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| Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:08 PM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com 
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				 |  does PPS have to be on a TRIAL to be considered PPS? Hey  I want to know what you guys think about PPS, does the sponsor have to be paying you on a trial for you to promote them via pps, or can it be on a full join? So let's say $24.95 full join and the sponsor is paying you $35 pps Let's discuss | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:21 PM | #2 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal 
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				 | No, it does not have to be on a trial. | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:23 PM | #3 | 
| Pounding Googlebot Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada 
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				 | It should be, otherwise its really called an active join. WG 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:27 PM | #4 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal 
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				 | What difference would it make if it was a trial or active join? If it is PPS it is PPS whether the surfer opted for the trial or the full join. I can not recall any trial that did not offer the full join as well. It would not change my payout. | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:27 PM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com 
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				 | Would you still promote that option though? | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:28 PM | #6 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis 
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				 | I wouldn't take PPS for full month joins unless the PPS = 2.5 times the full month price | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:29 PM | #7 | |
| Let's do some business! Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX 
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 When you tell a webmaster that you pay PPS the first thought is as trial... if it is not a trial, it should really be specified otherwise. It is easier to sell a $1.95 trial than a $24.95 full... 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:34 PM | #8 | 
| So Fucking Banned Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal 
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				 | I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer. | 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:40 PM | #9 | |
| Let's do some business! Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX 
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 Yes, I have seen many that only offer a high surfer join price. 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:47 PM | #10 | |
| Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda 
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 Check out Lightspeed sites, for instance. 
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|  12-08-2008, 12:57 PM | #11 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany 
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				 | PPS = Pay Per Signup So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial. There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup. However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare. 
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|  12-08-2008, 01:07 PM | #12 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com 
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|  12-08-2008, 02:27 PM | #13 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com 
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				 | Bump for more opinions | 
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|  12-08-2008, 03:38 PM | #14 | |
| Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy 
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|  12-08-2008, 03:44 PM | #15 | 
| making it rain Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle 
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				 | Active join = trial membership that converts. To me PPS means a one-time comission for acquring the customer, which is not necessarily a percentage. As far as what their trial price point is at or whether the site has a trial at all, is up to the affiliate to research and decide if they want to promote this program or not. | 
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|  12-08-2008, 03:45 PM | #16 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2002 
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				 | PPS has always implied that it's PPS paid out on trial memberships. PPS on a full month memebership is PPS only in the literal sense. 
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|  12-08-2008, 03:48 PM | #17 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 
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 Although I have seen that question a number of times...... The rule I have always lived by is simple sponsors with NO trial i will ONLY promote using Revshare sponsors that HAVE a trial i will ONLY promote using PPS (because once a surfer signs up to a sponsor its in THEIR hands to convert that surfer and I can't afford to WASTE a sign up for 50% of $3.95)  | |
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