Marcus

So I got my video camera and I have a small budget to make some movie content.

This is what I've always wanted to do, shooting amateur movies then charging people to see them.

I honestly wish I could sit in on a shoot while it's being done so I can see how a pro does things.

Since this is my very first time I have some questions.

1. Where do I find models? Should I just go to strippers? Are there agencies for this type of modelling? or do you put ads in an adult newspaper?

In Boston we have the Phoenix that has an adult section. It's very expensive to advertise there but I'll do it if that's how you all find models through ads in the paper.

2. I don't have a studio to shoot content, should I just get a hotel room for a night to start out, or does that look bad in camera and will the models be like "fuck off" if I suggest meeting them in a hotel room? You can always tell when something has been shot in a hotel room.

Are there studios I can rent out for this specific purpose?

3. How much do you pay models?
Whats standard for a girl solo, and whats standard for the girl and the guy in a hardcore shoot?

4. Should I just hire solo girls to do stuff on camera or is solo girl movie content boring and unwanted?

With 1 girl I could make lots of content, of her smoking, panties, with a dildo, foot fetish, food fetish.

5. This is probably a dumb question but if I'm shooting hardcore content do I just let them worry about safe sex? It's only my job to capture what they do on camera right?

Have any of you had a model come back to you and say that she caught an std from doing a hardcore shoot?

6. Do you have others with you when you shoot, or do you handle the whole shoot yourself there without assistants with you? Unfortunately I don't have any friends who are interested in doing this with me so I dont know what I'll need that I'm not thinking about.

Anything I forgot about? I know I have to talk to a lawyer to write up a standard model release.

If you had a problem with your first shoot I'd appreciate it if you'd talk about it so I can learn from any mistakes.

Once I can get the first 1 or 2 shoots done and content sold hopefully I'll have some more money not to have to worry about most of these things.

Thanks

multisexsite

If you were farther south I'd be an assistant to ya

Marcus

thanks :D

Brown Bear

Find girls here:

http://www.xratedjobs.com/ourmodels.html

Not all the girls on that site do boy/girl, but there are lots that do, use the contact form thing to book the girls or get more info on them and shit like that.

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Brown Bear

Find more sluts for hire here:

www.adultstaffing.com

You gotta pay a member fee to join, but there are lotsa sluts lookin to make a dime for swallowing your man chowder. Enjoy.

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Marcus

you rock!
thank you


wow, she's in my area
http://www.xratedjobs.com/models/female/22-Kiana.html

tarturon

I just love when Scumbags/Pervs try to put women's down so they can feel somehow superior!
The funny thing is you despise those women.. but most of those women despise you for being so Dumb and sexist!... Wake up!

RottenPug

for models go to www.onemodelplace.com
as far as the strip bars stay away girls are pricey
and whine for the most part about time, then try
to shake you down for more cash seeing they
are always on the hustle. Most of the time stripper
content doesn't convert well in the amateur market.


You don't need a hotel for night 4 hours will do ;) .


I have a model release if you need one.

Models range anywhere from 50 to 200 hour
some will charge you per scene. I would suggest
you negotiate with them if they feel you are new
they are like sharks in the water. Solo softcore with
some toys generally runs in the 100 range.

I have 2 girls do all my shoots it's easier for them
and most of the time the model will stay longer doing the
"girl chat thing"

Overall the content game right now is a bit saturated
but with some niche stuff you should do ok with it ;)


If you need anything let me know

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railz

I've always wanted to try this too. Anyone care to lend me a model and a still digicam?

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Marcus

Thanks RottenPug
Great site and information, it's really helpful to me.

Yes I actually do need a model release, should I send you a private message on here?

btw thats the cutest Pug ever :)
I love pugs and rotties

RottenPug

Marcus

Thanks boss

Shoot me an email

[email protected]

On another note make SURE you tell any model
that you will NOT shoot them unless they have two
forms of ID. You have no idea how many girls that
come up to the office that have to be sent on their
way because they tell you they have two and come
with one.

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Brown Bear

You make me laugh. I'm a pornographer. I make a living by selling pictures and videos of girls getting fucked and then swallowing cum. I don't despise those women, I love them because they make me big money.

You think I'm sexist because I call them sluts? What the fuck do you think a slut is? Because if a girl that fucks for money isn't a slut, I don't know what is.

Most of these girls would admit to being a slut anyways, and if you don't believe me, then just read this girls tattoo above her skanky pussy http://www.adultmodeljobs.com/models/female/22-Ivy.html

By the way, men are sluts too. Peter North is a slut whore. He fucks for money, and has appeared in over 700 porn films. http://us.imdb.com/Name?North,+Peter

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gornyhuy

Dude,
You have to make this totally sweet movie.... I guarantee it will make buckets of money. Here's the first scene:

Ninjas walk down street to go eat some food. Ninjas are all wearing black and looking totally sweet. There is some awesome music playing in the background to get the audience really pumped. Then some dude jumps out of nowhere. The ninjas start beating this guy's ass bad. Then the dude starts trying to run away, but one ninja pulls out a ninja star (ninja weapon) and throws it at the dude. The ninja star cuts the guy's head totally off. The head rolls over near this old dog that looks at the head and barfs all over the place, including the camera, which is awesome. The ninjas start flying and everybody starts screaming. Then the scene ends.

Well? What do you think?

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wow, thats one scary bitch!

vidvicious

Oddly enough I answered I post like this on another board yesterday...

First off your in the right place to do bussiness. Boston is full of college students, Starving college students! Find a good underground newspaper not a college pager, an underground paper. Underground papers usually have articles about porn, they also do alot of revues on Clubs, Alternative and Techno music ... etc this is the type of paper you want. Put in an ad looking for Adult models, Not models fpr adult work. Just adult models you can mention nudes if you like but that's not nessary. Be sure to mention that it's for web, video, magazine...etc. Leave a phone number not a mailbox number .. because with a mail box number you'll get more hang ups then calls. Oh and one more thing do not exclude Men or couples and do not put an age range (MILF's are gold). Next once these prospective "Models" call in. This is when you mention Nude, not sex, not hardcore and defintaly don't tell them your looking for anal ! LOL
Don't say more then needed and always mention that all information will be disclosed during the intial interview. During the interview you let the bag out of the cat so to speak ... You tell them there will be nudes, sex etc. But keep repeating that they will not be forced to do anything they are not comfortable with. If the interviewee is there for more then 5 minutes you've got them ... Don't Complement them on who good they look or tell them they will make lots of money .. either tell them your hourly rate or daily rate that's all. The amounts that thye could make will solely depend on them. Don't be scared to ask them to remove all they're clothing .. and by all means don't have a smile on your face when you ask this. During the interview have your best poker face .. Hell that goes for when your shooting too.
If you look eager you will not get anyone, not even the crack whores.
Take pictures of them nude (and post them here for evaluation, LOL) Full body shots, nothing exotic this is for your reference files. A frontal and back shot ..if you notice tattoo's or bruises take close up pitures of them ...
For male models I used to make them jerk off in front of a fully dress man. this is to prove to me that they can still preform under stress, Sorry it's not nessary for women or couples.
Get all the legal information ahead of time. They're ID , 2 photo Ids should be good, do not accept a student ID card as ID. Make a photocopy or photograph the ID. Have them sign a release form. A standard one is fine (you can easly fond them on the web). Even though they haven't preformed they need to sign it for your files .. Before every shoot Take a picture of they're ID, a Portrait of them (to make sure it's the same person) and have them sign a release. FOR EVERY SHOOT!


THe need for a stdio is not nessary but a great plus. However you do need a private office to do the interviews in.

I never need more then 2 hours to shoot a scene, but that's me, I've been shooting for 13 years.

Model Rates: Good question .. THere was a time when I paid $100 a shoot, but those days are gone. Most do it like this...

$100/hour solo no sex, no video
$200/Scene (Max 2 hours) For masturbation Solo
$150 or 200/hour for Girl/girl
$250 to 300/hour for Girl/guy

Daily rates based on 8 hour day
$600 solo
$800 Girl/Girl
$1000 Girl/Guy
$1200 Anal

These rate vary and I usual decide the rate based on the person I'm interviewing .. Hell I'll offer $50 if I think they'll take it ... That's what the interview process is for. you take notes on they're mood, posture ...etc

As for the rest of your questions I'll let you think about it .. Use common sense ... A word to the wise, Don't do this on your own, Just because you bought a camera and are ready to burn some cash doesn't make you a pornographer. It takes a certain type of person to pull this off. And if the only reason your doing this is to get your rocks off, Rent some movies and leave the real work to the pros. With this said I wish you the best of luck.. Should you deside to do this, Hit me up on ICQ, I'm a helpful guy ...

Cheers and Good luck

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tarturon

Yeah, thats a good argument! Pimps are saying the same thing...

What you might not understand is some women that qualify themselves as sluts are doing it because they like to be threated like that.. its like a domination type fantasy... and for the rest.. well, they are just brain dead...
Most girls with brain or without that type of "fantasy" take, being called sluts, as an insult...

and just by the way... the word slut doesnt have the same negative meaning when said about a man...
You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise...

BV

That's some very accurate good fucking advice!
The 13 years experience shows!

Marcus

vidvicious that information you gave is a big help to me.

Thanks everyone for the help

Seaz

Vid could you contact me on icq 19855000

UnseenWorld

Where (or, rather, how) to find models: http://www.afterglow-photo.com/allbooks.htm

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bhutocracy

this is such a good idea.


The other way you can get a house cheaply is by holiday letting through a real estate agent or private owner.. usually there is a 3 day minimum so if you're organised you can get through a few girls... and it's roughly at hotel rates..

twistyneck

Before you can even think about making a movie, you need a good screenplay. sheesh. What a bunch of amateurs. This should get you started.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...=screenwriting

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Paul Markham

By the questions you have asked you show that you are a complete novice at this. So no competition.

Advertising in an adult newspaper will get you nothing, it's for hookers and swingers. You might get lucky there. Use the local classifieds. Using strippers is a bad idea, they will fuck you around and be in charge, not a good idea. Go for students.

Yes there are studios but whether you have them where you are and whether they will let you shoot H/C in them is another mater. A hotel room, an amateur modelm, a newbie photographer =

How much to pay them? Who knows. In Russia they pay them $10 a day, in LA the agents want $100 an hour for solo no insertion. It's relevant.

If you can shooot solo like I do it's not boring, if you shoot bad Gang Bangs it's still boring.

Yes it is a dumb question. Penthouse settled out of court for $50K when a girl caught an STD on a shoot, I asume you have insurance for "Industrial accidents"

No do the shoot totally on your own and have the posibility of the girl charging with an assault charge, of course you have some one with you.

Yes see a lawyer.

Are you in for a lot of expenses and little to show for it.

Why is it that guys think they can pick up a camera and find a naked girl and HEY PRESTO they are pornographers???

My advise iis hire a hooker to come around and film her for your own pleasures. Then go out and buy in good content for your website. But WTF do I know only been a pornographer 25 years.

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vidvicious

your welcome Marcus ..

Be careful outthere .. remember that there is always someone lurking in the bushes that wants you to fail ...

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...and juding by Charly's condascending attitude, I think he's one of them.

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Marcus

Thanks

I got a lot of help offline also, I do my first shoot this Saturday
I'm buying extra lamps tonight for lighting.

I dont care about people who want to see me fail, whatever gets their rocks off I guess.


Pig fighting wont put any money in my pocket, and might prevent some people from doing business with me in the future.

I think most people are actually nice once they get to know you.

Mutt

good advice from vidvicious and charly, pretty accurate info.


models are expensive, and if you need a steady supply of them relying on classified ads won't be good enough. Those girls are the best those, the 'pro' girls and strippers will be just looking out for the clock and have their hands out for more money.

One Model Place is ok but you won't get many responses.

WantonGirls pays very well, some girls get $900 per day just for photos and maybe a solo masturbation video.

Agents are fucking losers. Arrogant fuckers, i have one who won't return emails or calls. I will spend more money with this guy if he would do biz with me than i guarantee 99% of his other clients but i guess he's a snob or something. His models are getting shortchanged by him, i have jobs for them at great pay but if he won't give them the information they can't do it. I'm tracking down the models on my own and will be letting them know how this guy does business.

Shoot something different/niche. I really think the amateur blowjob thing in a motel room is getting really played out.

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Marcus,

What type of lighting and camera equipment are you using?

The quality of these items will weigh a lot into the overall end result.

you should icq me, I have an old roomate from NY that used to be able to recruit a new girl every night she went out to a bar or club. These were first timers too Not the same old faces everyone has shot.

I am actually flying home for thanksgiving in a day or two and could hook you guys up if she is game still.

Spankstrocko
ICQ#174407062

spankstrocko

Try these

www.modelgig.com
www.sstm.net


Spanktrocko

Marcus

Well for my first shoot it's just going to be a guy jerking off on the couch. He's tattoed spanish twink guy with an accent and looks like a gang member. It'll be good practice.

I'm getting 3 GE Reveal lights and I'll put the 3 lights on each side so there's no shadows.

And I just have a Sony TRV25 for a cam.

Thanks for the resources and the offer to help, I'll see how this first one turns out.