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Socks · 04-06-2009, 01:45 PM

So I'm going through some of my reviews here, and I find av9898, a good site that I promote via CCBill now has a new webmaster URL etc, so I check it out. I see they have Nats now, but my ccbill codes are working so whatever. I just wanted some fresh pictures.

Anyways I looked at their join form, and it says they'll only pay through Paypal, and there's a TEN dollar fee... I don't have a single sponsor that pays me by Paypal to begin with, but then ten dollars? What the fuck are they thinking?

Then I checked a new site submission we received, and I see they're using Nats as well (http://www.adultrealcash.com).

Check fee - $6
Courier fee - $50
Epassporte - $4
Intl Wire - $35
Paypal $4 or 5% (?...)
US Wire $18
WebMoney - $4 or 2.5%

On a $50 min payout, $4 is EIGHT percent! I prefer to get checks too, so that would be 12%...

I mean I couldn't list these sites if I wanted to.

I also "found" around $700 by logging in to 2 sponsors yesterday who for whatever reason weren't paying on time. Sands from ETU Cash got right back to me, and the payment type wasn't setup properly, so props there.

Really gotta do regular checkups on all your sponsors, it's worth money nowadays.

Also I'm seriously gonna have to consider implementing my own fuckin terms and conditions and policies.. I'm sick of losing money to these greedy payment fees, paying money to get paid.. as if I don't pay enough in bank fees already or something

(endrant)

Sly · 04-06-2009, 01:47 PM

Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?

Nicky · 04-06-2009, 01:49 PM

Many of the sponsors I have that pay by epass takes $2 or 0.

Ozarkz · 04-06-2009, 01:50 PM

Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

Nicky · 04-06-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?

Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales

BradM · 04-06-2009, 01:51 PM

Jack off in my minestrone and I'd never know it!

MrDeiz · 04-06-2009, 01:51 PM

ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

Sly · 04-06-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales

Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.

jcsike · 04-06-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Check fee - $6

thats funny, webmasterchecks charges us $2 check to get our payments sent out through our nats system

Socks · 04-06-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.

Ozarkz · 04-06-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.

Excel must be your best friend.

HookUPcom · 04-06-2009, 01:59 PM

Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

mineistaken · 04-06-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HookUPcom

Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

lol thats spot on

Manowar · 04-06-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookUPcom

Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

Barefootsies · 04-06-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

WiredGuy · 04-06-2009, 02:29 PM

$6 check fee is a little absurd.
WG

TheAmericanCannibal · 04-06-2009, 03:33 PM

be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.

Brujah · 04-06-2009, 03:44 PM

I get sponsors emailing me or calling me up and telling me I haven't cashed my check in 2 weeks, and wondering if everything is ok. I get sponsors telling me an old check wasn't cashed and asking if they need to resend it, etc.. I always make a point to send them more traffic.

It's completely my fault if I find uncashed checks that have expired, but I still appreciate the sponsor noticing and contacting me. I'll try to push more sales to them.

If I catch missing or late payments myself, I'd be inclined to drop or send less. There's always another sponsor waiting to take the sales.

TheDoc · 04-06-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.

What VOD Payments?

The Ghost · 04-06-2009, 03:48 PM

No fees for checks or Epass payments from islanddollars.com

seeandsee · 04-06-2009, 03:50 PM

some crappy fees whit some sponsors

commonsense · 04-06-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.

That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.

V_RocKs · 04-06-2009, 03:54 PM

Why not have your own terms? The Best Porn does.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-07-2009, 05:46 AM

I agree and it is something I have been noticing for a while now. Somewhere it became okay to have to pay them for paying us.

I am happy to say that Max Cash doesn't charge our affiliates anything for either check or epass payments.

TeenCat · 04-07-2009, 05:54 AM

oh wow ... zencash paying only by paypal ... thats something new to me, and i am sure when i signed up there it wasnt only paypal, as i am not signing up to programs that have paypal as i dont have any ... wow, zencash wtf? i need answers now ...

TeenCat · 04-07-2009, 05:58 AM

... of course they had other payments, as i cannot signup somewhere where it needs paypal as i dont have any, so how can i input my none paypal? and why the hell nobody noticed me from zencash by email ... cool, zencash is another sponsor fucking with his affiliates ... much ill people last time around ...

diesel · 04-07-2009, 06:05 AM

Way too greedy.

We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

Iron Fist · 04-07-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Excel must be your best friend.

And if he knew VBA he could automate it all by using the Internet Explorer Object library in his VBA code and run though all in the background.

Just sayin...

chemicaleyes · 04-07-2009, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diesel

Way too greedy.

We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

kowalsky · 04-07-2009, 07:07 AM

To claim a fee for ePassporte transfer is wretched. Specially when the minimal payment is $100.

Kron · 04-07-2009, 07:18 AM

fucked up, last cople month I tend to push ccbill sites over many other

stever · 04-07-2009, 07:20 AM

if you ask me...charging affiliates for anything is just bogus
they send the sales

MTCCash Tim · 04-07-2009, 07:40 AM

Never a payment fee when your an affiliate of ours! Every payment method free! See my sig and make money with our cams!

Mutt · 04-07-2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.

really? name the VOD companies that don't pay their affiliates and studios.

woj · 04-07-2009, 08:07 AM

Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them

Sarah_Jayne · 04-07-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them

I get emails all the time from new webmasters asking me what the charge is to promote Max Cash.

jono · 04-07-2009, 08:42 AM

I wouldn't imagine they'd be able to use Paypal.

Snake Doctor · 04-07-2009, 08:48 AM

Checks should be free, or at most the $2 or so that they actually get charged by the company that cuts the checks.

If you make $XXXX in a pay period, payment of any type should be on them, including wires.

tiger · 04-07-2009, 09:01 AM

Would be better if they would just raise the minimum payouts and reduce the fees.

CyberHustler · 04-07-2009, 09:05 AM

UFGators2007 · 04-07-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.

Agreed!

Boobgirl · 04-18-2009, 08:54 AM

Some programs use a third party payment system such as Webmaster Checks. These companies have 'load' fees, and payout fees based on how the affiliate is paid. Here is an example:

Load by Wire $0
Load by ACH $0
Load by epassporte $3
Load by paypal 0.4%
Load by Check $10

Use of Canadian ACH - $30 PER batch
Epassporte $30 load fee
Webmoney $35 load fee

Then to pay the affiliates:

US Postal Check $1.5-5 per check
Euro/Sterling Check $4-5 per check
Paypal $2-3
US ACH $2-3
Canadian ACH $2-3
Epassporte $3-4
Revup Card $1-3
US Wire $18
International wire $35
Western Union $16-40
Webmoney $2.5 + .8%

Stamps, USPS Priority service, or Courier are also extra.

CIVMatt · 04-18-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

Which is exactly why you don't promote a company like that

04-06-2009, 01:45 PM	#1
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Affiliate payment fees are getting out of control. So I'm going through some of my reviews here, and I find av9898, a good site that I promote via CCBill now has a new webmaster URL etc, so I check it out. I see they have Nats now, but my ccbill codes are working so whatever. I just wanted some fresh pictures. Anyways I looked at their join form, and it says they'll only pay through Paypal, and there's a TEN dollar fee... I don't have a single sponsor that pays me by Paypal to begin with, but then ten dollars? What the fuck are they thinking? Then I checked a new site submission we received, and I see they're using Nats as well (http://www.adultrealcash.com). Check fee - $6 Courier fee - $50 Epassporte - $4 Intl Wire - $35 Paypal $4 or 5% (?...) US Wire $18 WebMoney - $4 or 2.5% On a $50 min payout, $4 is EIGHT percent! I prefer to get checks too, so that would be 12%... I mean I couldn't list these sites if I wanted to. I also "found" around $700 by logging in to 2 sponsors yesterday who for whatever reason weren't paying on time. Sands from ETU Cash got right back to me, and the payment type wasn't setup properly, so props there. Really gotta do regular checkups on all your sponsors, it's worth money nowadays. Also I'm seriously gonna have to consider implementing my own fuckin terms and conditions and policies.. I'm sick of losing money to these greedy payment fees, paying money to get paid.. as if I don't pay enough in bank fees already or something (endrant)

04-06-2009, 01:47 PM	#2
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04-06-2009, 01:50 PM	#4
Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

04-06-2009, 01:51 PM	#6
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04-06-2009, 02:29 PM	#16
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04-06-2009, 03:33 PM	#17
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04-06-2009, 03:44 PM	#18
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	I get sponsors emailing me or calling me up and telling me I haven't cashed my check in 2 weeks, and wondering if everything is ok. I get sponsors telling me an old check wasn't cashed and asking if they need to resend it, etc.. I always make a point to send them more traffic. It's completely my fault if I find uncashed checks that have expired, but I still appreciate the sponsor noticing and contacting me. I'll try to push more sales to them. If I catch missing or late payments myself, I'd be inclined to drop or send less. There's always another sponsor waiting to take the sales. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I agree and it is something I have been noticing for a while now. Somewhere it became okay to have to pay them for paying us. I am happy to say that Max Cash doesn't charge our affiliates anything for either check or epass payments.

04-07-2009, 05:54 AM	#25
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	oh wow ... zencash paying only by paypal ... thats something new to me, and i am sure when i signed up there it wasnt only paypal, as i am not signing up to programs that have paypal as i dont have any ... wow, zencash wtf? i need answers now ... __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

04-07-2009, 05:58 AM	#26
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	... of course they had other payments, as i cannot signup somewhere where it needs paypal as i dont have any, so how can i input my none paypal? and why the hell nobody noticed me from zencash by email ... cool, zencash is another sponsor fucking with his affiliates ... much ill people last time around ... __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

04-07-2009, 06:05 AM	#27
diesel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,097	Way too greedy. We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

04-07-2009, 07:07 AM	#30
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04-18-2009, 08:54 AM	#42
Boobgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 447	Some programs use a third party payment system such as Webmaster Checks. These companies have 'load' fees, and payout fees based on how the affiliate is paid. Here is an example: Load by Wire $0 Load by ACH $0 Load by epassporte $3 Load by paypal 0.4% Load by Check $10 Use of Canadian ACH - $30 PER batch Epassporte $30 load fee Webmoney $35 load fee Then to pay the affiliates: US Postal Check $1.5-5 per check Euro/Sterling Check $4-5 per check Paypal $2-3 US ACH $2-3 Canadian ACH $2-3 Epassporte $3-4 Revup Card $1-3 US Wire $18 International wire $35 Western Union $16-40 Webmoney $2.5 + .8% Stamps, USPS Priority service, or Courier are also extra.