anyone interested in a new revenue stream using text chat with live girls?

[RogerV]

check this out http://www.candychat.com/gotv/

Soon it will be live for webmasters if interested post in this thread

[IllTestYourGirls]

how much you paying?

[CIVMatt]

Interested if I can redesign my own site white label style, that doesn't look so hot

[psili]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

how much you paying?

Just curious from a technical perspective with what I'llTestYourGirls posted:

1. There must be some money to be made from SMS, and not just by the carrier and aggregator who get most of the chunk from the premium SMS charges (unless something's changed in the past couple of years). Otherwise, the late-night commercials for horoscopes, love advice, yadda yadda wouldn't be on.

2. The price point per premium message is usually around $.99. I have no idea what the program gets of that cut after carrier and aggregator, but the affiliate would get even less.

3. Or, is it a pay-per-phone-number program?

Am I missing something? Because it'd be sweet to hear about how a company monetizes on SMS as they must exist.

[WiredGuy]

Have you cleared this landing page with your SMS aggregator as it seems to not be compliant with quite a few mobile marketing rules. Especially because you don't have the short code public for texting STOP to. The terms are hidden in the background image and the terms are below the fold of the page.
WG

[scouser]

looks like (or is?) aaliyah love...

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by psili

Just curious from a technical perspective with what I'llTestYourGirls posted:

1. There must be some money to be made from SMS, and not just by the carrier and aggregator who get most of the chunk from the premium SMS charges (unless something's changed in the past couple of years). Otherwise, the late-night commercials for horoscopes, love advice, yadda yadda wouldn't be on.

2. The price point per premium message is usually around $.99. I have no idea what the program gets of that cut after carrier and aggregator, but the affiliate would get even less.

3. Or, is it a pay-per-phone-number program?

Am I missing something? Because it'd be sweet to hear about how a company monetizes on SMS as they must exist.

1. There is definately money to be made. Not only from your observation of late-night commercials but also knowing that there are over 255 million mobile users in the US who sent over 48 BILLION text messages last quarter

2. The wireless carrier takes about 50% of the retail price and affiliates can make up to 20-25% depending on volume

3. Most programs will want to do a straight rev share. Also remember there are no charge backs and anyone with the most basic crap mobile phone can participate.

This along with most mobile services are still in a growth stage... there is still money to be made here.

Hit me up if anyone wants more info... I have been doing this for years

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by deadmoon

looks like (or is?) aaliyah love...

was wondering the same thing

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Interested if I can redesign my own site white label style, that doesn't look so hot

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Have you cleared this landing page with your SMS aggregator as it seems to not be compliant with quite a few mobile marketing rules. Especially because you don't have the short code public for texting STOP to. The terms are hidden in the background image and the terms are below the fold of the page.
WG

Sounds like you know the business and thanks for your comments.

I am not sure about the not listing the sort code since there is no way to join this service without getting a message first which would show the short code.

Terms are hidden in the background? I don't agree with that.

The terms are below the fold of the page depending on the size of your monitor and there is no way to start the service with out scrolling to the bottom to click the button so I don't see a problem here.

One thing that may be a problem is Aaliyah Love's ass... damn that is hot



Thanks

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by FreshKidIce

Sounds like you know the business and thanks for your comments.

I am not sure about the not listing the sort code since there is no way to join this service without getting a message first which would show the short code.

Terms are hidden in the background? I don't agree with that.

The terms are below the fold of the page depending on the size of your monitor and there is no way to start the service with out scrolling to the bottom to click the button so I don't see a problem here.

One thing that may be a problem is Aaliyah Love's ass... damn that is hot



Thanks

The short code is supposed to be on the service landing page as well as when receiving texts from the service. The background image where Aaliyah and the blonde with the tattoo are reading the text is overlapping with the T&C making it not legible. I believe the last time I did a mobile campaign, the aggregators required the terms & service above the fold on an 800x600 page which is what I'm trying it on. The link to Terms and Service is also hidden, the text is clickable to a link but not clearly a link. The candychat.com page is fine, its the link Roger posted which doesn't seem compliant.
WG

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

The short code is supposed to be on the service landing page as well as when receiving texts from the service. The background image where Aaliyah and the blonde with the tattoo are reading the text is overlapping with the T&C making it not legible. I believe the last time I did a mobile campaign, the aggregators required the terms & service above the fold on an 800x600 page which is what I'm trying it on. The link to Terms and Service is also hidden, the text is clickable to a link but not clearly a link. The candychat.com page is fine, its the link Roger posted which doesn't seem compliant.
WG

Yea stop tearing my page a new ass hole

lets get you going and we can set your page up just like candychats this will make some big cash if you have traffic I have it on my tube which is doing great soon will add it to members area of our pornsites etc.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

The short code is supposed to be on the service landing page as well as when receiving texts from the service. The background image where Aaliyah and the blonde with the tattoo are reading the text is overlapping with the T&C making it not legible. I believe the last time I did a mobile campaign, the aggregators required the terms & service above the fold on an 800x600 page which is what I'm trying it on. The link to Terms and Service is also hidden, the text is clickable to a link but not clearly a link. The candychat.com page is fine, its the link Roger posted which doesn't seem compliant.
WG

Lets get you going hit me on ICQ

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Yea stop tearing my page a new ass hole

lets get you going and we can set your page up just like candychats this will make some big cash if you have traffic I have it on my tube which is doing great soon will add it to members area of our pornsites etc.

Hey, i'm just looking out for you Roger ;)
Better me than a fine from the aggregators. I've had to go thru tons of hoops from those people that I've scrapped tons of pages because of them, lol.
WG

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

The short code is supposed to be on the service landing page as well as when receiving texts from the service. The background image where Aaliyah and the blonde with the tattoo are reading the text is overlapping with the T&C making it not legible. I believe the last time I did a mobile campaign, the aggregators required the terms & service above the fold on an 800x600 page which is what I'm trying it on. The link to Terms and Service is also hidden, the text is clickable to a link but not clearly a link. The candychat.com page is fine, its the link Roger posted which doesn't seem compliant.
WG

I can't replicate the overlapping issue on IE but I'll look into it as well as the other issues you mention

Thanks again

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Hey, i'm just looking out for you Roger ;)
Better me than a fine from the aggregators. I've had to go thru tons of hoops from those people that I've scrapped tons of pages because of them, lol.
WG

Right on. the page looks fine to me. they are looking at it and will fix it.

you still promoting text chat stuff?

[Si]

aaliyah love will always sell

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Right on. the page looks fine to me. they are looking at it and will fix it.

you still promoting text chat stuff?

yeah, I moved quite a bit towards ringtones instead lately though. What does the program pay? Can you do at least $11/confirmed pin?
WG

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Have you cleared this landing page with your SMS aggregator as it seems to not be compliant with quite a few mobile marketing rules. Especially because you don't have the short code public for texting STOP to. The terms are hidden in the background image and the terms are below the fold of the page.
WG

I was thinking a lot of the same things. It's sad after promoting that stuff hard that I even notice little things like that when looking at other sites.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

yeah, I moved quite a bit towards ringtones instead lately though. What does the program pay? Can you do at least $11/confirmed pin?
WG

going to send some SE traffic to it this week I'll let you know Its not my program I just know the guys well. I think they are just paying a % of the min right now but I'll check

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I was thinking a lot of the same things. It's sad after promoting that stuff hard that I even notice little things like that when looking at other sites.

You have to these days or you forfeit your entire earnings. With mainstreamers doing net 30 - net 60, a loss like that can be catastrophic.
WG

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

yeah, I moved quite a bit towards ringtones instead lately though. What does the program pay? Can you do at least $11/confirmed pin?
WG

WiredGuy, I am working with Roger on this and its a different payout model. You should just try it and you'll see how it works.

Ian's Jen at MistyMobile.com is doing it with great success.

Contact me directly and we can discuss.

[email protected]

thanks

[FreshKidIce]

I am working with Roger on this, contact me directly and I can give you more info.

[email protected]

-Andy

[Biggy]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

The short code is supposed to be on the service landing page as well as when receiving texts from the service. The background image where Aaliyah and the blonde with the tattoo are reading the text is overlapping with the T&C making it not legible. I believe the last time I did a mobile campaign, the aggregators required the terms & service above the fold on an 800x600 page which is what I'm trying it on. The link to Terms and Service is also hidden, the text is clickable to a link but not clearly a link. The candychat.com page is fine, its the link Roger posted which doesn't seem compliant.
WG

Do you know where to get a copy of the rules, or a sample copy?

[tranza]

good luck and bump for you!

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Interested if I can redesign my own site white label style, that doesn't look so hot

CIVMatt, you can design your own page but it has to be cleared. As you can see from other posts there are super tight rules when dealing with wireless carriers.

Contact me directly if you want/need more info.

[email protected]

-Andy

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by Biggy

Do you know where to get a copy of the rules, or a sample copy?

These rules are less than clear and easy. Several carriers have their own rules but in general you can check out the MMA (Mobile Marketing Association) Policies and Guidelines

[JustJen]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

You have to these days or you forfeit your entire earnings. With mainstreamers doing net 30 - net 60, a loss like that can be catastrophic.
WG

Charles, only u coulf bring me back to GFY. u r a party pooper. Correct, but a party pooper. They know what they are doing though and no one needs to worry about the compliance as they are experts on it.

Andy, I am NOT "Ian's Jen"

[asianseekerz]

um its a good idea well we will study that heheheh!!!!!!!

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by FreshKidIce

You should just try it and you'll see how it works.

Not the best way to get a volume player to change affiliate programs

Just sayin.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by Biggy

Do you know where to get a copy of the rules, or a sample copy?

I typically use FunMobile's marketing policies as a guideline as they're the most strict. I'll get you a link on Monday, I think its about 10 pages or so.
WG

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by JustJen

Charles, only u coulf bring me back to GFY. u r a party pooper. Correct, but a party pooper. They know what they are doing though and no one needs to worry about the compliance as they are experts on it.

Andy, I am NOT "Ian's Jen"

LOL, hi Jen
WG

[AaliyahLove]

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

aaliyah love will always sell

awww thanx mobilefun!
Yes, it's me! We shot the commercial with Ashley Fires, Monique Alexander, Sunny Leone and Stephanie Swift and I had a blast!! I'm surprised they got the pics up so fast, I can't wait to see the commercial!! Good luck guys!

[JustJen]

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove

awww thanx mobilefun!
Yes, it's me! We shot the commercial with Ashley Fires, Monique Alexander, Sunny Leone and Stephanie Swift and I had a blast!! I'm surprised they got the pics up so fast, I can't wait to see the commercial!! Good luck guys!

I will email it to you as soon as we get it finished. Should be by EOM You were great and it was very nice meeting you

[fusionx]

This gave me an idea. Text chat with dead girls.

Sort of a John Edward psychic talking with the dead thing.. 'I can feel a presence.. it's a woman.. it's.. your dead wife.. she's here with me.. she says she loves and misses you'... etc..

He's getting $80 a head for a live show..

Great entertainment value

[TheDoc]

WG or someone, maybe you guys can clear this up..

Are you guys connected to a backend (the providers) so you can bill them through the phone bill, ie the phone company or whatever pays you and charges them?

I ask because of the rules.. Someone else is controlling your marketing, I assume because you are using something they own.

[Belinda]

Sent an email. Would love more info.

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by JustJen

Charles, only u coulf bring me back to GFY. u r a party pooper. Correct, but a party pooper. They know what they are doing though and no one needs to worry about the compliance as they are experts on it.

Andy, I am NOT "Ian's Jen"

haha... sorry didn't know how else to describe you

[AaliyahLove]

Originally Posted by JustJen

I will email it to you as soon as we get it finished. Should be by EOM You were great and it was very nice meeting you

Thanx Jen! I had a great time working with you guys plz hit me up for any future projects XOXO

[Jman]

Interesting thread, Roger could you make a non nude page that is tarteged towards the tattoo niche?

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

WG or someone, maybe you guys can clear this up..

Are you guys connected to a backend (the providers) so you can bill them through the phone bill, ie the phone company or whatever pays you and charges them?

I ask because of the rules.. Someone else is controlling your marketing, I assume because you are using something they own.

You are correct. We have a billing relationship with wireless carriers so users who participate get billed directly on their phone bill. Thus the "rules". We can do our own marketing but must stay within the guidelines.

The good thing is the carrier collects for us (or they deduct from pre-paid) so no bad debt. The bad part is we have to play by their marketing rules. We go as aggressive as we can and sometimes get hands slapped but that?s just the game

[FreshKidIce]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Not the best way to get a volume player to change affiliate programs

Just sayin.

Fuzebox, good advice, you are right. Are you with another affiliate program for Text Chat? Would love to compare if you are.

As for my "try it and see" comment, since this isn't the usual web stuff the best way to understand this is to try it from your own phone to see how it works. I can see this as a good fit for decline traffic also.

Thanks

[tony286]

a bump for roger