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  • Ditosta
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 2107
    #1

    does PPS have to be on a TRIAL to be considered PPS?

    Hey

    I want to know what you guys think about PPS, does the sponsor have to be paying you on a trial for you to promote them via pps, or can it be on a full join? So let's say $24.95 full join and the sponsor is paying you $35 pps


    Let's discuss
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089
      #2
      No, it does not have to be on a trial.

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        • WiredGuy
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          • Aug 2002
          • 34512
          #3
          It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089
              #4
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
              WG
              What difference would it make if it was a trial or active join? If it is PPS it is PPS whether the surfer opted for the trial or the full join. I can not recall any trial that did not offer the full join as well. It would not change my payout.

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                • Ditosta
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2006
                  • 2107
                  #5
                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                  It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
                  WG
                  Would you still promote that option though?
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                    • biskoppen
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5809
                      #6
                      I wouldn't take PPS for full month joins unless the PPS = 2.5 times the full month price
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                        • Sly
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                          • Sep 2004
                          • 31377
                          #7
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          What difference would it make if it was a trial or active join? If it is PPS it is PPS whether the surfer opted for the trial or the full join. I can not recall any trial that did not offer the full join as well. It would not change my payout.
                          The difference is what webmasters perceive the difference to be...

                          When you tell a webmaster that you pay PPS the first thought is as trial... if it is not a trial, it should really be specified otherwise. It is easier to sell a $1.95 trial than a $24.95 full...
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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              The difference is what webmasters perceive the difference to be...

                              When you tell a webmaster that you pay PPS the first thought is as trial... if it is not a trial, it should really be specified otherwise. It is easier to sell a $1.95 trial than a $24.95 full...
                              I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.

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                                • Sly
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                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 31377
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.


                                  Yes, I have seen many that only offer a high surfer join price.
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                                    • WarChild
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                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 17263
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                      I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.
                                      Yes, there's many around.

                                      Check out Lightspeed sites, for instance.
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                                        • PlugRush Sascha
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 2772
                                          #11
                                          PPS = Pay Per Signup

                                          So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

                                          There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

                                          However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
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                                            • Ditosta
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 2107
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by ktj4l
                                              PPS = Pay Per Signup

                                              So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

                                              There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

                                              However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
                                              You are right, what I should have asked was would webmasters promote PPS if it's not on a trial!
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                                                • Ditosta
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                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 2107
                                                  #13
                                                  Bump for more opinions
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                                                    • NaughtyRob
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                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 29602
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by ktj4l
                                                      PPS = Pay Per Signup

                                                      So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

                                                      There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

                                                      However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
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                                                        • fuzebox
                                                          making it rain
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 22353
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                          It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
                                                          WG
                                                          Active join = trial membership that converts.

                                                          To me PPS means a one-time comission for acquring the customer, which is not necessarily a percentage. As far as what their trial price point is at or whether the site has a trial at all, is up to the affiliate to research and decide if they want to promote this program or not.

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                                                            • Mutt
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                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 34431
                                                              #16
                                                              PPS has always implied that it's PPS paid out on trial memberships.

                                                              PPS on a full month memebership is PPS only in the literal sense.
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                                                                • AngusAl
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 319
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Ditosta
                                                                  You are right, what I should have asked was would webmasters promote PPS if it's not on a trial!
                                                                  WHY would you promote a site that has NO trial and pays PPS?
                                                                  Although I have seen that question a number of times......

                                                                  The rule I have always lived by is simple
                                                                  sponsors with NO trial i will ONLY promote using Revshare
                                                                  sponsors that HAVE a trial i will ONLY promote using PPS (because once a surfer signs up to a sponsor its in THEIR hands to convert that surfer and I can't afford to WASTE a sign up for 50% of $3.95)
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