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Grapesoda · 12-22-2008, 07:55 AM

almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....

Si · 12-22-2008, 08:09 AM

I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!

Grapesoda · 12-22-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!

try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land

MaDalton · 12-22-2008, 08:14 AM

yeah, more, but we shoot with 2 people. and probably less solo than you

Kiwigirl · 12-22-2008, 08:18 AM

Wow I'm in the wrong business...I need to start a modeling agency by the sounds of it. hehehe

Grapesoda · 12-22-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, more, but we shoot with 2 people. and probably less solo than you

actually I used to shoot about 200+ scenes a year with modeling cost of about $120K. this year less than 100 I think. the solo shoots I do are very small most times and I do them at home.

Si · 12-22-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land

AaronM · 12-22-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!

One of the worst business models this industry has ever had.

ParlourCash Karl · 12-22-2008, 10:01 AM

But did you make money.....I hope so.

Si · 12-22-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

One of the worst business models this industry has ever had.

It ain't the best but it's good for someone starting up
If you've got the money to pay the models, obviously thats the best way to go.

Grapesoda · 12-22-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Danielles Parlour

But did you make money.....I hope so.

my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.

Barefootsies · 12-22-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.

Barefootsies · 12-22-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....

...and much less.

Kudles · 12-22-2008, 03:41 PM

Wow not bad

Porno Dan · 05-09-2009, 05:08 PM

I was looking for another post and found yours.

Prices have fallen out here big time, and we are getting better and better quality models.

Through May 1 of this year we have spent over $150,000 on models.

Vitasoy · 05-09-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.

Well that's certainly not good.

STAROTICA · 05-09-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwigirl

Wow I'm in the wrong business...I need to start a modeling agency by the sounds of it. hehehe

silly fucker....pimpin aint easy!

http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html

http://www.lukeisback.com/essays/essays/enter.htm

its funny to see how many are still "around"!

Grapesoda · 05-09-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by STAROTICA

silly fucker....pimpin aint easy!

http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html

http://www.lukeisback.com/essays/essays/enter.htm

its funny to see how many are still "around"!

99% of this is bullshit
http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html

NaughtyRob · 05-09-2009, 09:45 PM

Spent zero on agencies and untold thousands on models.

amacontent · 05-09-2009, 10:51 PM

I sent out W9s for $365,000 and 28k in agency fees

Barefootsies · 05-09-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Spent zero on agencies and untold thousands on models.

Same here.

Mr Pheer · 05-10-2009, 12:49 AM

I've spent $0 on models as well. I just jack all my pictures from myspace and facebook.

Iron Fist · 05-10-2009, 12:49 AM

Serious business in here

Manowar · 05-10-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

I sent out W9s for $365,000 and 28k in agency fees

damn, very nice

STAROTICA · 05-10-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

99% of this is bullshit
http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html

hey dont bitch at me....bitch at them.....

NemesisEnforcer · 05-10-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....

You're spending too much. I've shot some of the same girls that you've shot (I've seen your work) and my cost for models is down by 50%. My location cost is down by over 60%. We're in a recession and prices have dropped out here in LA.

DWB · 05-10-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....

I think I've spent that much on Thai hookers this year. Or maybe they were ladyboys. Difficult to tell in the dark.

hypedough · 05-10-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land

No shit.. I'll give you 40% of something that I might make one day... They'll have a shit-fit.

AAB · 05-10-2009, 09:55 PM

I suppose once you have nothing of value to show off with, you start bragging about how much you spent on models

voa · 05-11-2009, 12:41 AM

That is some serious money to invest

Sukiho · 05-11-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

actually I used to shoot about 200+ scenes a year with modeling cost of about $120K. this year less than 100 I think. the solo shoots I do are very small most times and I do them at home.

so, around $500 a scene is about the standard cost of a model?

Paul Markham · 05-11-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Danielles Parlour

But did you make money.....I hope so.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.

It has little to nothing to do with how much you spent on models. It's about what you're left with at the end of the year.

Back in the 80s and 90s I used to spend $20,000 a year ($400 a shot, 50 shoots a year) most of those days were worth $10,000 a day. Shooting for magazines and videos. We still own the content and still sell it, see signature.

And yes it was easier in those days.

How much of the work you shot do you still own?

Thank God we never went that route, this last year would of closed us down.

Grapesoda · 05-11-2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I think I've spent that much on Thai hookers this year. Or maybe they were ladyboys. Difficult to tell in the dark.

if ya find a stick in the bed..... well you know....

Easton · 05-11-2009, 08:30 AM

just did a quicken report and my 2008 figure was about $250k on male and female talent costs - then again, all hardcore stuff and up to 4 scenes a day, so it adds up really fast

Porno Dan · 05-11-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

You're spending too much. I've shot some of the same girls that you've shot (I've seen your work) and my cost for models is down by 50%. My location cost is down by over 60%. We're in a recession and prices have dropped out here in LA.

The costs are down but not as much as your are saying. If your models costs are down 50 % then either you were paying way too much before or something is wrong.

Anyone who knows Jim and I will attest the we negiotate as hard, or harder than any prodcuers there are. We make package deals, bundle scenes, and are as cost effective as anyone in this business.

There are tons of models who tell us that their agents won't let them discount their rates. They say they need work and are happy to scenes for less. I know that one of the top agencies bookings are down over 50 % in Los Angeles from two years ago.

A few of the biggger agents have realized that times and have changed and have lowered their rates across the board.

I predict that as we move into the Summer slow down season that you will see a lot of desperate talent shooting scenes on their own for rates lower than we have seen in years, prehaps even to the levels you are talking about.

Rock It · 05-11-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It has little to nothing to do with how much you spent on models. It's about what you're left with at the end of the year.

Back in the 80s and 90s I used to spend $20,000 a year ($400 a shot, 50 shoots a year) most of those days were worth $10,000 a day. Shooting for magazines and videos. We still own the content and still sell it, see signature.

And yes it was easier in those days.

How much of the work you shot do you still own?

Thank God we never went that route, this last year would of closed us down.

Yeah that is defiantely the way to go...what are your shoot days worth today?

JP-pornshooter · 05-11-2009, 12:20 PM

hollywood people would look at this and giggle...

NemesisEnforcer · 05-11-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

The costs are down but not as much as your are saying. If your models costs are down 50 % then either you were paying way too much before or something is wrong.

Anyone who knows Jim and I will attest the we negiotate as hard, or harder than any prodcuers there are. We make package deals, bundle scenes, and are as cost effective as anyone in this business.

There are tons of models who tell us that their agents won't let them discount their rates. They say they need work and are happy to scenes for less. I know that one of the top agencies bookings are down over 50 % in Los Angeles from two years ago.

A few of the biggger agents have realized that times and have changed and have lowered their rates across the board.

Next time we meet, we should compare notes. Without posting actual rates it?s difficult to have this discussion.

I don?t negotiate and let them know what the job pays. I also tell the agent/agency what they?re getting as a placement fee. I?ve never had a problem with this. If you?re giving an agent a lot of work, you should be paying discounted rates across the board.

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

I predict that as we move into the Summer slow down season that you will see a lot of desperate talent shooting scenes on their own for rates lower than we have seen in years, prehaps even to the levels you are talking about.

Given the current economic climate in the industry, I think it will go beyond slow summers. There are so called agencies that have gone out of business or are planning to close unless they can find other revenue streams.

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