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Socks 04-06-2009 01:45 PM

Affiliate payment fees are getting out of control.
 
So I'm going through some of my reviews here, and I find av9898, a good site that I promote via CCBill now has a new webmaster URL etc, so I check it out. I see they have Nats now, but my ccbill codes are working so whatever. I just wanted some fresh pictures.

Anyways I looked at their join form, and it says they'll only pay through Paypal, and there's a TEN dollar fee... I don't have a single sponsor that pays me by Paypal to begin with, but then ten dollars? What the fuck are they thinking?

Then I checked a new site submission we received, and I see they're using Nats as well (http://www.adultrealcash.com).

Check fee - $6
Courier fee - $50
Epassporte - $4
Intl Wire - $35
Paypal $4 or 5% (?...)
US Wire $18
WebMoney - $4 or 2.5%

On a $50 min payout, $4 is EIGHT percent! I prefer to get checks too, so that would be 12%...

I mean I couldn't list these sites if I wanted to.

I also "found" around $700 by logging in to 2 sponsors yesterday who for whatever reason weren't paying on time. Sands from ETU Cash got right back to me, and the payment type wasn't setup properly, so props there.

Really gotta do regular checkups on all your sponsors, it's worth money nowadays.

Also I'm seriously gonna have to consider implementing my own fuckin terms and conditions and policies.. I'm sick of losing money to these greedy payment fees, paying money to get paid.. as if I don't pay enough in bank fees already or something

(endrant)

Sly 04-06-2009 01:47 PM

Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?

Nicky 04-06-2009 01:49 PM

Many of the sponsors I have that pay by epass takes $2 or 0.

Ozarkz 04-06-2009 01:50 PM

Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

Nicky 04-06-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15713016)
Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?

Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales :)

BradM 04-06-2009 01:51 PM

Jack off in my minestrone and I'd never know it!

MrDeiz 04-06-2009 01:51 PM

ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

Sly 04-06-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15713035)
Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales :)

Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.

jcsike 04-06-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15713006)
Check fee - $6

thats funny, webmasterchecks charges us $2 check to get our payments sent out through our nats system

Socks 04-06-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15713031)
Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.

Ozarkz 04-06-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15713066)
Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.

Excel must be your best friend. :1orglaugh

HookUPcom 04-06-2009 01:59 PM

Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

mineistaken 04-06-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookUPcom (Post 15713084)
Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

lol thats spot on

Manowar 04-06-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookUPcom (Post 15713084)
Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

And I need some gas for my car too...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barefootsies 04-06-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 15713040)
ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

:disgust

WiredGuy 04-06-2009 02:29 PM

$6 check fee is a little absurd.
WG

TheAmericanCannibal 04-06-2009 03:33 PM

be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.
:(

Brujah 04-06-2009 03:44 PM

I get sponsors emailing me or calling me up and telling me I haven't cashed my check in 2 weeks, and wondering if everything is ok. I get sponsors telling me an old check wasn't cashed and asking if they need to resend it, etc.. I always make a point to send them more traffic.

It's completely my fault if I find uncashed checks that have expired, but I still appreciate the sponsor noticing and contacting me. I'll try to push more sales to them.

If I catch missing or late payments myself, I'd be inclined to drop or send less. There's always another sponsor waiting to take the sales.

TheDoc 04-06-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15713466)
be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.
:(

What VOD Payments? :error

The Ghost 04-06-2009 03:48 PM

No fees for checks or Epass payments from islanddollars.com

seeandsee 04-06-2009 03:50 PM

some crappy fees whit some sponsors

commonsense 04-06-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 15713466)
be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.
:(


That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.

V_RocKs 04-06-2009 03:54 PM

Why not have your own terms? The Best Porn does.

Sarah_Jayne 04-07-2009 05:46 AM

I agree and it is something I have been noticing for a while now. Somewhere it became okay to have to pay them for paying us.

I am happy to say that Max Cash doesn't charge our affiliates anything for either check or epass payments.

TeenCat 04-07-2009 05:54 AM

oh wow ... zencash paying only by paypal ... thats something new to me, and i am sure when i signed up there it wasnt only paypal, as i am not signing up to programs that have paypal as i dont have any ... wow, zencash wtf? i need answers now ...

TeenCat 04-07-2009 05:58 AM

... of course they had other payments, as i cannot signup somewhere where it needs paypal as i dont have any, so how can i input my none paypal? and why the hell nobody noticed me from zencash by email ... cool, zencash is another sponsor fucking with his affiliates ... much ill people last time around ... :321GFY

diesel 04-07-2009 06:05 AM

Way too greedy.

We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

Iron Fist 04-07-2009 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15713072)
Excel must be your best friend. :1orglaugh

And if he knew VBA he could automate it all by using the Internet Explorer Object library in his VBA code and run though all in the background.

Just sayin... :thumbsup

chemicaleyes 04-07-2009 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diesel (Post 15715673)
Way too greedy.

We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

:thumbsup

kowalsky 04-07-2009 07:07 AM

To claim a fee for ePassporte transfer is wretched. Specially when the minimal payment is $100.

Kron 04-07-2009 07:18 AM

fucked up, last cople month I tend to push ccbill sites over many other

stever 04-07-2009 07:20 AM

if you ask me...charging affiliates for anything is just bogus
they send the sales

MTCCash Tim 04-07-2009 07:40 AM

Never a payment fee when your an affiliate of ours! Every payment method free! See my sig and make money with our cams!

Mutt 04-07-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 15713541)
That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.

really? name the VOD companies that don't pay their affiliates and studios.

woj 04-07-2009 08:07 AM

Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them :1orglaugh

Sarah_Jayne 04-07-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15716058)
Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them :1orglaugh

I get emails all the time from new webmasters asking me what the charge is to promote Max Cash.

jono 04-07-2009 08:42 AM

I wouldn't imagine they'd be able to use Paypal.

Snake Doctor 04-07-2009 08:48 AM

Checks should be free, or at most the $2 or so that they actually get charged by the company that cuts the checks.

If you make $XXXX in a pay period, payment of any type should be on them, including wires.

tiger 04-07-2009 09:01 AM

Would be better if they would just raise the minimum payouts and reduce the fees.

CyberHustler 04-07-2009 09:05 AM

:pimp:pimp

UFGators2007 04-07-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15713044)
Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.

Agreed! :2 cents:

Boobgirl 04-18-2009 08:54 AM

Some programs use a third party payment system such as Webmaster Checks. These companies have 'load' fees, and payout fees based on how the affiliate is paid. Here is an example:

Load by Wire $0
Load by ACH $0
Load by epassporte $3
Load by paypal 0.4%
Load by Check $10

Use of Canadian ACH - $30 PER batch
Epassporte $30 load fee
Webmoney $35 load fee


Then to pay the affiliates:

US Postal Check $1.5-5 per check
Euro/Sterling Check $4-5 per check
Paypal $2-3
US ACH $2-3
Canadian ACH $2-3
Epassporte $3-4
Revup Card $1-3
US Wire $18
International wire $35
Western Union $16-40
Webmoney $2.5 + .8%

Stamps, USPS Priority service, or Courier are also extra.

CIVMatt 04-18-2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 15713040)
ferrocash has $300 minimal payout

Which is exactly why you don't promote a company like that


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