Fetish Bucks Nats Upgrade?

[smutnut]

Are other affiliates being negatively affected by this upgrade in anyway, or just some of us? Just curious how others are handling this since my old codes still aren't working and I seem to have to switch to new ones (which is a real ass fucking to me)

[smutnut]

Bump for me.

Just finding it hard to believe i'm the only fucking guy who's codes are screwed up and not recording. Did everybody figure these guys out a long time ago and decide to stop promoting them?

They did fuck up the codes once before this promised awesome upgrade.

How many sponsors upgrade to nats seemlessly? I'm just curious.

[fallenmuffin]

I stopped promoting them almost 2 years ago after they delayed payouts by 6 months at any given time. Then the big NATS upgrade was in the works for months and months. A few good sites in their lineup but its a joke program mate.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

I stopped promoting them almost 2 years ago after they delayed payouts by 6 months at any given time. Then the big NATS upgrade was in the works for months and months. A few good sites in their lineup but its a joke program mate.

It's surely starting to look that way. I get a lot of interracial traffic so I thought I'd squeeze them in, but I think if I have to personally change their links (like it looks like I'm going to have to do), I'm going to give them to someone else.

I just hate the idea that they are getting a lot of free traffic off me now from old stuff I have floating around that I probably can't find to change

[smutnut]

Bump.

Just to see if these guys ever respond to this thread. They seem to be flying way below the radar. Can't even find any recent posts.

On the bright side I now know it doesn't take much and you don't need much respectability to run your own pay sites

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

I stopped promoting them almost 2 years ago after they delayed payouts by 6 months at any given time. Then the big NATS upgrade was in the works for months and months. A few good sites in their lineup but its a joke program mate.

What he said.

[Dirty D]

NATS integrations should be seamless.
Which means no changing of codes!

We did not lose a single click in our conversion.

[smutnut]

Well, I tracked down all my webmaster referral codes to them and got rid of them (don't want to be a party to this bullshit), and next I start eliminating as many of my own links as I can find and that won't get me blacklisted from tgp's.

Like someone just said. Their sites ain't all that anyway.

[TheDoc]

Hey guys, I am now working with Fetish Bucks and yes we have had some issues, but tracking codes are passing through correctly now. If you have any links with issues, just hit up the FB guys and they will pass it along to me for correction.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Hey guys, I am now working with Fetish Bucks and yes we have had some issues, but tracking codes are passing through correctly now. If you have any links with issues, just hit up the FB guys and they will pass it along to me for correction.

This is the same shit I've been hearing from dig420 since I tried to contact him after getting ignored by Buzz.

Now, I'm being ignored on ICQ.

The only stats I'm getting are the ones I've physically swapped out on my own. I'm leaving some up just to see how full of shit you guys are and to make sure you don't come back with anymore of this bullshit, but I'm taking down all the ones from my main domain pages.

I'll let you know when they are reading correctly and I don't understand why each affiliate should have to contact them several times to get their old codes that are floating around the internet to record hits.

[smutnut]

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

This is the same shit I've been hearing from dig420 since I tried to contact him after getting ignored by Buzz.

Now, I'm being ignored on ICQ.

The only stats I'm getting are the ones I've physically swapped out on my own. I'm leaving some up just to see how full of shit you guys are and to make sure you don't come back with anymore of this bullshit, but I'm taking down all the ones from my main domain pages.

I'll let you know when they are reading correctly and I don't understand why each affiliate should have to contact them several times to get their old codes that are floating around the internet to record hits.

Previously dig420 hadn't contracted me, I actually know what I'm doing.

Old FB was on ES which is the hardest of integrations. Then several hands before me have been in it to try and do what they said they could, but couldn't.

Honestly FB isn't a small setup, and with so many other hands in it first, I kinda had no choice but to just push it live and deal with the issues as they come up.

But dealing with the issues I am and I will get fetishbucks back up and kicking ass for you guys as quickly as I can. Right now, everything is tracking and I'm working with the processors on the reporting back issues.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Previously dig420 hadn't contracted me, I actually know what I'm doing.

Old FB was on ES which is the hardest of integrations. Then several hands before me have been in it to try and do what they said they could, but couldn't.

Honestly FB isn't a small setup, and with so many other hands in it first, I kinda had no choice but to just push it live and deal with the issues as they come up.

But dealing with the issues I am and I will get fetishbucks back up and kicking ass for you guys as quickly as I can. Right now, everything is tracking and I'm working with the processors on the reporting back issues.

I still don't quite get what you're talking about. There new codes are obviously tracking as long as you swap them out personally and manually on your own. I just told you that. If someone is going to have to give you all their url's and what not, that's fucking almost impossible and for most people a waste of time and complete utter incompetence and they should be chased out of the business.

If this is supposed to come around eventually on it's own cause you're a specialist, I'll let you know when that happens.

I'll also keep a close eye on it and let everyone know if it doesn't

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

I still don't quite get what you're talking about. There new codes are obviously tracking as long as you swap them out personally and manually on your own. I just told you that. If someone is going to have to give you all their url's and what not, that's fucking almost impossible and for most people a waste of time and complete utter incompetence and they should be chased out of the business.

If this is supposed to come around eventually on it's own cause you're a specialist, I'll let you know when that happens.

I'll also keep a close eye on it and let everyone know if it doesn't

Instead of letting me know what happens or bitching about issues I can't see, how about you provide links that aren't working, you know.. help, rather than complain?

It's great that you will let people know if it doesn't work, it can sometimes help get the word out. But are you going to come praise them when they get it working and make sure everyone knows that too?

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Instead of letting me know what happens or bitching about issues I can't see, how about you provide links that aren't working, you know.. help, rather than complain?

It's great that you will let people know if it doesn't work, it can sometimes help get the word out. But are you going to come praise them when they get it working and make sure everyone knows that too?

Well, if you follow my threads, you'll see I always thank someone for coming through for me. Problem is, I usually only bitch for a good reason (again follow my threads) and thanking, or worse, giving points to someone for just doing their regular job or what's expected is sort of like "WHAT THE FUCK?"

Now, back to the urls. If I have to track down all my urls and give them to you, why don't I just personally swap out the links on my own, and fuck everyone else?

you understand the dilemma correct?

P.S. this isn't day 1 of me discovering this problem and I've been very patient.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Well, if you follow my threads, you'll see I always thank someone for coming through for me. Problem is, I usually only bitch for a good reason (again follow my threads) and thanking, or worse, giving points to someone for just doing their regular job or what's expected is sort of like "WHAT THE FUCK?"

Now, back to the urls. If I have to track down all my urls and give them to you, why don't I just personally swap out the links on my own, and fuck everyone else?

you understand the dilemma correct?

P.S. this isn't day 1 of me discovering this problem and I've been very patient.

You going to provide the links or not?

NATS (TMM) is the one that corrects this and they do it for ALL Webmasters. So if one of your links doesn't work, it means NATS/TMM needs to correct it and I need to update the tours. We have checked tons of links, so we are interested in any links that don't work, we need to figure out why.

Again, since I wasn't the first to have my hands in this, and I forced it live so I could find the errors, I'm not really sure what you aren't understanding about this, if you provide information on errors, I will get them corrected.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

You going to provide the links or not?

NATS (TMM) is the one that corrects this and they do it for ALL Webmasters. So if one of your links doesn't work, it means NATS/TMM needs to correct it and I need to update the tours. We have checked tons of links, so we are interested in any links that don't work, we need to figure out why.

Again, since I wasn't the first to have my hands in this, and I forced it live so I could find the errors, I'm not really sure what you aren't understanding about this, if you provide information on errors, I will get them corrected.

I don't want you fucking with my sites. I'm deleting most of there stuff and doing what I said, keeping an eye. I'll update anything I can't just get rid of manually. I don't trust you. I don't trust them. This isn't the first time I've had code problems with them and everyone else who can just do it by me giving them my original sign up codes and that should be enough.

I know what's going on and you guys are hacks

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

I don't want you fucking with my sites. I'm deleting most of there stuff and doing what I said, keeping an eye. I'll update anything I can't just get rid of manually. I don't trust you. I don't trust them. This isn't the first time I've had code problems with them and everyone else who can just do it by me giving them my original sign up codes and that should be enough.

I know what's going on and you guys are hacks

Why would I fuck with your sites?

I just need your old ES linking codes that you say aren't working. I don't care if you are talking them down or putting them. I just need the links so I can get NATS to correct them.

Otherwise this thread is starting to sound more like program slander with no current proof.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Why would I fuck with your sites?

I just need your old ES linking codes that you say aren't working. I don't care if you are talking them down or putting them. I just need the links so I can get NATS to correct them.

Otherwise this thread is starting to sound more like program slander with no current proof.

Okay, well since you called me out. You just need the base code number right?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Okay, well since you called me out. You just need the base code number right?

The URL, the linking code.. So I can see the site, tour id, and such. I'm just going to post it in the open ticket in NATS. If the script is screwed up or something is missing, it needs to be corrected. It's as simple as that.

[smutnut]

trying to contact you right now on icq

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The URL, the linking code.. So I can see the site, tour id, and such. I'm just going to post it in the open ticket in NATS. If the script is screwed up or something is missing, it needs to be corrected. It's as simple as that.

They have like a five number code in all their urls. I have hundreds of urls. If you need all mine, that's what I mean by being useless. if you need the five number code no problem.

You can call it slander if you want. I call it "hack" if you can't swap codes from their with the five original numbers you need for all urls

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The URL, the linking code.. So I can see the site, tour id, and such. I'm just going to post it in the open ticket in NATS. If the script is screwed up or something is missing, it needs to be corrected. It's as simple as that.

Why do you need to see the tour? Everyone has the same unless they did something specific to themselves. The only thing different are the individual sign up codes. They should be able to give you all other info from their end.

I haven't built anything unique for myself specific to them, believe me.

[smutnut]

Actually if you're even kind of what you're claiming, you should be easily able to match the codes that I have registering now to my old codes and make a perfect match

[Sly]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Why do you need to see the tour? Everyone has the same unless they did something specific to themselves. The only thing different are the individual sign up codes. They should be able to give you all other info from their end.

I haven't built anything unique for myself specific to them, believe me.

No... many of the FB sites have multiple tours. He is asking you to give him the address you are promoting so he can check it out and see what is going on because the address that you used to promote can have several different variables in it that could affect the final outcome. For example, your ID of course, the campaign number that you used, and the tour that you used.

All TheDoc is asking you for is the link that you are using to promote any of the FB sites. Example: http://www.darkcavern.com/maintour.php/16942/21/S

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Sly

No... many of the FB sites have multiple tours. He is asking you to give him the address you are promoting so he can check it out and see what is going on because the address that you used to promote can have several different variables in it that could affect the final outcome. For example, your ID of course, the campaign number that you used, and the tour that you used.

All TheDoc is asking you for is the link that you are using to promote any of the FB sites. Example: http://www.darkcavern.com/maintour.php/16942/21/S

It can only have so many variables, dude. I'm not a programmer, but I'm not an idiot either. They have a basic five number code to sign up with that's unique to me and all the other variables are on their end.

Anyway, we're talking and he's trying to get to the bottom of it, but I'll believe it when it gets fixed and be sure to let you know.

[smutnut]

I left, I got drunk, I got my dick sucked. Came back two hours later - nothing.

vini vidi vici

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Sly

No... many of the FB sites have multiple tours. He is asking you to give him the address you are promoting so he can check it out and see what is going on because the address that you used to promote can have several different variables in it that could affect the final outcome. For example, your ID of course, the campaign number that you used, and the tour that you used.

All TheDoc is asking you for is the link that you are using to promote any of the FB sites. Example: http://www.darkcavern.com/maintour.php/16942/21/S

One more thing. You're saying all your codes are working and transferring to nats. You can read your stats in nats from that code? All your hits?

[smutnut]

If this is going to be another Lord Of The Rings type quest I can start a new thread.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

I left, I got drunk, I got my dick sucked. Came back two hours later - nothing.

vini vidi vici

2 hours? Hahahahahahaha...Try back in a week.

And your clicks are tracking, fully, as they should be, even your hosted gallery on mom melons, pushing DC Brandi, on the old ES code, tracks clicks perfectly fine. You should look at the RAW count go up, not the unique.

You gave me a URL on ICQ that actually worked and you stated you didn't know how to read nats stats.

Is this bullshit slander going to continue or do I get to just turn into a dick head?

[smutnut]

4 pm and nothing is well. Same old same old despite the genuises now getting involved. I can't wait until the rocket scientists and nobel peace prize winners lend a hand.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

2 hours? Hahahahahahaha...Try back in a week.

And your clicks are tracking, fully, as they should be, even your hosted gallery on mom melons, pushing DC Brandi, on the old ES code, tracks clicks perfectly fine. You should look at the RAW count go up, not the unique.

You gave me a URL on ICQ that actually worked and you stated you didn't know how to read nats stats.

Is this bullshit slander going to continue or do I get to just turn into a dick head?

Okay, so you're telling me if I sign into nats now, I will read something besides sluttywhitewife and wimpywhiteboy as stats. how come I'm not seeing the mommymelons stats and only you are.

i don't really care that you can read the raw database if I can't

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

2 hours? Hahahahahahaha...Try back in a week.

And your clicks are tracking, fully, as they should be, even your hosted gallery on mom melons, pushing DC Brandi, on the old ES code, tracks clicks perfectly fine. You should look at the RAW count go up, not the unique.

You gave me a URL on ICQ that actually worked and you stated you didn't know how to read nats stats.

Is this bullshit slander going to continue or do I get to just turn into a dick head?

I'll cut and paste since I know you can now read something even if I can't just so you know I'm not full of shit. I want to know why I'm only seeing the stats I changed. It doesn't help me at all as far as marketing or submitting to know you can read them but I can't.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

2 hours? Hahahahahahaha...Try back in a week.

And your clicks are tracking, fully, as they should be, even your hosted gallery on mom melons, pushing DC Brandi, on the old ES code, tracks clicks perfectly fine. You should look at the RAW count go up, not the unique.

You gave me a URL on ICQ that actually worked and you stated you didn't know how to read nats stats.

Is this bullshit slander going to continue or do I get to just turn into a dick head?

I have to admit I'm impressed though. I even forgot about that one particular url or site and until I just thought what I might have used to promote that one.

How come you can read it and I can't?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Okay, so you're telling me if I sign into nats now, I will read something besides sluttywhitewife and wimpywhiteboy as stats. how come I'm not seeing the mommymelons stats and only you are.

i don't really care that you can read the raw database if I can't

Raw database? Look at your raw clicks when you click the link, they go up. You can only click any link once in a 24 hour period.

I didn't see your mommymelons in stats, I saw it on yahoo. And nats tracks referring URLs with cookies, and I can't be cookied.

All of these sites have more than 1 click for your account
Dark Cavern
Bizarre Insertions
Slut Wives
Cuckolds
Dark Cavern Barbi (1 unique, 9 raws) <-- me

[smutnut]

This is my recorded stats

Referrer Unq Hits Signups Ratio
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/ 28 0 0:28
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/ 9 0 0:9
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/cuckold-husband/che... 5 0 0:5
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/page/2/ 4 0 0:4
http://nats.fetishbucks.com/codes.php 3 0 0:3
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/?blogtrade=y 3 0 0:3
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/category/slutty-w... 2 0 0:2
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/gloryhole-slut/... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/category/black-co... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/interracial/slut-... 1 0 0:1
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/?blogtrade=y 1 0 0:1
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/category/cuckold-hu... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/interracial/slut-... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/interracial/slut-... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/slut-wife/angelic... 1 0 0:1
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/category/ass-licker... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/bcs-cuckold-queen... 1 0 0:1
http://www.sluttywhitewife.com/interracial/black... 1 0 0:1
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/category/big-black-... 1 0 0:1
http://www.wimpywhiteboy.com/creampie-eater/ging... 1 0 0:1
Total 67 0 0:67

Those are the only two domains with about 6 links being recorded.

I still don't get where you're coming from

[smutnut]

anything you can see beyond this, I can't and don't understand all the extra research I'm supposed to do so please explain it to me.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by smutnut

anything you can see beyond this, I can't and don't understand all the extra research I'm supposed to do so please explain it to me.

When your stats is load, click sites to the right for the day or total. Referring stats in nats aren't very good, they use cookies and it probably doesn't like that it goes through an ES redirect then NATS, which is different sub domains on the same domain.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

When your stats is load, click sites to the right for the day or total. Referring stats in nats aren't very good, they use cookies and it probably doesn't like that it goes through an ES redirect then NATS, which is different sub domains on the same domain.

Dude, nothing is changing. I'm seeing exactly what I posted. Why don't you cut and paste what you're seeing in the stats so I can see the difference.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

When your stats is load, click sites to the right for the day or total. Referring stats in nats aren't very good, they use cookies and it probably doesn't like that it goes through an ES redirect then NATS, which is different sub domains on the same domain.

Also why would someone upgrade to something where the stats aren't very good. Every other sponsor I use (and I use lots thank God) has none of these problems. I see exactly the sites and domains I post from. All my stats and sites without all the elaborate crap. All I have to do is sign in and see what's happening. I can even pull them into nifty stats.

[smutnut]

Did you get my last icq message? this post is coming from my laptop

Maybe this is all cool and I'll look like an asshole, but I don't think so. I'm seeing 117 raw about 86 unq all from two domains of which I changed the links manually on

[smutnut]

This will be too trippy if it's all about the wrong account, huh?

[smutnut]

Okay, dude that was pretty impressive if anyone is following this link.

I'm feeling much better about things

[smutnut]

Hey, dude, I think you semi fixed this. So I don't want to just fade out one way or the other. Anyway, thanks if you did (at least for the work around), since you stopped replying back on icq (I'm figuring you're pretty busy after what I just saw). I'll probably hook back up a couple links I dropped but I'm going to wait until you're done or say this is it.

Thanks again