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Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

I think many things are wrong but I still do it
Just like smoking and drinking whats your point?

Just cause I think its wrong to show under age kids porn I should quit I'm still going to make sure they don't see anything when they get to my sites but i can't control everyone else so i have to join them?
All I was trying to figure out is why some people hate one thing and not another.

I'm sure i get traffic from spam and Tgp's I never hide the fact i do.
do I know all the acounts? hell no
do I turn acounts off. yes it all depends on many factors

damn after reading my last post it sounded bad the way i posted it.
the whole time I said I think its wrong to show under aged kids porn.whats wrong with that?
we don't show anything on our sites without a credit card
maybe a little tits and ass
but I can't control all the traffic coming into our programs.

if it is illegal in anyway we shut them off if we catch it.

the one thing i am totally against is the free shit kids can see thru any type of marketing tactics

dickblast · 11-17-2002, 01:07 AM

some of ur sites show penetration in the tour

like i said u don't HAVE to do it but putting up warning pages joining/donating to asacp using netnanny etc

its all little things that take 5 minutes that show u give a fuck

most new programs dont do it because they r under the radar, all the big boys do

roger is being truthful tho, all big programs will allow affiliates 2 spam until they get busted only depends on how many sales they make to determine when they cut them off and whether they pay em or not

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dickblast
some of ur sites show penetration in the tour

like i said u don't HAVE to do it but putting up warning pages joining/donating to asacp using netnanny etc

its all little things that take 5 minutes that show u give a fuck

most new programs dont do it because they r under the radar, all the big boys do

roger is being truthful tho, all big programs will allow affiliates 2 spam until they get busted only depends on how many sales they make to determine when they cut them off and whether they pay em or not

I'm not speaking for every sponsor but..
its not that we allow it, its just hard to catch unless we get complaints.

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dickblast
some of ur sites show penetration in the tour

like i said u don't HAVE to do it but putting up warning pages joining/donating to asacp using netnanny etc

its all little things that take 5 minutes that show u give a fuck

most new programs dont do it because they r under the radar, all the big boys do

roger is being truthful tho, all big programs will allow affiliates 2 spam until they get busted only depends on how many sales they make to determine when they cut them off and whether they pay em or not

are you serious? which site? we don't have tours?

dickblast · 11-17-2002, 01:18 AM

that jungle bush one

i just looked at a couple till i saw one

*shrug*

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by dickblast
that jungle bush one

i just looked at a couple till i saw one

*shrug*

damn that was our latest release junglehair and I never looked at the tours just home page. but I will remove it. we out source our new sites now and I don't always review them now but it looks like I have to again
good catch

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:24 AM

actually dickblast we don't jungle bush is someone elses program.
junglehair is ours and has not penetration

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 01:27 AM

Adult spam is bad because it can go to a kid, etc. I think email spammers who send adult spam are irresponsible in that regard. Besides, it's illegal and costs people money who have nothing to do with it.

I think TGPs are even worse. Not only do they let anyone see porn, meaning that kids will get easy access to it, but they're also bad for business. A glut of free porn only makes it harder for paysites to make money, and that's where all our money comes from, ultimately. In addition, leaving all this porn out there in the open will eventually come back to bite the industry in the ass in the form of government regulation.

Much as I hate the idea of the government even noticing us, I can't wait for that.

Reminds of of crazy Travis the taxi driver: "Someday a real rain's gonna come and wash all this trash off the street." ;)

I don't blame people who run TGPs. I have no problem with them because they don't host the stuff themselves and are smart enough to make money from the labor of others. The regulation will affect them, but it will be directed against the gallery-makers, and that will help those of us who don't do this for beer money.

I know I bitch about TGPs in almost every post I make, but really, I'm not too concerned because I believe they will go away fairly soon.

What do you know, I've gone and gone off-topic.

dickblast · 11-17-2002, 01:29 AM

what do u mean outsource

i know a co. who is cutting deals like that doing sites 50/50 with big programs

maybe i can set u up

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:32 AM

fuck it
its all good

we can all agree to disagree and we can all make money with our own morals and values and not worry about what others think.

now I'm going out to get fucked up.

Peace out to everyone have a good Sunday

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Redbone
I know I bitch about TGPs in almost every post I make, but really, I'm not too concerned because I believe they will go away fairly soon.

oh please. spam is way higher on the list of things to regulate. mothers and religious zealots that get spammed teen porn in there inbox will react. if they don't type in thehun.com - they don't see it in their face, day after day. after day.

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

oh please. spam is way higher on the list of things to regulate. mothers and religious zealots that get spammed teen porn in there inbox will react. if they don't type in thehun.com - they don't see it in their face, day after day. after day.

so are we kewl?

but what about when the kid does a search and lands on a tgp site.

looking for free toys and gets porn?

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

So are we kewl?

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

so does that mean we are having a beer together?

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 01:39 AM

I don't think they can really regulate spam. I'm not against regulating it either, but I question the effectiveness of the attempt. TGPs, on the other hand, can much more easily be shut down.

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 01:40 AM

Is anyone NOT drinking? I am, but that's not unusual... Breakfast of champions, etc.

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

but what about when the kid does a search and lands on a tgp site.

looking for free toys and gets porn?

certainly a problem. but it is pretty obvious politically that porn spam is higher on the hit list. precisely because it's in the parent/religious zealot/right wingers face.

i suppose i could search for something on google, and run into a cp site. but that is rare. a parent getting spammed a dozen times daily with porn is going to react.

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:42 AM

the bottom line is as long as all that free shit is not censored
wether it comes from spam or tgp's or whatever

we will catch heat from everyone against Porn.

cherrylula · 11-17-2002, 01:42 AM

feel free to make your way into my who is still drink thead hehe

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

so does that mean we are having a beer together?:glugglug

if you're buying ;)

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
the bottom line is as long as all that free shit is not censored
wether it comes from spam or tgp's or whatever

we will catch heat from everyone against Porn.

i don't agree. i think we will continue to catch heat, for as long as there is a porn industry. it will always be on the fringe of society. that is precisely the reason it sells as it does.

in other words, for as long as any of us continue to work in this industry.

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

if you're buying ;)

anytime

hopefully we can meet in vegas

and laugh at the shit we say on the boards.
sometimes its a good place for me to vent

again if you took my post wrong i apologize.

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 01:52 AM

I think Pornkings is right... Once there is a real age-verification process in place and no explicit shit outside it (the "plain-brown-wrapper" standard I mentioned in some other thread), the "heat" we catch will get turned way down. The industry is fringe and we're widely hated, but when we get our collective act together they will mostly leave us alone.

The current administration might have us all executed, though, proving me wrong.

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i don't agree. i think we will continue to catch heat, for as long as there is a porn industry. it will always be on the fringe of society. that is precisely the reason it sells as it does.

in other words, for as long as any of us continue to work in this industry.

I have to agree and this is my last post

look on the first page
I said
I remember when i wasn't sure if I should get into this business because of the bad stigma attached to it.

your right we are just all Porn peddlers

quiet · 11-17-2002, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redbone
I think Pornkings is right... Once there is a real age-verification process in place and no explicit shit outside it (the "plain-brown-wrapper" standard I mentioned in some other thread), the "heat" we catch will get turned way down. The industry is fringe and we're widely hated, but when we get our collective act together they will mostly leave us alone.

The current administration might have us all executed, though, proving me wrong.

i don't see this at all. if you look at the history of porn, it is a progression. whatever is considered porn, has been (and i think always will be) considered controversial.

if north america's puritanical tendencies disappeared, the market for porn would be decimated.

p1mpd0g · 11-17-2002, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i don't see this at all. if you look at the history of porn, it is a progression. whatever is considered porn, has been (and i think always will be) considered controversial.

if north america's puritanical tendencies disappeared, the market for porn would be decimated.

hehe i had to look this word up 'puritanical '

Sambuka · 11-17-2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

Like I said you got no balls cause you can't answer the question
you have to answer it with a question.

also we have double opt in mail if you call that spam then fine.

No one can answer this question?

I guess most people are just followers in the industry

How do you as a webmaster determine what is right and what is wrong to do?

I remember when i wasn't sure if I should get into this business because of the bad stigma attached to it.

If it makes money and doesn't HURT anybody I'll do it. And NO I do not feel leaving my sites open to children to look at as something bad at all. If they are on the internet then they should have blocking software and all my sites are registered with ACLA or whatever there called.

Sammy

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 02:02 AM

Quiet, I'm talking about legal restrictions only, not about the reason it's a valuable industry. The "plain brown wrapper" standard I alluded to is actually a result of a Supreme Court decision, which is where the phrase originated, I believe. They're not going to try to eliminate porn, but their continuing efforts to keep it "at bay" will help to keep it valuable, I think... I am not sure if we're really in disagreement.

quiet · 11-17-2002, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redbone
Quiet, I'm talking about legal restrictions only, not about the reason it's a valuable industry. The "plain brown wrapper" standard I alluded to is actually a result of a Supreme Court decision, which is where the phrase originated, I believe. They're not going to try to eliminate porn, but their continuing efforts to keep it "at bay" will help to keep it valuable, I think... I am not sure if we're really in disagreement.

i don't really think we are either.

what i'm saying is this: as long as there is 'porn', there will always be an edge that is walked. the edge between what the puritanicals argue against, and what we do. when playboy first came out - look out. that WAS hardcore porn.

then larry flynt, and his famous shots of girls with there legs spread - gasp.

no matter where the edge lies, said edge is where porn will exist (and where it will get it's definition from). regardless of the specifics (showing ankle/nude girls/spread legs/tgps/porn spam/max hardcore/etc).

Redbone · 11-17-2002, 02:14 AM

Ok. Yes.

Spunkyed · 11-17-2002, 02:27 AM

spam is good
tgp is good
porn is good
its all fuckin good

i do what i do and I dont care what you do... cause my checks never bounce... and nobody here pays my bills, so the opinions dont matter

Backov · 11-17-2002, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
so how did this thread turn out to blast me again?
Looks like a few people feel like I'm stomping on there turf.

Like i said in the beginning of it its not a battle

just wondering why people think TGP's are ok but spam isn't.

To me they both should be shut down if underaged kids have access.

but I have to deal with both and you don't see me saying
ahh your a fucking Porn peddler or tgp webmaster>

I don't bash anyone show me one thread were I talked shit to someone first the only time is when someone starts it with me

Who gives a shit about the kids. I don't.

Spam is not ok because spam=theft of services.

33% of email is spam. The spammers don't pay for that bandwidth, the recipients do.

Spammers are almost always scum - doing stuff like rooting machines, exploiting insecure formmails, open relays, forging headers, "joe jobbing" anti-spam activists, making deceptive subject lines, etc etc..

Spammers are thieving scum. TGP owners are not. They just have a different biz approach that may or may not be harmful to this industry.

Cheers,
Backov

Pornkings · 11-17-2002, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
what is worse

many questions

Spam
TGP's
Or just plain Porn on the internet

I notice how people think selling porn is ok but they are against spam or TGp's or whatever else

Why are people against spam but not all the other tactics to get traffic?

I guess what I'm asking is.
how do you set your morals to what is right and what is wrong in this business as far as marketing goes and why?

Personally I think anything goes as long as Under age kids can't see porn without parental supervision.

I wonder how Tele marketing would do for pornsites

It would be kinda funny.
Ask for the man of the house.
need a sales pitch of some sort
give them a user and password to get in free for like an hour
and if they decide to stay give them 1/2 price of the normal membership.

has anyone tried postal bulk-mailing to specific demographic groups?

Gemini · 11-17-2002, 05:21 AM

i had to look this word up 'puritanical

I have no doubt that you DID have to look it up...

Dudette

UncleJimmy · 11-17-2002, 10:15 AM

"tgps are run like any normal business, u pay the expenses required to provide a service. "

???

And email marketers pay for scripts, hosting, buy lists, etc....

big deal, anything can be run like a normal biz (ie, the mob, drug dealers, etc)

I think the question here is who crosses the line and pushes truely offensive crap in unwanting peoples faces, who lets kids get into free shit? what's legal, what's not, etc etc etc

Personally I see no harm in running an effective email marketing biz, as long as one is responsible about it, same for TGP as long as it's behind a good warning page & can be filtered out by parents, etc...

Hardcore content in and sent to harvested emails and hardcore out in the open on a TGP is truely irresponsible imo, and only asking for more legislation which I'm certain is on the way :/

nocostporn · 11-17-2002, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spunky
spam is good
tgp is good
porn is good
its all fuckin good

i do what i do and I dont care what you do... cause my checks never bounce... and nobody here pays my bills, so the opinions dont matter

that mentality is the whole problem,"If it makes me money I'm going to do it"...Soon those options wont be there when an outside force steps in... everything isnt "all good",a bulk of the money made in this biz is made in an "all bad" sense whether you want to define good and bad doesnt really matter,its not up to us when the laws come out....

drops · 11-17-2002, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spunky
spam is good
tgp is good
porn is good
its all fuckin good

i do what i do and I dont care what you do... cause my checks never bounce... and nobody here pays my bills, so the opinions dont matter

AMEN

dickblast · 11-17-2002, 01:16 PM

u should listen to Backov, because he is echoing the statements of ppl who matter in ur spammer lives.

they're the ppl who will follow u around to each of ur hosts (and hopefully cc processors) and get u banned from each one.

enjoy

Spunkyed · 11-17-2002, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

that mentality is the whole problem,"If it makes me money I'm going to do it"...Soon those options wont be there when an outside force steps in... everything isnt "all good",a bulk of the money made in this biz is made in an "all bad" sense whether you want to define good and bad doesnt really matter,its not up to us when the laws come out....

Did I say that I send out spam? nope!
"you assume too much..."

I just said that its all good, and I dont care what YOU do... cause uh, I just dont

DrewKole · 11-17-2002, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spunky

Did I say that I send out spam? nope!
"you assume too much..."

I just said that its all good, and I dont care what YOU do... cause uh, I just dont

Uhh, ya you do... =)

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Spunkyed · 11-17-2002, 07:09 PM

I believe the post was referring to email spam?

so mind your business, the adults here are talking

Spunkyed · 11-17-2002, 07:11 PM

DrewKole, arent you the guy with all the rape sites?

really classy shit

DrewKole · 11-17-2002, 07:27 PM

Post some proof... a google on the name drewkole doesn't work either, since some rape CP decided to use the hun's source and change the descriptions.

I use my real name, business, and address on all my whois's...

I've never had anything to do with rape, scat, cp, beastiality, or anything else I personally deem immoral.

So post some proof, or shut the fuck up. =)

Spunkyed · 11-17-2002, 08:14 PM

shut the fuck up?

man i just asked a question. But go ahead and talk tough here, because you damn sure wouldnt do it in my presence.

11-17-2002, 01:07 AM	#152
dickblast Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ben Curtis's Tour Bus Posts: 666	some of ur sites show penetration in the tour like i said u don't HAVE to do it but putting up warning pages joining/donating to asacp using netnanny etc its all little things that take 5 minutes that show u give a fuck most new programs dont do it because they r under the radar, all the big boys do roger is being truthful tho, all big programs will allow affiliates 2 spam until they get busted only depends on how many sales they make to determine when they cut them off and whether they pay em or not __________________ Ben Curtis is a Ninja

11-17-2002, 01:18 AM	#155
dickblast Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ben Curtis's Tour Bus Posts: 666	that jungle bush one i just looked at a couple till i saw one shrug __________________ Ben Curtis is a Ninja

11-17-2002, 01:24 AM	#157
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	actually dickblast we don't jungle bush is someone elses program. junglehair is ours and has not penetration __________________ Pornkings.com Last edited by Pornkings; 11-17-2002 at 01:27 AM..

11-17-2002, 01:27 AM	#158
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	Adult spam is bad because it can go to a kid, etc. I think email spammers who send adult spam are irresponsible in that regard. Besides, it's illegal and costs people money who have nothing to do with it. I think TGPs are even worse. Not only do they let anyone see porn, meaning that kids will get easy access to it, but they're also bad for business. A glut of free porn only makes it harder for paysites to make money, and that's where all our money comes from, ultimately. In addition, leaving all this porn out there in the open will eventually come back to bite the industry in the ass in the form of government regulation. Much as I hate the idea of the government even noticing us, I can't wait for that. Reminds of of crazy Travis the taxi driver: "Someday a real rain's gonna come and wash all this trash off the street." ;) I don't blame people who run TGPs. I have no problem with them because they don't host the stuff themselves and are smart enough to make money from the labor of others. The regulation will affect them, but it will be directed against the gallery-makers, and that will help those of us who don't do this for beer money. I know I bitch about TGPs in almost every post I make, but really, I'm not too concerned because I believe they will go away fairly soon. What do you know, I've gone and gone off-topic. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 01:29 AM	#159
dickblast Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ben Curtis's Tour Bus Posts: 666	what do u mean outsource i know a co. who is cutting deals like that doing sites 50/50 with big programs maybe i can set u up __________________ Ben Curtis is a Ninja

11-17-2002, 01:32 AM	#160
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	fuck it its all good we can all agree to disagree and we can all make money with our own morals and values and not worry about what others think. now I'm going out to get fucked up. Peace out to everyone have a good Sunday __________________ Pornkings.com

11-17-2002, 01:39 AM	#165
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	I don't think they can really regulate spam. I'm not against regulating it either, but I question the effectiveness of the attempt. TGPs, on the other hand, can much more easily be shut down. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 01:40 AM	#166
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	Is anyone NOT drinking? I am, but that's not unusual... Breakfast of champions, etc. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 01:42 AM	#168
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	the bottom line is as long as all that free shit is not censored wether it comes from spam or tgp's or whatever we will catch heat from everyone against Porn. __________________ Pornkings.com

11-17-2002, 01:42 AM	#169
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	feel free to make your way into my who is still drink thead hehe

11-17-2002, 01:52 AM	#173
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	I think Pornkings is right... Once there is a real age-verification process in place and no explicit shit outside it (the "plain-brown-wrapper" standard I mentioned in some other thread), the "heat" we catch will get turned way down. The industry is fringe and we're widely hated, but when we get our collective act together they will mostly leave us alone. The current administration might have us all executed, though, proving me wrong. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 02:02 AM	#178
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	Quiet, I'm talking about legal restrictions only, not about the reason it's a valuable industry. The "plain brown wrapper" standard I alluded to is actually a result of a Supreme Court decision, which is where the phrase originated, I believe. They're not going to try to eliminate porn, but their continuing efforts to keep it "at bay" will help to keep it valuable, I think... I am not sure if we're really in disagreement. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 02:14 AM	#180
Redbone Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 323	Ok. Yes. __________________ Pffffffftttttttth. I'm done.

11-17-2002, 02:27 AM	#181
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	spam is good tgp is good porn is good its all fuckin good i do what i do and I dont care what you do... cause my checks never bounce... and nobody here pays my bills, so the opinions dont matter

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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	i had to look this word up 'puritanical I have no doubt that you DID have to look it up... Dudette

11-17-2002, 10:15 AM	#185
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dickblast Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ben Curtis's Tour Bus Posts: 666	u should listen to Backov, because he is echoing the statements of ppl who matter in ur spammer lives. they're the ppl who will follow u around to each of ur hosts (and hopefully cc processors) and get u banned from each one. enjoy __________________ Ben Curtis is a Ninja

11-17-2002, 07:09 PM	#191
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	I believe the post was referring to email spam? so mind your business, the adults here are talking

11-17-2002, 07:11 PM	#192
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	DrewKole, arent you the guy with all the rape sites? really classy shit

11-17-2002, 07:27 PM	#193
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Post some proof... a google on the name drewkole doesn't work either, since some rape CP decided to use the hun's source and change the descriptions. I use my real name, business, and address on all my whois's... I've never had anything to do with rape, scat, cp, beastiality, or anything else I personally deem immoral. So post some proof, or shut the fuck up. =)

11-17-2002, 08:14 PM	#194
Spunkyed So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 290	shut the fuck up? man i just asked a question. But go ahead and talk tough here, because you damn sure wouldnt do it in my presence.