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Old 11-11-2002, 06:07 PM   #1
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Pot is more FUCKED up than cigaretts!

"Smoking three pure cannabis joints is as bad for your lungs as smoking 20 normal cigarettes and marijuana is more dangerous now than it was in the 1960s, British researchers said on Monday. In what it described as a shocking new report, the British Lung Foundation (BLF) said tar from cannabis cigarettes contained 50% more carcinogens--the agents that produce cancer--than tobacco."

So the myth is disspelled... potheads beware!

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Old 11-11-2002, 06:14 PM   #2
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Oh no, that almost makes me want to quit smoking pot. They're basically throwing anything possible out there to get people to think pot is bad these days. You know what I mean if you've saw those commercials that say when you buy pot you're supporting terrorism.
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Of course it's more fucked than cigarettes.. Because it gets you more fucked up than cigarettes, which is why it costs more money.

Sad, but true.
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"When you smoke pot.. you're smoking pot with HITLER!!"

so toke up, let's get that motherfucker blazzed
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"When you smoke pot.. you're smoking pot with HITLER!!"

so toke up, let's get that motherfucker blazzed
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Of course it's more fucked than cigarettes.. Because it gets you more fucked up than cigarettes, which is why it costs more money.

Sad, but true.
That has to be the most moronic thing I have heard in a long time. You must truly have your head lodged firmly up your ass lol. I read and thought it was a joke until I read the Sad, but true. part. You scare me.
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How many people are actually saying that this research must be a lie, because it says something illegal is bad for you? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, smoking pot might actually be unhealthy, even though you like it?
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How many people are actually saying that this research must be a lie, because it says something illegal is bad for you? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, smoking pot might actually be unhealthy, even though you like it?
Seriously.

Thats the weakest argument ever.

Ever think some legal things are just as bad? Gambling, alcohol? And please keep in mind, its not illegal everywhere.

It fucking kills me to see such ignorance.
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How many people are actually saying that this research must be a lie, because it says something illegal is bad for you? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, smoking pot might actually be unhealthy, even though you like it?
The knee-jerk reactions would tend to indicate that. They can't see what we can, apparently: They are ready to doubt ANY evidence put before them, because they basically want to smoke pot, and that's that.
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Of course it's more fucked than cigarettes.. Because it gets you more fucked up than cigarettes, which is why it costs more money.

Sad, but true.
Sounds like you know exactly what you're talking about.
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The knee-jerk reactions would tend to indicate that. They can't see what we can, apparently: They are ready to doubt ANY evidence put before them, because they basically want to smoke pot, and that's that.
Oh boy.

You are a charachter.

Broke bastard believes in the DVD myth.

Your curse and envy shows.

I know why you are so bitter.

That mirror speaks a new hate every morning, does it not?

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The knee-jerk reactions would tend to indicate that. They can't see what we can, apparently: They are ready to doubt ANY evidence put before them, because they basically want to smoke pot, and that's that.
Excuse me ..... could it infact be people not understanding? Seems to me that you like to skip and reply out of context to posts that you have an answer for ...... once again are you AaronM's dad?

I understand that with everything (including breathing city air) there is a health risk. What I dont understand is why people wanna turn an issue of inhaling smoke into a pot / anti pot issue. Unseen world wanted an arguement / discussion in his previous thread and when presented with level headed discussion he just skips that part of the thread and quotes something off topic. He made an ignorant stereotype and now he wants to play the 'I was just warning people of its danger' because he was not capable of differentiating an herb and inhaling smoke into your lungs.

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Of course it's more fucked than cigarettes.. Because it gets you more fucked up than cigarettes, which is why it costs more money.

Sad, but true.
hahahahahaha

This is about as far as the truth as possible.

Marajuana is a WEED. Perhaps you've heard the slang for marajuana, "weed." This means that it will grow practically anywhere. So, why is it so expensive? Because it is ILLEGAL. Nothing to do with "because it gets you more fucked up" - if it was legal it would be nearly free because anyone could grow it anywhere - but what is more likely is that major corps would genetically engineer their own to super potent plants and then it would probably be comprable to cigs.
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How many people are actually saying that this research must be a lie, because it says something illegal is bad for you? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, smoking pot might actually be unhealthy, even though you like it?
i've never met ONE pothead who thought it was healthy. The question is only in how UNHEALTHY it is... and seriously.. a joint containing the "badness" of 7 ciggies is nothing. For a starters most use bongs which filter the smoke.. and a joint is a few cones.. for your average person who might smoke on the weekend a few cones is enough (or too much depending on how strong it is) and filtered it's probably 5 ciggies worth.. so whats that - 5 ciggies a week? walking across a busy road in the city has the carbon monoxide of HALF A PACKET of ciggies..

people object not so much because they think it's healthy, they object because in the relative sense it's not worth worrying about but must constantly be reminded about it with spin on the information.
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Excuse me ..... could it infact be people not understanding? Seems to me that you like to skip and reply out of context to posts that you have an answer for ...... once again are you AaronM's dad?

I understand that with everything (including breathing city air) there is a health risk. What I dont understand is why people wanna turn an issue of inhaling smoke into a pot / anti pot issue. Unseen world wanted an arguement / discussion in his previous thread and when presented with level headed discussion he just skips that part of the thread and quotes something off topic. He made an ignorant stereotype and now he wants to play the 'I was just warning people of its danger' because he was not capable of differentiating an herb and inhaling smoke into your lungs.

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Dude this is always the case.

He is always using herbs as a way to bring up an argument to sell content. Fuck I thought most knew this.

He cant hold his own in a conversation about it.

Just some old bitter fuck.
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Oh boy.

You are a charachter.

Broke bastard believes in the DVD myth.

Your curse and envy shows.

I know why you are so bitter.

That mirror speaks a new hate every morning, does it not?

Like a book.
"Broke bastard believes in the DVD myth.

Your curse and envy shows."

You know, I think you need to get some of that dope out of your system before you argue anymore. Here you are jumping from digital video disks to your feeble attempt at psychoanalysis which seems based on the premise that anyone who's logical and doesn't believe that smoking pot is good must be bitter. You have left out a few pemisses there, which isn't really surprising.

Lay down and take some deep breaths of smoke-free air for a while.
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"Broke bastard believes in the DVD myth.

Your curse and envy shows."

You know, I think you need to get some of that dope out of your system before you argue anymore. Here you are jumping from digital video disks to your feeble attempt at psychoanalysis which seems based on the premise that anyone who's logical and doesn't believe that smoking pot is good must be bitter. You have left out a few pemisses there, which isn't really surprising.

Lay down and take some deep breaths of smoke-free air for a while.
Unseen lets take a logical look at this as you say : your new topic that started all this :

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87571&perpage=50&pagenu mber=1

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Aside from turning you into a zombie who is still living at home with Mom at age 30 and thinks reruns of CHIPS are entertaining, it can have serious health consequences, it seems.
Fact right?

Obviously not intended to help anyone, intended to insite an arguement/discussion.

Post you made on the same thread page 3 bout halfway down :
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This whole thing started when I merely pointed out an article stating some health risks related to cannabis. The amount of defensiveness about it is revelatory. "Methinks thou protest too much" as Shakespeare would say.
Anther logical fact.

Tell me how everyone else is being illogical please.

I tried to keep everything in context by quoting the entire post so please do me the same courtesy.

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Dude this is always the case.

He is always using herbs as a way to bring up an argument to sell content. Fuck I thought most knew this.

He cant hold his own in a conversation about it.

Just some old bitter fuck.
Seems to be a pretty common trend here. Make claims, when asked to back them up change the subject and place 'blame' on the other opinion. Or if all else fails , switch to the fool proof - "Well look at the name of this board man". I still dont quite understand how the fact that a name of a board can change the fact that some people are just morons that would never be able to carry on a intelligent discussion anyhow.

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Dude this is always the case.

He is always using herbs as a way to bring up an argument to sell content. Fuck I thought most knew this.

He cant hold his own in a conversation about it.

Just some old bitter fuck.
I would never buy content from him just because of his posts on here.
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Seems to be a pretty common trend here. Make claims, when asked to back them up change the subject and place 'blame' on the other opinion. Or if all else fails , switch to the fool proof - "Well look at the name of this board man". I still dont quite understand how the fact that a name of a board can change the fact that some people are just morons that would never be able to carry on a intelligent discussion anyhow.

Rory
When asked to back up my points, I introduced some info from that old handmaiden of the Drug Czar Public Broadcasting System, which Fletch then kind off offhandedly dismissed out of hand. The tack of the pro-puffers here is to dismiss ANY evidence, no matter how reputable out-of-hand...which is pretty much what one might expect.
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I would never buy content from him just because of his posts on here.

Oh, thank you, for that. I just changed my mind on the subject.
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My evidence is experience.

I don't know about you, but I don't believe everything I read.
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Tell me how everyone else is being illogical please.

I tried to keep everything in context by quoting the entire post so please do me the same courtesy.
They're being illogical, as I explained, by asking for some proof. When I brought up some proof from PBS, they dismissed it out of hand (oh, yeah, Fletch is right and the researchers of PBS are stupid idiots...please). I will quote the parts I'm responding to. Do me the courtesy of not telling me what to do.
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They're being illogical, as I explained, by asking for some proof. When I brought up some proof from PBS, they dismissed it out of hand (oh, yeah, Fletch is right and the researchers of PBS are stupid idiots...please). I will quote the parts I'm responding to. Do me the courtesy of not telling me what to do.
All you do is quote.

This isnt a discussion.

Its a decaying content provider quoting PBS of all sources about the issues that wont even concern you in 10 years.
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Oh, thank you, for that. I just changed my mind on the subject.
That's right, you probably don't need my business.
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SO you are saying pot is bad for you... No shit! Lets see, it gets you fucked up so yeah, that makes sense. Do I trust the numbers that it is worse than cigarettes? No. Any study can be flawed and I don't know who did the study, what their backing is, or what they were trying to prove.

Never trust any one study...
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you've never seen those old american propagahnda about pot and stuff..

the other one i remeber said something like 'smoking pot makes you a communist'
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"Reefer Madness" was put out by the tobacco co and its obvious of who it infected.

Unseen is the generation it was supposed to brainwash.

It obviously worked.

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I must be really stoned or something.... because I thought you guys debated this topic twice this morning on two other threads.
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I was too late to get in on the first one...
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Free yourself, spin away

Ah, climb a mountain to reach yourself
Climb a mountain to find zen, zen, zen, ay

Free your mind and drift away, yeah
Free your tribe and float away, float away, ooh

Climb a mountain to reach yourself
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Hey, hey, hey, hey
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Something else jolly old Saint Nick cant understand.

Rock and roll. drugs and pussy.

the things that give this old pecker content and he cant understand them.

too funny.

what a fucking joke.
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Old 11-11-2002, 10:39 PM   #39
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They're being illogical, as I explained, by asking for some proof. When I brought up some proof from PBS, they dismissed it out of hand (oh, yeah, Fletch is right and the researchers of PBS are stupid idiots...please). I will quote the parts I'm responding to. Do me the courtesy of not telling me what to do.
How is it that people on this board are so good at just plainly talking around a question.

Logical : Reasoning or capable of reasoning in a clear and consistent manner. How is anything about changing your reasoning behind your posting consistent?

Smoke being inhaled = unhealthy.

Pot = a plant.

For you to make the bridge that everyone who smokes joints is going to die and they are lazy no good mother fuckers that live at home is totally ignorant. Using that same logic I could make the assumption that you are a no good old perveted sick fuck that has found a proffession lets him play out sexual fantasies of seeing young women naked. I mean every girl I have talked to has said that you are a slimeball that shoots with a fuckin boner. Are you some type of pervert or what? I mean iam basing my opinion on you of what I have heard and read. So go find some drugged up portland girl to take advantage of , and admit to yourself you are nothiing more than a sick old pervert that is in and out of jail on sexual offenses, difference is you have a camera. Dont judge you sick old fuck.

You wanted a discussion right old man?

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Old 11-11-2002, 10:50 PM   #40
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Come on you sick old fuck , you wanted attention right? After all thats why you started the debate right? Tell us about you , do you really shoot your content with a big fat woody with just you and the girl? Do all your models love shooting for you and always come back for more drug money?
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How many people are actually saying that this research must be a lie, because it says something illegal is bad for you? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, smoking pot might actually be unhealthy, even though you like it?
You know since Iam at it and it seems to be OK in this thread to stereotype.... I really have a beef to pick with you goth faggots. Was a whole "6th grade when my older brother liked Bauhaus (the prick) and of course I wanted to be a goth dork too" thing. You guys are always fucking depressed and contemplating suicide , just fuckin kill yourself you miserable fucks. You guys spend so much time fanatsizing about being vampires and shit that you guys have even started making games about it, wasnt Dungeons and Dragons enough? I mean fuck we were all dorks sometime in our life , cant you guys just leave the D&D phase behind? God there is so much that I hate about you guys just cant fit it all in one post.

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Old 11-11-2002, 11:23 PM   #42
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How 'bout some herb laced with cocaine, eh? On sale everywhere here...
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Old 11-11-2002, 11:25 PM   #43
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I would never buy content from him just because of his posts on here.
Never buy the most important thing on your site for any other reason than

IT MAKES YOU MONEY

The surfer gets his CC out for your content and keeps shelling out because of it.

Unseen, me, Aaron, etc. may be idiots but that makes no difference to the surfer. Buy because it makes you money.

As for the thread, been smoking it since 1966. They (the "establishment") have always been coming up with thin excuses that it is harmful. Like they really care, cigarettes and alcohol kill 100,000s every year and what do they do? Ban advertising? Only partly. Make them put a large health warning on the ads/packets? Not while they are giving money to politicians.

Don't play their game.
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O come on , I know there is at least a few goth fags out there that wanna have a pissing match, it will be fun.

Also , where is the old man? I thought he wanted attention.

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I'll agree to the post when they medicate a pack of Marlboro instead of a few joints. Anyway, I think bongs are better for your lungs, simply because your not inhaling paper smoke or leaf instead of just weed. Don't get me wrong... I am Blunt type of guy
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Did England just figure out pot is unhealthy??? Shit when I was grade 6 a police offer came to the school talking about drugs and he said 1 joint of pot does about as much damage as 7 cigerattes. Their was proof of that years ago.

Well surprise surprise, more then a decade later some shithead concludes that 3 joints = 1 pack of smokes.
HELLO? we already know this.

Remember that not everyone who smokes pot is smoking 3+ joints a day.
Most people I know smoke 1 a day at the most. Many only smoke it on the weekends.
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They (the "establishment") have always been coming up with thin excuses that it is harmful. Like they really care, cigarettes and alcohol kill 100,000s every year and what do they do? Ban advertising? Only partly. Make them put a large health warning on the ads/packets? Not while they are giving money to politicians.

Don't play their game.
This has me confused as well. Why the fuck doesn't the government allow the sale on pot and TAX it? They don't care cigerattes kill people cause it makes money. So why not money with pot as well.
Not only do you make money on the sales, you save millions (if not billions) on the stupid "war on drugs" and jailing people for selling pot.
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Look, who do you think has done more research on the subject than the good ole' tobacco companies?

Why would they sell cigaretts if they killed the people that smoked them?

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Look, who do you think has done more research on the subject than the good ole' tobacco companies?

Why would they sell cigaretts if they killed the people that smoked them?

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