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Old 04-11-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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Ill Start the Rumor Here: Lebron James is on HGH.

Im I the only one that thinks he HAS to be on some kind of Roid or HGH?
He's looking and acting rather superhuman..

Pic from todays front espn page. there are more pics this year that have really made me think.



Far diff body then the Kobes and Even Jordan greats before him. No one has had a body like this.

Do they even test in the NBA? No way Stern would want his golden boy busted. I bet they dont even test.
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He's like the Video Game NBA Jam when a Player gets hot. Doesnt even seem real out there. Superhuman. And he looks HUGE....... Yet he moves like a little guy. Fast and strong.
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His head and chin are growing as well.
Another sign.

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Its tough to see in pics. But when you watch a game that hes playing in he really sticks out. Physically. Like its not natural. He really sticks out amoung the other players in the game
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they can't test for HGH

all of the ball players switched from roids because there is no test

it is good healthy stuff too, if the gov't made it easier to prescribe and/or import it wouldn't even be expensive either (of course they always want to keep the huge drug company profits which charge 1000 times what it costs them to manufacture something)


alot of celebs are looking pretty good like bodies of 20 year olds right into their 50's and up
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So you agree. He is probably using?
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the sad thing is the government wants to lump everything together in their whole anti steroid hysteria and criminalize people wanting to better themselves and rejuvenate themselves, they have no problem taking away an individual's right to choose
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So you agree. He is probably using?
Wouldn't be surprised ...they do anything to stay on top of their game
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So you agree. He is probably using?
I would never make that kind of assumption about any specific individual, but one can put two and two together..... roids became the new "demon" by congress, hgh is not testable, hgh is very powerful and helps recovery and connective tissues and muscles
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Hey dumb ass Lebron looks bigger on tv and in pics. In person he looks like what you would expect 6'9" 270 pound guy to look like. I seen him after every away game for the last 2 years.

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Well, would you say Shaq was also on it?

With LeBron, he was already 240 coming out of high school. So he's only put on about 20 to 30 pounds of muscle in the last 5 to 6 years. Considering that he's training with professionals, that is pretty realistic to put on 20 to 30 pounds, even Kobe put that on since he started.

Some people just have big frames. Dennis Rodman was built like that too.

But still, it could be possible in todays sports era. I just think he's got great genetics. I wonder what his dad looked like? Maybe his pops was Shawn Kemp or Karl Malone.
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They all use. I follow basketball closely and you can see the difference in ALL the players of this generation.
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Well, would you say Shaq was also on it?

With LeBron, he was already 240 coming out of high school. So he's only put on about 20 to 30 pounds of muscle in the last 5 to 6 years. Considering that he's training with professionals, that is pretty realistic to put on 20 to 30 pounds, even Kobe put that on since he started.

Some people just have big frames. Dennis Rodman was built like that too.

But still, it could be possible in todays sports era. I just think he's got great genetics. I wonder what his dad looked like? Maybe his pops was Shawn Kemp or Karl Malone.
I would say Shaq IS using it this past year for injuries and just look at how well he is playing, running, jumping, and his power. All this year after years of downward spiraling.
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I like Stan Van Jeremy - Dwight Howard was on Jim Rome doing his impression of him.

i think there's a good chance Lebron is on HGH - but the same can be said of any high performance athlete who's that cut and big. people are kidding themselves - the locker room chemists are always two steps ahead of current testing procedures.
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Steroids have made sports more exciting and interesting to watch.

I'm down with it. I just hope it isn't all that harmful. I watched a great documentary the other day.. "Bigger, Stronger, Faster"
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Im I the only one that thinks he HAS to be on some kind of Roid or HGH?
He's looking and acting rather superhuman..

Pic from todays front espn page. there are more pics this year that have really made me think.



Far diff body then the Kobes and Even Jordan greats before him. No one has had a body like this.

Do they even test in the NBA? No way Stern would want his golden boy busted. I bet they dont even test.
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Im I the only one that thinks he HAS to be on some kind of Roid or HGH?
He's looking and acting rather superhuman..

Pic from todays front espn page. there are more pics this year that have really made me think.



Far diff body then the Kobes and Even Jordan greats before him. No one has had a body like this.

Do they even test in the NBA? No way Stern would want his golden boy busted. I bet they dont even test.
This is crazy, I've recently been talking about this same thing with my friends. I get to see him when he comes to Atlanta and agree he's like a grown man amongst boys on the court. I actually went back a few nights ago and looked up pictures from his rookie year and he looks like a totally different person. Yeah, its been 6 years with weight training, etc, but if he wasn't on the Juice, I'd be highly surprised.
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they can't test for HGH

all of the ball players switched from roids because there is no test
that hasn't been true for a few years. but thanks for playing..



here's an irony.. he's using HGH? well... why is a person that big/tall to begin with? excess HGH.
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I'm down with it. I just hope it isn't all that harmful. I watched a great documentary the other day.. "Bigger, Stronger, Faster"
That movie is great.

Yeah, he's probably on HGH. If you compare professional athletes of the past with professional athletes of today, you can see a noticable difference. Most of them are on something to help with recovery, muscle growth, etc.

You probably would've seen a difference between Lebron and other players in the past without drugs as well. He probably has prime genetics, which makes him stick out even further than other athletes on the court who may also be using HGH or other "steroids".
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If he isn't on something, he is a genetic freak of nature. I've never seen an NBA player built like him.
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that hasn't been true for a few years. but thanks for playing..



here's an irony.. he's using HGH? well... why is a person that big/tall to begin with? excess HGH.
you are wrong on both counts, thanks for playing too

genetically tall people are not that way because of high natural hgh, it has nothing to do with it

and as far as your statement about testing for hgh, you need to check your facts again.... they are trying to fund a new study to try to develop the first test for it, here is an article just out last week about the subject:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40418297.html

"The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has agreed to fund an ongoing study with the aim of developing the first urine test for human growth hormone.

Ceres Nanosciences LLLP is working with scientists at George Mason University in Virginia to create and market the test.
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Major League Baseball has banned HGH, but it doesn't test for the substance. It's not because they don't want to. It's because there is no real test to do so.
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how about this recent story

Lance Armstrong got a surprise visit from the French authorities for a surprise random drug test, and against the rules, he "needed" to disappear into a locked bathroom for a 20 minute "shower"....

things that make you go "hmmmmmm"


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090409/...g_doping_rules
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They don't test because there's nothing to test for.

HGH is naturally produced by the body.
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all athletes start roids or growth hormone in hs.. Thats how we get people 10 inches above thier parents..

I never did but im from a tall gene pool..
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you are wrong on both counts, thanks for playing too

genetically tall people are not that way because of high natural hgh, it has nothing to do with it

and as far as your statement about testing for hgh, you need to check your facts again.... they are trying to fund a new study to try to develop the first test for it, here is an article just out last week about the subject:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40418297.html

"The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has agreed to fund an ongoing study with the aim of developing the first urine test for human growth hormone.

Ceres Nanosciences LLLP is working with scientists at George Mason University in Virginia to create and market the test.
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Major League Baseball has banned HGH, but it doesn't test for the substance. It's not because they don't want to. It's because there is no real test to do so.
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there are blood tests. has been for many years and they are used at the olympics. the first use was 2004. players unions are the ones throwing up roadblocks to testing in pro sports. it has nothing to do with "the lack of available tests"

the article you are quoting is about developing a urine test... not "a test" in general.

and i wasn't saying a person is tall because of natural HGH... i was saying it was an ironic argument because they can certainly be linked. early high production causing greater than usual growth spurts.

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Hey dumb ass Lebron looks bigger on tv and in pics. In person he looks like what you would expect 6'9" 270 pound guy to look like. I seen him after every away game for the last 2 years.
it would be extremely tough to get to 270 pounds doing several hours of intense cardio a day... without "help".

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I would be surprised if he did not. Most of them do, add it to good genetics and you can look better than the rest without that good genes
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Dwight Howard must be on it too... I hope Pleasurepays writes congress and does something about this... an angry, bitter woman like her might get something done
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if i was to write a congress it would be about the benefits of testosterone and hgh supplementation and ask them why they made it illegal against any and all advice against it from within government and without.

i love hgh.

drugs in sports? who cares. its the same as with body building. you have genetic potential. that's all. all you can do is achieve your genetic potential. with or without drugs, its still talent and hard work that sets records... its not a shot in the ass that sets records. the only twist is that new records are being set against those who didn't (or may not have) used drugs... and thats a bit unfair. but overall... i say grab a needle, 500mg of testosterone cypionate and stab that thing in your ass... then grab a few I.U.'s of good HGH, shoot it and go do what you do.

there is probably no two drugs on the face of the earth that can do more positive things for the male body without harm, than these two drugs.
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anyone on here take HGH?
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Bone, they just make them bigger - faster - stronger these days as was with Jordan/Magic's group was over the West/Baylor group
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if i was to write a congress it would be about the benefits of testosterone and hgh supplementation and ask them why they made it illegal against any and all advice against it from within government and without.

i love hgh.

drugs in sports? who cares. its the same as with body building. you have genetic potential. that's all. all you can do is achieve your genetic potential. with or without drugs, its still talent and hard work that sets records... its not a shot in the ass that sets records. the only twist is that new records are being set against those who didn't (or may not have) used drugs... and thats a bit unfair. but overall... i say grab a needle, 500mg of testosterone cypionate and stab that thing in your ass... then grab a few I.U.'s of good HGH, shoot it and go do what you do.

there is probably no two drugs on the face of the earth that can do more positive things for the male body without harm, than these two drugs.
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They advertise HGH to people on Art Bell's radio show. (Its a guilty pleasure of mine when I'm driving at 3am).

I've also seen ads for HGH in those magazines on airlines.
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I never did but im from a tall gene pool..
I never took anything, and I was 6'1" in 6th grade with a size 12 shoe. My sister is 6' tall, 6 inches taller than Mom and taller than Dad.



What is different about today than 10 and for sure 20+ years ago is the knowledge of what to eat and how to work out correctly - mixed with better equipment. Even the shoes have gotten better.

A great example is when Tiger Woods came in, he raised the bar for working out, practice, hours of practice, how to practice, everything was raised to a new standard that was 20x harder than the next best guy was doing.


The problem is most of you can't relate, drugs aren't needed at all. I went from 145 up to 240, I'm 170 now.. My 20's I put in almost 100lbs of weight, I grew in height, speed, etc.

The human body under the correct conditions will grow on it's own all through it's 20's. And unless you are doing what they are doing, you will never be able to understand it.
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just reading the HGH thing, can't wait for a giant chin

reminds me of the simpsons episode
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just reading the HGH thing, can't wait for a giant chin

reminds me of the simpsons episode
i doubt you could afford the amount of hgh it would require on a daily basis to eventually start seeing symptoms of gigantism.

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They advertise HGH to people on Art Bell's radio show. (Its a guilty pleasure of mine when I'm driving at 3am).

I've also seen ads for HGH in those magazines on airlines.
be careful, real HGH MUST be injected, if it is some kind of oral supplement then it is not real HGH and is basically a waste of money (even though some studies have shown the ability to very temporarily raise natural hgh with very high doses of some substances, but the effect is shortlived and you do not get any actual results that real injected HGH gives)


so UNLESS you are sticking a needle in yourself, you are not getting real hgh and it is basically a marketing scam
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it would be extremely tough to get to 270 pounds doing several hours of intense cardio a day... without "help".

He uses creatine and protein.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:52 PM   #46
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He uses creatine and protein.
creatine and protein do nothing to stop muscle catabolism from excessive cardio. you have to rest to grow. you don't grow by doing intense drills and running 1/2 the day.
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Im I the only one that thinks he HAS to be on some kind of Roid or HGH?
He's looking and acting rather superhuman..

Pic from todays front espn page. there are more pics this year that have really made me think.



Far diff body then the Kobes and Even Jordan greats before him. No one has had a body like this.

Do they even test in the NBA? No way Stern would want his golden boy busted. I bet they dont even test.
your headline is borderline libel
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This is a retarded post... enough said...
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