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Old 11-09-2002, 01:44 AM   #51
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I thought all the girls at MET were over 18.
...you are kidding, aren't you?
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:38 AM   #52
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:48 AM   #53
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did i miss something? this guy didnt say he had teen nudism sites did he?

but if it wasnt high risk why would he pay the visa fee, etc

mebbe i misunderstood what teen 'modeling' is but he said non-nude ... again plz clarify if im off base here

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Old 11-09-2002, 02:53 AM   #54
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did i miss something? this guy didnt say he had teen nudism sites did he?

but if it wasnt high risk why would he pay the visa fee, etc

mebbe i misunderstood what teen 'modeling' is but he said non-nude ... again plz clarify if im off base here
I got the feeling he was attempting to put a more acceptable edge to his argument......I maybe wrong, but if it was just 'modeling' he probably wouldn't be on this board.
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Old 11-09-2002, 03:17 AM   #55
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Without 'modeling' sites and bestiality sites I think there is some smooth sailing ahead. [/B]
I wish I could be so optimistic.

Take a look at how A federal prosecutor thinks. (thanks to Phogirl69 for posting this on another board)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ws/taylor.html

''A lot of the pornographers are betting their lives that, because they created this other side of the porn industry that handles the more extreme material, now that they've set up these really bad guys to do extreme porn, that those are the ones the prosecutors are going to go after, and that the other guys, like Flynt or Vivid Video or whoever else is not going to get prosecuted"
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Well said Brad...I wonder if this guy realizes Granholm just won the election...if they find him he wont have sites running for very long anyhow.
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Old 11-09-2002, 09:56 AM   #57
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I wish I could be so optimistic.

Take a look at how A federal prosecutor thinks. (thanks to Phogirl69 for posting this on another board)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ws/taylor.html

''A lot of the pornographers are betting their lives that, because they created this other side of the porn industry that handles the more extreme material, now that they've set up these really bad guys to do extreme porn, that those are the ones the prosecutors are going to go after, and that the other guys, like Flynt or Vivid Video or whoever else is not going to get prosecuted"
I meant smooth sailing for them as a 3rd party billing company... shoes will unfortunately continue to drop for us as the government tries to squeeze out all XXX on the web.

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Old 11-09-2002, 10:44 AM   #58
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Can I get a hell yeah!!!
How about a hell fucking yeah?

Its shit like this thats going to ruin it for us all.
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Kimmy, I don't know who or what is responsible for the change... all I know is that it's long overdue. Claiming that it was never against the rules is no excuse for the previously low standards that allowed such sites to flourish while catering to pedofiles and others that have those fantasies.

I truly adore a plethora of people at ccbill, from sales all the way up through every family member I've met. Such wonderful people, I honestly can't connect the dots to figure out how they ever got mixed up with those sites. I do know that when you're running a business that is growing exponentially, problems that were once small details can fester into a plague before you notice it.

I am glad for everybody that this era is nearly behind CCBill. Once some time has passed and everyone knows these sites aren't allowed at CCBill, they'll surely get more clients. There are a TON of people who have hated them over this issue for years. If *I* were in public relations at CCBill, I'd go on the offensive and make sure everyone, everywhere knows these sites no longer have a safe harbor with CCBill.

Without 'modeling' sites and bestiality sites I think there is some smooth sailing ahead. I think this fresh start and enforcement of higher standards will help to create a legacy that is without tarnish, one that they can be very proud of.

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I am glad for everybody that this era is nearly behind CCBill. Once some time has passed and everyone knows these sites aren't allowed at CCBill, they'll surely get more clients. There are a TON of people who have hated them over this issue for years.
Brad, you know I like you and I respect your opinion. However, 90% of the people that scream the loudest about stuff have and use accounts at CCBill, and the other company that processes these sites.

While I dont work there any more, I can tell you the policy has been -- for more than two years -- that no one nude and under 18 was allowed on sites they processed. Did certain companies change their tours and members areas after they were approved? Sure. Did some people do it repeatedly? Sure. And in the end they were terminated. Even MET had to clean house a few months ago or be terminated.

As for the non nude teen sites -- which is what this guy appears to be talking about, if their parents sign a release, which is what was required when I was there, there is not much that a processor can then find wrong with a legal site.

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Brad, you know I like you and I respect your opinion. However, 90% of the people that scream the loudest about stuff have and use accounts at CCBill, and the other company that processes these sites.

While I dont work there any more, I can tell you the policy has been -- for more than two years -- that no one nude and under 18 was allowed on sites they processed. Did certain companies change their tours and members areas after they were approved? Sure. Did some people do it repeatedly? Sure. And in the end they were terminated. Even MET had to clean house a few months ago or be terminated.

As for the non nude teen sites -- which is what this guy appears to be talking about, if their parents sign a release, which is what was required when I was there, there is not much that a processor can then find wrong with a legal site.

It's very easy to say you don't like this, you don't like that, but the problem is that there is always something that someone doesn't like.
ya thats what i was asking. clothed teens r legal, so why did every1 jump all over him? frankly id rather pedos were looking at legal clothed kids and jerking off than looking at dads raping their daughters and going out to perpetrate the crimes.

im sure plenty of guys watched max hardcore videos and went and did sick shit 2 their girlfriends/whatever ... id bet that rule applies as well to pedophiles. im all for protecting kids but it seems like we r going after the wrong ppl here no?

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I'm excited that your website will be without billing... that you'll lose all of your recurring revenue. It's about fucking time. Legality isn't the question here. You sell memberships to pedofiles. Your website serves only one purpose, getting off real pedofiles and people with those fantasies.

So, dress it up any way you like - you're a fucking scumbag. Your websites serve no legitimate purpose and an argument can't be made that they have any redeeming artistic value - most especially because they are behind a payment system. Why? People in the same age group don't have credit cards so they can't subscribe therefore you can't claim they have a proponderance of fans that are 'peers'. The context you put the girls in is entirely sexual and the audience for your site is entirely adult. The conclusion? Well, obvious - you're catering to pedofiles. I am sure you have no problem sleeping at night over what you do. However, one thing is for sure - life is circular and in one form or another you'll pay someday for all the sickening abuse you've promoted.

My thoughts on CCBill? Well, I love the people over there but they've acted like assholes for years about these kinds of sites. Their business is privately held and they have the right to make decisions about what clients they accept and what they don't. So yes, this cancellation is long overdue but our kudos don't go to CCBill, they go to VISA. And, in as much as I hate VISA these days, they do get a point for this in my book for finally effectuating some change.

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ya thats what i was asking. clothed teens r legal, so why did every1 jump all over him? frankly id rather pedos were looking at legal clothed kids and jerking off than looking at dads raping their daughters and going out to perpetrate the crimes.

im sure plenty of guys watched max hardcore videos and went and did sick shit 2 their girlfriends/whatever ... id bet that rule applies as well to pedophiles. im all for protecting kids but it seems like we r going after the wrong ppl here no?

You're an idiot. Shit like this will just get the urge up for them to go and act on their impluses.

Either way you cut it it is still being sold to pedos. someone should forward his members list to the right legal dept. as im sure most of his customers probably have CP on their computers already.
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15th they will no longer process "teen" under eighteen year old sites.
Umm, does that mean that utill that date they DID process for sites with UNDERAGE models? WTF?
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Umm, does that mean that utill that date they DID process for sites with UNDERAGE models? WTF?
my thoughts exactly. but i'm assuming they were processing non-nude under 18 models. which is bordering on kiddie porn.
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You're an idiot. Shit like this will just get the urge up for them to go and act on their impluses.

Either way you cut it it is still being sold to pedos. someone should forward his members list to the right legal dept. as im sure most of his customers probably have CP on their computers already.
Agreed... fuck get those girls to wait until their a little bit older and realize what people look at images like that for.

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No kidding! It is 1 pm now, saner thoughts have prevailed! Jeff doesn't need this shit right now!!






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there is a huge market for legitimate teen model websites. I happen to run a couple that are totally non-nude and are tasteful teen sites.
legitimate? Maybe in pedo terms. You gotta be kidding, who would want to see underage girls modeling except for pedophiles. If you don't mind taking money from people who are obviously jerking off to kids then I guess you should be worried that ccbill pulled the plug on that trash.
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Teen (under 18) and Preteen model sites are Ped gateways. They should be off the net and not associated with this industry. The only question I( have is why it took CCbill so long to deal with this type of site?
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Good job ccbill, Just heard my lil neighbour girl is abused, by some dirty man watching kids all day on the internet. Hope that he may burn in hell, together with those preteen(but maybe still legal) site-owners. You know when you put a 12 year old in a bikini, or topless girl online, ppl will join to enjoy and jerk off on it..Nothing art about that.

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Jeff sucks sooooo much...I just want to keep this thread bumped up so that everyone can know what a scamming piece of shit and a boderline pedofile that he is!
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Jeff sucks sooooo much...I just want to keep this thread bumped up so that everyone can know what a scamming piece of shit and a boderline pedofile that he is!
wheather he is a pedo or not is not the question, just his biz morals are the problem.
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All these fucking model/art/NN teen sites need to take a hike.
A child has no business being marketed. They should be out playing and not gawked at by 12,000,000 pedos online.

Not to mention the bad rep they bring unto the adult biz.

Sites like MET and underage clothed and bikini sites are what is giving "Teen" porn a bad rep. it's to the point now that the word "teen" is banned on some large tgp's. Think about it.
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lol- I'm so happy to see all these post supporting this action. I'm always ranting about teen sites and the play on wording to promote young girl sites.

I'd never sell one or support one in any fashion. It's bad karma. One day you'll have a kid and understand why.
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You done making fun of a 10 month old post? lol hahaha!

p00p... lol you kill me you frinkin teen lover you! lol
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Naw, CCBill is rock solid. This thread is about Jeff from Perfection Girls worried about CCBill shutting down his pre-teen pedo sites.
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Old 06-13-2003, 10:06 PM   #96
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ok I have no non-nude or gore sites, but it seems to me that the main complaint about these type of sites is that it encourages pedos to go out and molest someone.

by the same token, couldn't we say that gore encourages the sad sick fucks who like it to go out and dismember someone?
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Old 06-13-2003, 10:34 PM   #97
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Yeah, sorry about that. There is just something about sites that exist so pedophiles the world over can masturbate to the images of 10 year old girls that pisses some people off.
fucking A..pisses me off. Kids should be allowed to be kids..

Little girls dont need to be nude for the peds to get all excited ansd spank off..

Shame on the parents for allowing images of their young girls to be exploited ..don't ya just love the term "modeling sites"
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fucking A..pisses me off. Kids should be allowed to be kids..

Little girls dont need to be nude for the peds to get all excited ansd spank off..

Shame on the parents for allowing images of their young girls to be exploited ..don't ya just love the term "modeling sites"
and your sig says 'mother spanking daughters' lol...
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If only all the processors would pull the plug.
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Old 06-13-2003, 10:39 PM   #100
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If only all the processors would pull the plug.
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