straight to amp's face, amp turned the other cheek smashed his monitor and moved on. (thanks buddy I owe ya a lot of corona for that one)

I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A FUCKING DIME FROM THAT DEADBEAT HUNGRYMAN AND IF HE CLAIMS DIFFERENT THEN HE BETTER START SHOWING PROOF

The bottom line is this Hungryman has been a con man from the beggining when he was Brianna having cyber sex with big guys on albumside, he's a lazy fuck that has delusions of grandeur yet doesn't want to work for the glory.

A lot of the sites in his portfolio I paid for or am still making payments on yet because of my prior affiliation with adult.com I let him take advantage of me, and just let it go.

Well not anymore, that is over my friends...

Oh and when he shows you a design and you're like what the fuck is this god awful crap, then he claims well that's what I give a client when they only pay 100 bucks, it's actually that's all I give a client when I have to do the work myself...


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Old 11-25-2002, 01:41 PM   #110
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Wrong kids there is a rigt way and a wrong way of doin things .. Amp chose the wrong way.

Threats and insults will never get you want you want. Oh and threats just fuel a fire. THat's what he did ... He was asked by many to tone it down .. And still has yet to confirm or back up anything he has said. I've been in the Arts for 20 years. I know copyright .. ANd so far there is nothing that validates his story ... If he was smart or just polite he would of got intouched with us and explained his delema. We hadnt heard anything about this before. But rather he decided to air his laundry. His claim bairly enters him in small claims court. While mine can last for weeks. THink about that for awhile .. Think about everything he has written here, it's all admissable. .. Good day
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So what is the bottom line. Do they legally own the design or not?
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So what is the bottom line. Do they legally own the design or not?
ummm..... I own the fucking design brainiac.
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Amp, if you could hold back of ripping HUngry after him shopwing you *his* design this long.

Fuck you HAVE control. Trust. and an honor system among peers.

This shit was due.

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Got this from Hungryman on icq:

Hey Duane ... Why the fuck is Amp telling me I owe him money for a site design (which was by no means COMPLETE ...) ,,, but oddly enough I was told by you I could have when we parted ways with xxxdesigngroup.com ???

Ya know after awhile bullshit and reality tend to blend together, and you actually believe your own bullshit...

Well I'm back in fucking reality god dammit, maybe someday Hungryman can get there I doubt it though, he still thinks he's a designer
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So did his wife leave him because he was a lazy broke fuck, or for cybering with hard legs?
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she left him for not making any money

and she told him to get a job and he wouldn't
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ummm..... I own the fucking design brainiac.
I figured as much, just trying to clarify what seems to me be confusion as there are several actors invovled.
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By the way is anyone sure that TennisAce and Hungryman are not father and son? On face value it appears that Hungryman's days in this business are over. It will be very difficult, if not impossible to recover from this.
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Okay ...

Amp, sounds like you are a fair man. You earned kudo's in my book (not that you would give a flying fuck ) for being that supportive of BuckNaked.

BuckNaked, good story.



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Got this from Hungryman on icq:

Hey Duane ... Why the fuck is Amp telling me I owe him money for a site design (which was by no means COMPLETE ...) ,,, but oddly enough I was told by you I could have when we parted ways with xxxdesigngroup.com ???

Ya know after awhile bullshit and reality tend to blend together, and you actually believe your own bullshit...

Well I'm back in fucking reality god dammit, maybe someday Hungryman can get there I doubt it though, he still thinks he's a designer
So, in fact Hungryman is aware of this thread and chooses not to make an appeareance. I cannot say that I blame him.
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Didn't see this coming.


P.S. Anyone else think it's pretty obvious that vidvicious is Hungryman?
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By the way is anyone sure that TennisAce and Hungryman are not father and son? On face value it appears that Hungryman's days in this business are over. It will be very difficult, if not impossible to recover from this.
isent there a 6'th chance 4 Bradshaw ?
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this reminds me of a rapper named Skillz formally know as Mad Skillz. he supposedly ghostwrote a bunch of songs for famous rappers like mase, puffy, foxy brown and got dicked over on the money and he made a song called ghostwriter and edited out all the names and at the end he said "yall keep fucking around im gonna put this back out with your names in it"
I've heard that guy as guest MC on a BT record. He kicks ass.
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So in short, Hungryman (Paul B.) is a pathetic worthless piece of human flesh?
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this brianna thing - was it the same guy posing as BRIANNA on the ynot board a couple years ago? who then got full on busted? i seem to remember something like that, but i wasn't really paying much attention.

again, damn.
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this brianna thing - was it the same guy posing as BRIANNA on the ynot board a couple years ago? who then got full on busted? i seem to remember something like that, but i wasn't really paying much attention.
Correct, I remember that episode - YNOT was pretty entertaining back then ;-)
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damn.

this brianna thing - was it the same guy posing as BRIANNA on the ynot board a couple years ago? who then got full on busted? i seem to remember something like that, but i wasn't really paying much attention.

again, damn.
LOL, I totally remember that too, I had no idea it was Hungryman.


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So in short, Hungryman (Paul B.) is a pathetic worthless piece of human flesh?
It appears that way.
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What I cant grasp, is how someone could just sit back and watch others assrape them at this magnitude on a message board and not respond.

Airing dirty laundry will get your dirty laundry aired as well in most cases. I hope some of you dont have skeletons in your closet, as they may be making an appearance soon.

You guys are brutal. Remind me to never piss you off. heh.
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:21 PM   #142
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Paul is an awful large/ugly woman to be having cyber sex with. Paulina?
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:21 PM   #143
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What I cant grasp, is how someone could just sit back and watch others assrape them at this magnitude on a message board and not respond.

Airing dirty laundry will get your dirty laundry aired as well in most cases. I hope some of you dont have skeletons in your closet, as they may be making an appearance soon.

You guys are brutal. Remind me to never piss you off. heh.
I am surprised that you seem to be impressed?
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:23 PM   #144
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i don't know what the whole story is but i don't think Hungryman would fuck you over on purpose, he must have his reasons. hope you guys can sort things out eventually, hate to see 2 regular good gfy guys gone sour over business.
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:23 PM   #145
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wow...I dont know what to say...heh
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:24 PM   #146
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Correct, I remember that episode - YNOT was pretty entertaining back then ;-)
too damn funny

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Old 11-25-2002, 02:26 PM   #147
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So we pretty much know that Hungryman will never show his face, any guesses on what his new nick will be? ;)
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:26 PM   #148
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too damn funny

i think thats my new alias...Too Damn Funny
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:26 PM   #149
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he just posted in another thread - why dosent ha show up in this one?
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Old 11-25-2002, 02:27 PM   #150
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i don't know what the whole story is but i don't think Hungryman would fuck you over on purpose, he must have his reasons. hope you guys can sort things out eventually, hate to see 2 regular good gfy guys gone sour over business.
Correction, 1 regular GFYer, 1 former regular GFYer
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