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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    spent over $93K on modeling cost this year and

    almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....
  • Si
    Such Fun!
    • Feb 2008
    • 13900

    #2
    I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!

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    • Grapesoda
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Originally posted by mobilefun1987
      I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!
      try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land

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      • MaDalton
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        • Feb 2004
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        #4
        yeah, more, but we shoot with 2 people. and probably less solo than you
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        • Kiwigirl
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          • Mar 2005
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          #5
          Wow I'm in the wrong business...I need to start a modeling agency by the sounds of it. hehehe

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          • Grapesoda
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            • Jul 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by MaDalton
            yeah, more, but we shoot with 2 people. and probably less solo than you
            actually I used to shoot about 200+ scenes a year with modeling cost of about $120K. this year less than 100 I think. the solo shoots I do are very small most times and I do them at home.

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            • Si
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              • Feb 2008
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              #7
              Originally posted by bm bradley
              try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land

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              • AaronM
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                • Oct 2001
                • 46923

                #8
                Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                I spend $0 on modeling costs. I use a profit share system. 40% to all funds generated from there content. If they don't sell no money lost! if they sell well more money for the girls!

                One of the worst business models this industry has ever had.

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                • ParlourCash Karl
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                  • May 2006
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                  #9
                  But did you make money.....I hope so.
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                  • Si
                    Such Fun!
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 13900

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AaronM
                    One of the worst business models this industry has ever had.
                    It ain't the best but it's good for someone starting up
                    If you've got the money to pay the models, obviously thats the best way to go.

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                    • Grapesoda
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Danielles Parlour
                      But did you make money.....I hope so.
                      my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.

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                      • Barefootsies
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                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                        my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.
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                        • Barefootsies
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                          • Feb 2005
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bm bradley
                          almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....
                          ...and much less.
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                          • Kudles
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #14
                            Wow not bad
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                            • Porno Dan
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                              • May 2003
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                              #15
                              I was looking for another post and found yours.

                              Prices have fallen out here big time, and we are getting better and better quality models.

                              Through May 1 of this year we have spent over $150,000 on models.
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                              • Vitasoy
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                                • Oct 2003
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by bm bradley
                                my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.
                                Well that's certainly not good.


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                                • STAROTICA
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 1079

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kiwigirl
                                  Wow I'm in the wrong business...I need to start a modeling agency by the sounds of it. hehehe
                                  silly fucker....pimpin aint easy!


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                                  its funny to see how many are still "around"!

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                                  • Grapesoda
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                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 46238

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by STAROTICA
                                    silly fucker....pimpin aint easy!


                                    http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html


                                    http://www.lukeisback.com/essays/essays/enter.htm


                                    its funny to see how many are still "around"!

                                    99% of this is bullshit
                                    http://www.hardcoregossip.com/agencyguide.html

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                                    • NaughtyRob
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                                      • Nov 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Spent zero on agencies and untold thousands on models.
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                                      • amacontent
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                                        • Feb 2003
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                                        #20
                                        I sent out W9s for $365,000 and 28k in agency fees
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                                        • Barefootsies
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                                          • Feb 2005
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by GetNaughty
                                          Spent zero on agencies and untold thousands on models.
                                          Same here.
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                                          • Mr Pheer
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                                            • Dec 2002
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                                            #22
                                            I've spent $0 on models as well. I just jack all my pictures from myspace and facebook.

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                                            • Iron Fist
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                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 23400

                                              #23
                                              Serious business in here
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                                              • Manowar
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                                                • Dec 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by amacontent
                                                I sent out W9s for $365,000 and 28k in agency fees
                                                damn, very nice

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                                                • STAROTICA
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                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                  hey dont bitch at me....bitch at them.....

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                                                  • NemesisEnforcer
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                                                    • Aug 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                    almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....
                                                    You're spending too much. I've shot some of the same girls that you've shot (I've seen your work) and my cost for models is down by 50%. My location cost is down by over 60%. We're in a recession and prices have dropped out here in LA.
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                                                    • DWB
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                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                      almost $7K on agencies.... I'm sure there are guys spending much more than me ....
                                                      I think I've spent that much on Thai hookers this year. Or maybe they were ladyboys. Difficult to tell in the dark.

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                                                      • hypedough
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                                                        • Sep 2007
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                        try and sell that one to the agents out here in LALA land
                                                        No shit.. I'll give you 40% of something that I might make one day... They'll have a shit-fit.

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                                                        • AAB
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                                                          • Apr 2009
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                                                          #29
                                                          I suppose once you have nothing of value to show off with, you start bragging about how much you spent on models

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                                                          • voa
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                                                            • Nov 2006
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                                                            #30
                                                            That is some serious money to invest

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                                                            • Sukiho
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                                                              • Feb 2009
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                              actually I used to shoot about 200+ scenes a year with modeling cost of about $120K. this year less than 100 I think. the solo shoots I do are very small most times and I do them at home.
                                                              so, around $500 a scene is about the standard cost of a model?

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                                                              • Paul Markham
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                                                                • Jun 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Danielles Parlour
                                                                But did you make money.....I hope so.
                                                                Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                my net is off over 60% due to rising production cost. so no, I don't really make any money anymore.
                                                                It has little to nothing to do with how much you spent on models. It's about what you're left with at the end of the year.

                                                                Back in the 80s and 90s I used to spend $20,000 a year ($400 a shot, 50 shoots a year) most of those days were worth $10,000 a day. Shooting for magazines and videos. We still own the content and still sell it, see signature.

                                                                And yes it was easier in those days.

                                                                How much of the work you shot do you still own?

                                                                Thank God we never went that route, this last year would of closed us down.



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                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                  I think I've spent that much on Thai hookers this year. Or maybe they were ladyboys. Difficult to tell in the dark.
                                                                  if ya find a stick in the bed..... well you know....

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                                                                  • Easton
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    just did a quicken report and my 2008 figure was about $250k on male and female talent costs - then again, all hardcore stuff and up to 4 scenes a day, so it adds up really fast
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                                                                    • Porno Dan
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                                                                      • May 2003
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by NemesisEnforcer
                                                                      You're spending too much. I've shot some of the same girls that you've shot (I've seen your work) and my cost for models is down by 50%. My location cost is down by over 60%. We're in a recession and prices have dropped out here in LA.
                                                                      The costs are down but not as much as your are saying. If your models costs are down 50 % then either you were paying way too much before or something is wrong.

                                                                      Anyone who knows Jim and I will attest the we negiotate as hard, or harder than any prodcuers there are. We make package deals, bundle scenes, and are as cost effective as anyone in this business.

                                                                      There are tons of models who tell us that their agents won't let them discount their rates. They say they need work and are happy to scenes for less. I know that one of the top agencies bookings are down over 50 % in Los Angeles from two years ago.

                                                                      A few of the biggger agents have realized that times and have changed and have lowered their rates across the board.

                                                                      I predict that as we move into the Summer slow down season that you will see a lot of desperate talent shooting scenes on their own for rates lower than we have seen in years, prehaps even to the levels you are talking about.
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                                                                      • Rock It
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                        It has little to nothing to do with how much you spent on models. It's about what you're left with at the end of the year.

                                                                        Back in the 80s and 90s I used to spend $20,000 a year ($400 a shot, 50 shoots a year) most of those days were worth $10,000 a day. Shooting for magazines and videos. We still own the content and still sell it, see signature.

                                                                        And yes it was easier in those days.

                                                                        How much of the work you shot do you still own?

                                                                        Thank God we never went that route, this last year would of closed us down.
                                                                        Yeah that is defiantely the way to go...what are your shoot days worth today?

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                                                                        • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • NemesisEnforcer
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                                                                            • Aug 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Porno Dan
                                                                            The costs are down but not as much as your are saying. If your models costs are down 50 % then either you were paying way too much before or something is wrong.

                                                                            Anyone who knows Jim and I will attest the we negiotate as hard, or harder than any prodcuers there are. We make package deals, bundle scenes, and are as cost effective as anyone in this business.

                                                                            There are tons of models who tell us that their agents won't let them discount their rates. They say they need work and are happy to scenes for less. I know that one of the top agencies bookings are down over 50 % in Los Angeles from two years ago.

                                                                            A few of the biggger agents have realized that times and have changed and have lowered their rates across the board.
                                                                            Next time we meet, we should compare notes. Without posting actual rates it?s difficult to have this discussion.

                                                                            I don?t negotiate and let them know what the job pays. I also tell the agent/agency what they?re getting as a placement fee. I?ve never had a problem with this. If you?re giving an agent a lot of work, you should be paying discounted rates across the board.


                                                                            Originally posted by Porno Dan
                                                                            I predict that as we move into the Summer slow down season that you will see a lot of desperate talent shooting scenes on their own for rates lower than we have seen in years, prehaps even to the levels you are talking about.
                                                                            Given the current economic climate in the industry, I think it will go beyond slow summers. There are so called agencies that have gone out of business or are planning to close unless they can find other revenue streams.
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