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FTVGirls · 11-13-2002, 10:06 PM

I currently run with ccbill; their service and reliability is good -- however after all their processing fees and such, more than 25% of the gross sales goes to ccbill... it really bites.

Now I have been contacted by comanies like http://www.netbilling.com/ and such which have far lower processing fees. Question is, I wish to keep quality customer service for members and such, and does these other sites really have lower quality services or parameters? I hear many are moving to globill for example.

Any comments or opinions?

m0rph3us · 11-13-2002, 10:11 PM

From my experience ccbill has been horrible as far as sales & rebills.

Ibill works great.

ibill/ccbill/epoch all offer services that do not require you to have a merchant account (hence the 11-15% fee).

Netbilling helps you get a merchant and process transactions through your merchant (that's why fees are lower), however you have to REALLY monitor your CB% because once you go over a threshold you can lose the merchant and get on the TMF (never be able to bill again).

Then again, you have to watch your CB% with ibill/ccbill too .. so where's the benefit :-/

FTVGirls · 11-13-2002, 10:22 PM

Since I'm new to this business, when you say ccbill is horrible with sales/rebills, what do you mean? Somehow there are problems with sales & rebills?
I do get a lot of people who try to sign on and get the 'transaction denied due to...' and so on.

Splicer · 11-13-2002, 10:30 PM

Scrubbing motherfuckers!

I think what he means is exactly what's happening to you.
For some webmasters certain companies work better than others 'cause they have more slaes and rebills.
This is due in part to the policies of each company (and the way they handle the actual billing and rebilling).

Best thing to do is have at least two processors. And put Ccbill as alternate or get rid of it all together if you're getting all those denials.

FTVGirls · 11-13-2002, 10:35 PM

So recommendations?

Ibill? Globill? other? I chose ccbill because it was one of the largest companies, and it happens to have its corporate office only a few miles away from me.

More input please

))

Fatbrain · 11-13-2002, 10:43 PM

I've been with Globill for 2 years...Customer Service is EXCELLENT and I have only had 2 chargebacks during my stay with them...They are prompt on support too!

If your up to it (how I hate to say it) click on the sig!

Tornado · 11-13-2002, 10:47 PM

Hey there,

If you go with Netbilling you can still offer your members excellent customer service for way less than the 3rd party billing companies charge. They take care of it for ya. Plus with the new Visa regulations there is really no reason not to get your own merchant acoount. Just my

lagwagon · 11-14-2002, 02:30 PM

thanks for the input guys

NETbilling · 11-17-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lagwagon
thanks for the input guys

FTVgirls / Lagwagon

Please contact me at the office tomorrow if possible. I will explain everything including how will will handle all of your customer service as well for you.

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber

p.s. Thanks for the plug Tornado!

mrthumbs · 11-18-2002, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

FTVgirls / Lagwagon

Please contact me at the office tomorrow if possible. I will explain everything including how will will handle all of your customer service as well for you.

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber

p.s. Thanks for the plug Tornado!

You're a little too pushy on the boards Mitch.

Im sure that if i'd write a processing related
question on a post-it note and stick it to my desk
your number would appear instantly..

EscortBiz · 11-18-2002, 12:03 AM

well if you want to go with your own merchant account then yes netbilling is great I know many who use them.

But if you want to go the third party route CCBill is the way to go, I tried so many billers (not ProBilling lol)

Yes they scrub but what good does it do not to scrub and then end up with a chargeback.

I also found that Im getting way more affiliates to signup under ccbill

Plus never any stories about:

NSF checks because they changed banks
Account closed checks
Wire was by mistake sent somewhere else
Accounting is at lunch
We are moving offices so checks are late
Its an error on your server not ours
Long hold times

They are just ontime and always quick to help those are facts.

Bobo · 11-18-2002, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FTVGirls
I currently run with ccbill; their service and reliability is good -- however after all their processing fees and such, more than 25% of the gross sales goes to ccbill... it really bites.

Now I have been contacted by comanies like http://www.netbilling.com/ and such which have far lower processing fees. Question is, I wish to keep quality customer service for members and such, and does these other sites really have lower quality services or parameters? I hear many are moving to globill for example.

Any comments or opinions?

Wow. Hey, you know, your site looks really nice. The only problem I'm having with it from here is that it doesn't load very quickly. Maybe it's just a temporary connectivity issue, I'm not sure. But if it loads slow that may be a cause for cancellations.

Bobo · 11-18-2002, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
well if you want to go with your own merchant account then yes netbilling is great I know many who use them.

But if you want to go the third party route CCBill is the way to go, I tried so many billers (not ProBilling lol)

Yes they scrub but what good does it do not to scrub and then end up with a chargeback.

I also found that Im getting way more affiliates to signup under ccbill

Plus never any stories about:

NSF checks because they changed banks
Account closed checks
Wire was by mistake sent somewhere else
Accounting is at lunch
We are moving offices so checks are late
Its an error on your server not ours
Long hold times

They are just ontime and always quick to help those are facts.

Are you allowed to customize the actually ccbill affiliate sign-up pages? They're ugly and barren. I also hate the fact that it doesn't send you your password after you join a ccbill affilate program.

But besides those small issues ccbill is a great processor.

11-13-2002, 10:06 PM	#1
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Internet billing services -- I currently run with ccbill; their service and reliability is good -- however after all their processing fees and such, more than 25% of the gross sales goes to ccbill... it really bites. Now I have been contacted by comanies like http://www.netbilling.com/ and such which have far lower processing fees. Question is, I wish to keep quality customer service for members and such, and does these other sites really have lower quality services or parameters? I hear many are moving to globill for example. Any comments or opinions?

11-13-2002, 10:30 PM	#4
Splicer Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Baja Posts: 198	Scrubbing motherfuckers! I think what he means is exactly what's happening to you. For some webmasters certain companies work better than others 'cause they have more slaes and rebills. This is due in part to the policies of each company (and the way they handle the actual billing and rebilling). Best thing to do is have at least two processors. And put Ccbill as alternate or get rid of it all together if you're getting all those denials. __________________ Are we rich yet?

11-14-2002, 02:30 PM	#8
lagwagon Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: az Posts: 8,464	thanks for the input guys __________________ FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

11-18-2002, 12:03 AM	#11
EscortBiz Fuck Checks, CASH only! Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 19,422	well if you want to go with your own merchant account then yes netbilling is great I know many who use them. But if you want to go the third party route CCBill is the way to go, I tried so many billers (not ProBilling lol) Yes they scrub but what good does it do not to scrub and then end up with a chargeback. I also found that Im getting way more affiliates to signup under ccbill Plus never any stories about: NSF checks because they changed banks Account closed checks Wire was by mistake sent somewhere else Accounting is at lunch We are moving offices so checks are late Its an error on your server not ours Long hold times They are just ontime and always quick to help those are facts. __________________ Spanking, Medical Fetish, Sleeping, Strap-on Anal Lesbians, Girls Fucking Guys, Handjob site REAL HOT, Shemales, Anal and Ass Licking sites 100% Real EXCLUSIVE with amazing retention, ccbill payouts, lots of content FREE FTP HOSTING Promote the largest and oldest member paid escort site, Converts 10 times better then any dating site, CCBill payouts ICQ# 158802076 Last edited by EscortBiz; 11-18-2002 at 12:04 AM..

11-13-2002, 10:11 PM	#2
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	From my experience ccbill has been horrible as far as sales & rebills. Ibill works great. ibill/ccbill/epoch all offer services that do not require you to have a merchant account (hence the 11-15% fee). Netbilling helps you get a merchant and process transactions through your merchant (that's why fees are lower), however you have to REALLY monitor your CB% because once you go over a threshold you can lose the merchant and get on the TMF (never be able to bill again). Then again, you have to watch your CB% with ibill/ccbill too .. so where's the benefit :-/

11-13-2002, 10:22 PM	#3
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Since I'm new to this business, when you say ccbill is horrible with sales/rebills, what do you mean? Somehow there are problems with sales & rebills? I do get a lot of people who try to sign on and get the 'transaction denied due to...' and so on.

11-13-2002, 10:35 PM	#5
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	So recommendations? Ibill? Globill? other? I chose ccbill because it was one of the largest companies, and it happens to have its corporate office only a few miles away from me. More input please ))

11-13-2002, 10:43 PM	#6
Fatbrain Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mars Posts: 218	I've been with Globill for 2 years...Customer Service is EXCELLENT and I have only had 2 chargebacks during my stay with them...They are prompt on support too! If your up to it (how I hate to say it) click on the sig!

11-13-2002, 10:47 PM	#7
Tornado Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 287	Hey there, If you go with Netbilling you can still offer your members excellent customer service for way less than the 3rd party billing companies charge. They take care of it for ya. Plus with the new Visa regulations there is really no reason not to get your own merchant acoount. Just my