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PerfectionGirls · 11-08-2002, 07:31 PM

Anyone have info on this? Just got a letter from ccbill saying that as of Nov. 15th they will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites. While I agree that the child porn and other garbage needs to be controled and or eliminated, there is a huge market for legitimate teen model websites. I happen to run a couple that are totally non-nude and are tasteful teen sites.
I also understand that these processors are getting a ton of heat from Visa i.e. the $750.00 we all had to pay and what not.
What really pisses me off is that I got this letter from ccbill at 9pm est on Friday and I got a whole 6 days to shut down my site and find another processor. It is my understanding that they have known these changes were coming for over a month without one word to their webmasters. To make it worse.. they collected the $750.00 and sold me a new, dedicated server in the last few days $2400.00 without one word of these changes that will effect 30% of my sales.
With the new Visa restrictions I can not just go find another processor without having Visa's stamp of approval and since my paperwork is still being process through ccbill I am totally fucked. I might not be able to be up and running again for over thirty days.. Why the hell did they not give us warning? I mean I do 200K a year in sales at ccbill and no warning? Bull Shit. I guess I am just fucked.

twistyneck · 11-08-2002, 07:34 PM

Yeah, you're fucked all right. Fucked in the head. I hope all you bastards get shut down.

Fletch XXX · 11-08-2002, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Just got a letter from ccbill saying that as of Nov. 15th they will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites.

I know, ain't it a bitch.

Morgan · 11-08-2002, 07:35 PM

I cannot believe this dude! LOL. I hope your sites die!

mrthumbs · 11-08-2002, 07:35 PM

Give me an example of a teen site ibill wont process?

The site in your sig seems ok..

ColKurtz · 11-08-2002, 07:35 PM

Only took them 5 years.

Kris · 11-08-2002, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
Yeah, you're fucked all right. Fucked in the head. I hope all you bastards get shut down.

indeed

Hooper · 11-08-2002, 07:36 PM

Good for ccbill.

cherrylula · 11-08-2002, 07:36 PM

Good its about time. Let the little girls wait until they are 18 before you put them on the net. Exploiting children in the sex industry, you should be ashamed.

rdunn404 · 11-08-2002, 07:38 PM

I just bought 5,000 blank Sony DVDs to copy movies and sell them from my garage. Can you believe Sony's movie distribution department called me with a cease and desist? After I bought all of those DVDs? What is this world coming to?!

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:40 PM

DiBill - I'm moving my teen scat sites there also...

tree · 11-08-2002, 07:41 PM

PED

mrthumbs · 11-08-2002, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx
DiBill - I'm moving my teen scat sites there also...

Make an instant 'skip intro' button on your site first..

p|mpdog · 11-08-2002, 07:41 PM

I will give you 1200 for the server...
post the specs

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:41 PM

On a serious note... if CCBill will have a problem processing any paysites with the word teen on them... then I'll have to move also. shit. shit.

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

Make an instant 'skip intro' button on your site first..

there is...

PerfectionGirls · 11-08-2002, 07:43 PM

Ahh my bad.. This is the self-righteous, S.O.B room. Who?s the moderator? Jerry Falwell?

Gzzzz

mrthumbs · 11-08-2002, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx

there is...

It displays after the intro is loaded..

That way the 'skip into' button is missing the point...

ColKurtz · 11-08-2002, 07:44 PM

"will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites. "

I think this is the point some people arent seeing. Under eighteen. Not just any site that uses 'teen'

<IMX> · 11-08-2002, 07:45 PM

PerfectionGirls
Am I allowed to speak?

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6

frankfortuna · 11-08-2002, 07:45 PM

Come on Jeff, you should know better. You know plenty of girls over 18, there's no need to delve into anything less.

twistyneck · 11-08-2002, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Ahh my bad.. This is the self-righteous, S.O.B room. Who?s the moderator? Jerry Falwell?

Gzzzz

Yeah, sorry about that. There is just something about sites that exist so pedophiles the world over can masturbate to the images of 10 year old girls that pisses some people off.

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

It displays after the intro is loaded..

That way the 'skip into' button is missing the point...

good point

I'll tell 'em

tree · 11-08-2002, 07:46 PM

http://www.pedbill.com

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ColKurtz
"will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites. "

I think this is the point some people arent seeing. Under eighteen. Not just any site that uses 'teen'

doubt he meant that that way

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by <IMX>
PerfectionGirls
Am I allowed to speak?

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6

WOW!

OK.

PerfectionGirls · 11-08-2002, 07:48 PM

Holy Shit Frank! LOL You get around man. Well you certainly know my reputation for knowing those 18 year and over girls! LOL! These damn message boards will be the death of me. LOL

frankfortuna · 11-08-2002, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Holy Shit Frank! LOL You get around man. Well you certainly know my reputation for knowing those 18 year and over girls! LOL! These damn message boards will be the death of me. LOL

To be quite honest, I didn't know any of the sites you operate contained under 18 content. My advice would be to bring the original Brittney back, she would sell like hotcakes.

p|mpdog · 11-08-2002, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna

To be quite honest, I didn't know any of the sites you operate contained under 18 content. My advice would be to bring the original Brittney back, she would sell like hotcakes.

how sweet, all is lost, but love was found...

Lexxx · 11-08-2002, 07:56 PM

He's got some real cuties there though...

PerfectionGirls · 11-08-2002, 08:01 PM

Thanks Laxxx. We try man. Hey Frank.. send me an email and I will tell you why the old "Brittany's" site made the change.

Rictor · 11-08-2002, 08:07 PM

This is good news.

playa · 11-08-2002, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
[B, there is a huge market for legitimate teen model websites. I happen to run a couple that are totally non-nude and are tasteful teen sites. [/B]

LOL,, who are you fooling man

Shoplifter · 11-08-2002, 08:45 PM

Please tell me that MET will finally be moving to DiBill where it belongs..

WiredGuy · 11-08-2002, 08:50 PM

Your selling borderline child pornography. Don't expect too much sympathy to your situation. Sure, it may be fully legal but your touching a very fine line into CP. I doubt you can find a replacement CC processor in the USA, so best of luck. I'm glad ccBill is cracking down on these type of sites.

WG

Webmasturbator · 11-08-2002, 08:56 PM

His site was down when I checked it.

salsbury · 11-08-2002, 08:58 PM

while it's pretty fucked up that people are ok with publishing under-18 sites, i'd have to say CCBill fucked this guy, too. i didn't know CCBill sold dedicated servers (maybe through their hosting company?) but the $750 probably shouldn't have been collected (assuming it was) if they were going to shut off the processing a few days later.

WiredGuy · 11-08-2002, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury
while it's pretty fucked up that people are ok with publishing under-18 sites, i'd have to say CCBill fucked this guy, too. i didn't know CCBill sold dedicated servers (maybe through their hosting company?) but the $750 probably shouldn't have been collected (assuming it was) if they were going to shut off the processing a few days later.

While it may be wrong, the $750 is not pocketed by ccBill. It's passed right along to Visa. Not ccBill's fault in my opinion, if anybody, Visa.

WG

UncleJimmy · 11-08-2002, 09:13 PM

Good ridence to that 'on the line' shit, it's bad for this biz period...

Mutt · 11-08-2002, 09:17 PM

You are a PIECE of SHIT Mr. PerfectionGirls. You're from Michigan, that's the state with the Attorney General who is all over these
underage teen model sites pandering to sleazebags who want to jerk off to 13 year olds.

Nobody give CCBILL a pat on the back. They've processed for this shit and worse for years, lying through their teeth all the while. There are LIVES behind those young faces that have been
irrepairably damaged. CCBILL has always been part of the problem not part of the solution. They are now desperate to stay in business, that is the only reason they are now going to distance themselves from this shit.

Mutt · 11-08-2002, 09:19 PM

and what fucking idiot who runs underage teen sites is stupid enough to crawl out from under his rock and post to a webmaster board?

most of the losers are smart enough to at least keep to themselves and under the radar screen.

cherrylula · 11-08-2002, 09:23 PM

Um, hello?? Ccbill obviously has no choice but to do this, as visa will not approve processing for a sex site that features underage girls, clothed or not.

Yeah its about time, but as you can see they are gonna take every last cent they can from the sick pedos, since processing will continue til the 15th.

Bobo · 11-08-2002, 09:28 PM

Down with pedophile porn

Paul Markham · 11-08-2002, 09:56 PM

Best news I heard this week.

Bye Bye

Brad Mitchell · 11-09-2002, 12:24 AM

I'm excited that your website will be without billing... that you'll lose all of your recurring revenue. It's about fucking time. Legality isn't the question here. You sell memberships to pedofiles. Your website serves only one purpose, getting off real pedofiles and people with those fantasies.

So, dress it up any way you like - you're a fucking scumbag. Your websites serve no legitimate purpose and an argument can't be made that they have any redeeming artistic value - most especially because they are behind a payment system. Why? People in the same age group don't have credit cards so they can't subscribe therefore you can't claim they have a proponderance of fans that are 'peers'. The context you put the girls in is entirely sexual and the audience for your site is entirely adult. The conclusion? Well, obvious - you're catering to pedofiles. I am sure you have no problem sleeping at night over what you do. However, one thing is for sure - life is circular and in one form or another you'll pay someday for all the sickening abuse you've promoted.

My thoughts on CCBill? Well, I love the people over there but they've acted like assholes for years about these kinds of sites. Their business is privately held and they have the right to make decisions about what clients they accept and what they don't. So yes, this cancellation is long overdue but our kudos don't go to CCBill, they go to VISA. And, in as much as I hate VISA these days, they do get a point for this in my book for finally effectuating some change.

Brad

rdunn404 · 11-09-2002, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
I'm excited that your website will be without billing... that you'll lose all of your recurring revenue. It's about fucking time. Legality isn't the question here. You sell memberships to pedofiles. Your website serves only one purpose, getting off real pedofiles and people with those fantasies.

So, dress it up any way you like - you're a fucking scumbag. Your websites serve no legitimate purpose and an argument can't be made that they have any redeeming artistic value - most especially because they are behind a payment system. Why? People in the same age group don't have credit cards so they can't subscribe therefore you can't claim they have a proponderance of fans that are 'peers'. The context you put the girls in is entirely sexual and the audience for your site is entirely adult. The conclusion? Well, obvious - you're catering to pedofiles. I am sure you have no problem sleeping at night over what you do. However, one thing is for sure - life is circular and in one form or another you'll pay someday for all the sickening abuse you've promoted.

My thoughts on CCBill? Well, I love the people over there but they've acted like assholes for years about these kinds of sites. Their business is privately held and they have the right to make decisions about what clients they accept and what they don't. So yes, this cancellation is long overdue but our kudos don't go to CCBill, they go to VISA. And, in as much as I hate VISA these days, they do get a point for this in my book for finally effectuating some change.

Brad

Can I get a hell yeah!!!

Kimmykim · 11-09-2002, 12:32 AM

Interesting how everyone just assumes Visa told CCBill to stop billing for these sites. I guess they forgot to tell at least one other popular processor.

jim j bullocks, oh wait you use mutt these days right? you're a dumbass, I have always thought so.

Edit for clarification -- from your days attempting to slur people on hahahahahahaha anonymously to your STUPID rants about blacks on blondes to most anything that comes out of your mouth.

Funny how you never go to shows, people's get togethers or anything else.

Brad Mitchell · 11-09-2002, 01:13 AM

Kimmy, I don't know who or what is responsible for the change... all I know is that it's long overdue. Claiming that it was never against the rules is no excuse for the previously low standards that allowed such sites to flourish while catering to pedofiles and others that have those fantasies.

I truly adore a plethora of people at ccbill, from sales all the way up through every family member I've met. Such wonderful people, I honestly can't connect the dots to figure out how they ever got mixed up with those sites. I do know that when you're running a business that is growing exponentially, problems that were once small details can fester into a plague before you notice it.

I am glad for everybody that this era is nearly behind CCBill. Once some time has passed and everyone knows these sites aren't allowed at CCBill, they'll surely get more clients. There are a TON of people who have hated them over this issue for years. If *I* were in public relations at CCBill, I'd go on the offensive and make sure everyone, everywhere knows these sites no longer have a safe harbor with CCBill.

Without 'modeling' sites and bestiality sites I think there is some smooth sailing ahead. I think this fresh start and enforcement of higher standards will help to create a legacy that is without tarnish, one that they can be very proud of.

Cheers,

Brad

[The Leader] · 11-09-2002, 01:36 AM

yeah what Brad said

The sooner these sites are gone the better

eru · 11-09-2002, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
Please tell me that MET will finally be moving to DiBill where it belongs..

I thought all the girls at MET were over 18.

11-08-2002, 07:31 PM	#1
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	CCbill.. pulling the plug? Anyone have info on this? Just got a letter from ccbill saying that as of Nov. 15th they will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites. While I agree that the child porn and other garbage needs to be controled and or eliminated, there is a huge market for legitimate teen model websites. I happen to run a couple that are totally non-nude and are tasteful teen sites. I also understand that these processors are getting a ton of heat from Visa i.e. the $750.00 we all had to pay and what not. What really pisses me off is that I got this letter from ccbill at 9pm est on Friday and I got a whole 6 days to shut down my site and find another processor. It is my understanding that they have known these changes were coming for over a month without one word to their webmasters. To make it worse.. they collected the $750.00 and sold me a new, dedicated server in the last few days $2400.00 without one word of these changes that will effect 30% of my sales. With the new Visa restrictions I can not just go find another processor without having Visa's stamp of approval and since my paperwork is still being process through ccbill I am totally fucked. I might not be able to be up and running again for over thirty days.. Why the hell did they not give us warning? I mean I do 200K a year in sales at ccbill and no warning? Bull Shit. I guess I am just fucked. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 11-08-2002 at 07:34 PM..

11-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#4
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11-08-2002, 07:36 PM	#8
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11-08-2002, 07:40 PM	#11
Lexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 1,489	DiBill - I'm moving my teen scat sites there also... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-08-2002, 07:41 PM	#15
Lexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 1,489	On a serious note... if CCBill will have a problem processing any paysites with the word teen on them... then I'll have to move also. shit. shit. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-08-2002, 07:34 PM	#2
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	Yeah, you're fucked all right. Fucked in the head. I hope all you bastards get shut down.

11-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#5
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	Give me an example of a teen site ibill wont process? The site in your sig seems ok..

11-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#6
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	Only took them 5 years.

11-08-2002, 07:36 PM	#9
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Good its about time. Let the little girls wait until they are 18 before you put them on the net. Exploiting children in the sex industry, you should be ashamed.

11-08-2002, 07:38 PM	#10
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	I just bought 5,000 blank Sony DVDs to copy movies and sell them from my garage. Can you believe Sony's movie distribution department called me with a cease and desist? After I bought all of those DVDs? What is this world coming to?!

11-08-2002, 07:41 PM	#12
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	PED

11-08-2002, 07:41 PM	#14
p\|mpdog So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 140	I will give you 1200 for the server... post the specs

11-08-2002, 07:43 PM	#17
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Ahh my bad.. This is the self-righteous, S.O.B room. Who?s the moderator? Jerry Falwell? Gzzzz __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-08-2002, 07:44 PM	#19
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	"will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites. " I think this is the point some people arent seeing. Under eighteen. Not just any site that uses 'teen'

11-08-2002, 07:45 PM	#20
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11-08-2002, 07:45 PM	#21
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Come on Jeff, you should know better. You know plenty of girls over 18, there's no need to delve into anything less.

11-08-2002, 07:46 PM	#24
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	http://www.pedbill.com

11-08-2002, 07:48 PM	#27
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Holy Shit Frank! LOL You get around man. Well you certainly know my reputation for knowing those 18 year and over girls! LOL! These damn message boards will be the death of me. LOL __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-08-2002, 07:56 PM	#30
Lexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 1,489	He's got some real cuties there though...

11-08-2002, 08:01 PM	#31
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Thanks Laxxx. We try man. Hey Frank.. send me an email and I will tell you why the old "Brittany's" site made the change. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-08-2002, 08:07 PM	#32
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	This is good news.

11-08-2002, 08:45 PM	#34
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,730	Please tell me that MET will finally be moving to DiBill where it belongs..

11-08-2002, 08:50 PM	#35
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	Your selling borderline child pornography. Don't expect too much sympathy to your situation. Sure, it may be fully legal but your touching a very fine line into CP. I doubt you can find a replacement CC processor in the USA, so best of luck. I'm glad ccBill is cracking down on these type of sites. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-08-2002, 08:56 PM	#36
Webmasturbator So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 210	His site was down when I checked it.

11-08-2002, 08:58 PM	#37
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	while it's pretty fucked up that people are ok with publishing under-18 sites, i'd have to say CCBill fucked this guy, too. i didn't know CCBill sold dedicated servers (maybe through their hosting company?) but the $750 probably shouldn't have been collected (assuming it was) if they were going to shut off the processing a few days later. __________________

11-08-2002, 09:13 PM	#39
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11-08-2002, 09:17 PM	#40
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	You are a PIECE of SHIT Mr. PerfectionGirls. You're from Michigan, that's the state with the Attorney General who is all over these underage teen model sites pandering to sleazebags who want to jerk off to 13 year olds. Nobody give CCBILL a pat on the back. They've processed for this shit and worse for years, lying through their teeth all the while. There are LIVES behind those young faces that have been irrepairably damaged. CCBILL has always been part of the problem not part of the solution. They are now desperate to stay in business, that is the only reason they are now going to distance themselves from this shit. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-08-2002, 09:19 PM	#41
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	and what fucking idiot who runs underage teen sites is stupid enough to crawl out from under his rock and post to a webmaster board? most of the losers are smart enough to at least keep to themselves and under the radar screen. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-08-2002, 09:23 PM	#42
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Um, hello?? Ccbill obviously has no choice but to do this, as visa will not approve processing for a sex site that features underage girls, clothed or not. Yeah its about time, but as you can see they are gonna take every last cent they can from the sick pedos, since processing will continue til the 15th.

11-08-2002, 09:28 PM	#43
Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	Down with pedophile porn

11-08-2002, 09:56 PM	#44
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11-09-2002, 12:24 AM	#45
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I'm excited that your website will be without billing... that you'll lose all of your recurring revenue. It's about fucking time. Legality isn't the question here. You sell memberships to pedofiles. Your website serves only one purpose, getting off real pedofiles and people with those fantasies. So, dress it up any way you like - you're a fucking scumbag. Your websites serve no legitimate purpose and an argument can't be made that they have any redeeming artistic value - most especially because they are behind a payment system. Why? People in the same age group don't have credit cards so they can't subscribe therefore you can't claim they have a proponderance of fans that are 'peers'. The context you put the girls in is entirely sexual and the audience for your site is entirely adult. The conclusion? Well, obvious - you're catering to pedofiles. I am sure you have no problem sleeping at night over what you do. However, one thing is for sure - life is circular and in one form or another you'll pay someday for all the sickening abuse you've promoted. My thoughts on CCBill? Well, I love the people over there but they've acted like assholes for years about these kinds of sites. Their business is privately held and they have the right to make decisions about what clients they accept and what they don't. So yes, this cancellation is long overdue but our kudos don't go to CCBill, they go to VISA. And, in as much as I hate VISA these days, they do get a point for this in my book for finally effectuating some change. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

11-09-2002, 12:32 AM	#47
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Interesting how everyone just assumes Visa told CCBill to stop billing for these sites. I guess they forgot to tell at least one other popular processor. jim j bullocks, oh wait you use mutt these days right? you're a dumbass, I have always thought so. Edit for clarification -- from your days attempting to slur people on hahahahahahaha anonymously to your STUPID rants about blacks on blondes to most anything that comes out of your mouth. Funny how you never go to shows, people's get togethers or anything else. Last edited by Kimmykim; 11-09-2002 at 12:35 AM..

11-09-2002, 01:13 AM	#48
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Kimmy, I don't know who or what is responsible for the change... all I know is that it's long overdue. Claiming that it was never against the rules is no excuse for the previously low standards that allowed such sites to flourish while catering to pedofiles and others that have those fantasies. I truly adore a plethora of people at ccbill, from sales all the way up through every family member I've met. Such wonderful people, I honestly can't connect the dots to figure out how they ever got mixed up with those sites. I do know that when you're running a business that is growing exponentially, problems that were once small details can fester into a plague before you notice it. I am glad for everybody that this era is nearly behind CCBill. Once some time has passed and everyone knows these sites aren't allowed at CCBill, they'll surely get more clients. There are a TON of people who have hated them over this issue for years. If I were in public relations at CCBill, I'd go on the offensive and make sure everyone, everywhere knows these sites no longer have a safe harbor with CCBill. Without 'modeling' sites and bestiality sites I think there is some smooth sailing ahead. I think this fresh start and enforcement of higher standards will help to create a legacy that is without tarnish, one that they can be very proud of. Cheers, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

11-09-2002, 01:36 AM	#49
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	yeah what Brad said The sooner these sites are gone the better