Classmates.com lawsuit could affect dating sites - GoFuckYourself.com

Karupted Charles · 11-12-2008, 08:31 AM

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne.../11/classmates

When he found out real people were not looking for him online after upgrading he is now suing. Could this set a precident for some of the shady activity in dating sites?

Sands · 11-12-2008, 08:39 AM

The consumer in me is happy about this, but the affiliate marketer in me is disappointed.

Fletch XXX · 11-12-2008, 08:41 AM

the f-word is always bad

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"Cases that seemingly have a similar chuckle factor are rooted in a real consumer fraud that influences a consumer purchase decision," Kamber said. "Sometimes people are defrauded and misled and obviously there is a financial benefit in companies making those claims or they wouldn't do it."

cherrylula · 11-12-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne.../11/classmates

When he found out real people were not looking for him online after upgrading he is now suing. Could this set a precident for some of the shady activity in dating sites?

damn, and I just thought I was just really popular.

nojob · 11-12-2008, 09:06 AM

I will never sign up that site since it is a scam. It always tells you that you have all of these visitors and to find out who they are, you have to sign up. If they can not figure out how to reach me, then let them wait a few more years.

Tom_PM · 11-12-2008, 09:11 AM

I can tell you that classmates dot com emails me quite regularly telling me "someone you know is trying to contact you" with upgrade links to see who it was. Quite blatant bullshit and I gotta tell ya, I've been wondering if and when they'd pop up in the news.. and.. ba-zing. Sho nuff.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 11-12-2008, 09:12 AM

fuck, this assholes pulled the same shut on me.

fucking cunts

jakethedog · 11-12-2008, 09:14 AM

?? what ..?? that's why I joined .. CM ...FB ..MS and even GFY .. I want my money back as well

DamageX · 11-12-2008, 09:47 AM

A win for the plaintiff in that case could have implications for many more in this industry, not just the dating sites. It all depends on the actual wording of the ruling.

Iron Fist · 11-12-2008, 09:50 AM

If they are too stupid to use Facebook, then they don't need to contact me at all.

StuartD · 11-12-2008, 09:51 AM

It is a deceptive practice.
How many millions does that site make? Does it really need to be dishonest to make more or is there a chance it could still be profitable while being honest?

mona · 11-12-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

If they are too stupid to use Facebook, then they don't need to contact me at all.

Karupted Charles · 11-12-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

It is a deceptive practice.
How many millions does that site make? Does it really need to be dishonest to make more or is there a chance it could still be profitable while being honest?

Well since the blow up of Facebook more so then myspace I think it has become far less used. Not to mention paying for the service blows as it does not even have as many features or users as facebook.

Damage you have a good point. I read this and thought of the fake winks and nudges of dating sites but it may affect a wider demographic then that.

Z · 11-12-2008, 10:11 AM

You watch, this'll turn into a class action.

Machete_ · 11-12-2008, 10:14 AM

I hope they do. Scammers like that fuck up the market for the real and honest sites. I hope they run them in the the ground and keep jumping on them as soon as they stick their fugly head out again.

DamageX · 11-12-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

It is a deceptive practice.
How many millions does that site make? Does it really need to be dishonest to make more or is there a chance it could still be profitable while being honest?

No chance in hell. Would you pay $15 to have access to a site where you don't really have much of a chance of getting in touch with someone you know, when there's a much bigger chance of doing just that for free via facebook or myspace?

BradM · 11-12-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

No chance in hell. Would you pay $15 to have access to a site where you don't really have much of a chance of getting in touch with someone you know, when there's a much bigger chance of doing just that for free via facebook or myspace?

Exactly. You'd have to be a moron to pay for classmates at this point on the net.

DamageX · 11-12-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

Damage you have a good point. I read this and thought of the fake winks and nudges of dating sites but it may affect a wider demographic then that.

Reading the reference to Bonzi made me realize that most sponsors using the IM pop-up window ads may risk coming under fire already. Of course, since they did settle it doesn't set a legal precedent, but that won't keep some litigation-happy bozo from coming after them. In fact, that's exactly what I'd do if I were a litigation-happy bozo.

Snake Doctor · 11-12-2008, 10:23 AM

It may end up setting a precedent that would force those "girls in your area" ads to actually contain "girls in your area"

DamageX · 11-12-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

It may end up setting a precedent that would force those "girls in your area" ads to actually contain "girls in your area"

Or simply remove the pics and/or expand "your area" to include neighbouring countries.

collegeboobies · 11-12-2008, 10:27 AM

Wow, class action time?

Pete-KT · 11-12-2008, 10:31 AM

woof woof

JFK · 11-12-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Exactly. You'd have to be a moron to pay for classmates at this point on the net.

I signed up a long time ago for the free stuff, but they keep enticing me about long lost friends trying to get in touch. I lived in the same city for 40 yrs and I'm in the phone book , so those friends can look me up, if they really want to find me ;)

pornguy · 11-12-2008, 11:15 AM

If they sent him mail or notices saying that X was looking for him, and the only way to talk with them on the site was to upgrade, and it turned out to be a lie then they should pay.

Holly · 11-12-2008, 11:46 AM

My friend's younger brother joined a site called "Horny Matches" and he was telling us about all these chicks he was talking to. Their profiles all said they lived within 10 miles of him, but he'd never heard the name of most of the towns/cities they listed. And when he tried to question them about the exact area they were in, he said they'd ignore his questions or give weird answers.

He was doing this on a daily basis for over two months. I almost hated to tell him he was talking to some third-world beggar who'd never even been to the US, and almost certainly had a penis. He was pissed.

IllTestYourGirls · 11-12-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Exactly. You'd have to be a moron to pay for classmates at this point on the net.

Ive always thought that about Fling, AFF or other dating sites. Who the hell would pay for it when you have myspace, facebook and countless other social networking sites? But for some reason they still do.

Bama · 11-12-2008, 11:54 AM

I often wondered when dating websites will get hit for using fake profiles.

Don Pueblo · 11-12-2008, 12:03 PM

dating sites are parasites to the adult industry.
-they make money from adult traffic
-they bring nothing to the table
-they rip off the members with delusions of meeting someone to fuck in "your city here"
-they make fake profiles
-yadda yadda yadda
not sure why the industry lets these scumbags skate off with money that is ours.

name me one thing dating sites bring to the table?

Tom_PM · 11-12-2008, 12:09 PM

The catch is the wording of the emails. I looked to see if I'd saved one, but nope they all got deleted darn the luck.
They dont say someone MAY be trying to contact you.. they say they ARE trying to contact you.. that little "may" could be millions $$ now. Very poor choice they made, regardless of if classmates themselves were being lied to (which they claim as some pseudo "defense") or not.

DutchTeenCash · 11-12-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

It may end up setting a precedent that would force those "girls in your area" ads to actually contain "girls in your area"

I see a whole different content biz coming then, going door to door asking for a 2257 doc and a mugshot, cause - as anyone else - Raven lives next door if I believe those sites

mynameisjim · 11-12-2008, 12:32 PM

Wasn't match dot com caught for going as far as setting up fake dates with people then sending staff to follow through? If you do a search you will find the story.

Quentin · 11-12-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

It may end up setting a precedent that would force those "girls in your area" ads to actually contain "girls in your area"

Yeah.... the clear potential for slam-dunk false advertising claims aimed at dating and adult sites is something that I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on for some time now.

Rochard · 11-12-2008, 12:40 PM

I get the emails too - "X" amount of people have checked your profile in the past month, etc etc. Whatever.

I signed up once, looked around, great fine dandy. Set my profile and in the bio section included instructions on how to email getting around their censors. Every now and then I get an email from someone on classmates.com. However, if I haven't been in touch with you in the past twenty years chances are I don't give a fuck about you anyhow.

And it's not like you can't just plug my name into a search engine or look me up on Myspace.

okfling · 11-12-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Wasn't match dot com caught for going as far as setting up fake dates with people then sending staff to follow through? If you do a search you will find the story.

yes you are right

mynameisjim · 11-12-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin

Yeah.... the clear potential for slam-dunk false advertising claims aimed at dating and adult sites is something that I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on for some time now.

So wait, Carli Banks doesn't live in Schaumburg, Illinois and is so desperate to find men to fuck her she's joined an adult dating site?????

bobby666 · 11-12-2008, 12:49 PM

good idea to bring that on the table

FakeNick · 11-12-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Pueblo

name me one thing dating sites bring to the table?

revenue streams for content theives

DamageX · 11-13-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Quentin

Yeah.... the clear potential for slam-dunk false advertising claims aimed at dating and adult sites is something that I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on for some time now.

Interesting read. The question is, however, should any legal action occur in such a case, would they be able to use the user-submitted profile pictures loophole, like all of them have so far when they got called out for stealing content?

Juicy D. Links · 11-13-2008, 02:14 AM

I was so disappointed to learn that my high school sweetheart wasn't looking for me...

Pornwolf · 11-13-2008, 03:27 AM

Andrew and Lars will look like the biggest (or only) winners in paid dating in about a year.

NYRangers · 11-15-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Pueblo

dating sites are parasites to the adult industry.
-they make money from adult traffic
-they bring nothing to the table
-they rip off the members with delusions of meeting someone to fuck in "your city here"
-they make fake profiles
-yadda yadda yadda
not sure why the industry lets these scumbags skate off with money that is ours.

name me one thing dating sites bring to the table?

Seriously, could you be that ignorant and stupid? Can you reply to this thread in a year so we can know what you are doing? It might be fun to see if you are still posting mindless responses or if you have finally faded away.

DWB · 11-15-2008, 02:08 AM

You mean that dating sites as well as adult sites will scam people?

Oh noz! What is the internets coming to?

d-null · 11-15-2008, 02:27 AM

really, honesty and ethics should start to make a comeback and the dishonesty that is taken for granted by many will hopefully come back to bite alot of these lowlifes

lying or deceiving to obtain money is wrong and fraudulent and it would be nice to see it catch up to some people finally

andy83 · 11-15-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

The catch is the wording of the emails. I looked to see if I'd saved one, but nope they all got deleted darn the luck.
They dont say someone MAY be trying to contact you.. they say they ARE trying to contact you.. that little "may" could be millions $$ now. Very poor choice they made, regardless of if classmates themselves were being lied to (which they claim as some pseudo "defense") or not.

and they keep repeating it, making u feeling like you should sign up.. probably this guy felt the same and did so, then got fedup when he actually saw that none of those who ARE trying to contact him are people he knew.

WiredGuy · 11-15-2008, 12:40 PM

I wonder if this will stop all the dating companies from saying Raven Riley wants to date me if I pay for an upgraded membership.
WG

CarlosTheGaucho · 11-18-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I was so disappointed to learn that my high school sweetheart wasn't looking for me...

When I met my sweetheart from the high school three years ago it ended up with a very wild outdoors story..

tranza · 11-18-2008, 06:02 PM

OLD news??

$5 submissions · 11-18-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne.../11/classmates

When he found out real people were not looking for him online after upgrading he is now suing. Could this set a precident for some of the shady activity in dating sites?

Wouldn't affect POF and free dating sites. Those sites got huge because they offer real dates. Takes a long while to get a critical mass on..... Unless you're willing to put on a black hat

okfling · 11-18-2008, 08:44 PM

POF founder says free sites will be dead in the coming years. the cost will just be to high.

potter · 11-18-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

really, honesty and ethics should start to make a comeback and the dishonesty that is taken for granted by many will hopefully come back to bite alot of these lowlifes

lying or deceiving to obtain money is wrong and fraudulent and it would be nice to see it catch up to some people finally

agreed..

11-12-2008, 08:31 AM	#1
Karupted Charles Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: MI Posts: 1,662	Classmates.com lawsuit could affect dating sites http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne.../11/classmates When he found out real people were not looking for him online after upgrading he is now suing. Could this set a precident for some of the shady activity in dating sites? __________________ TPF 2010 "They are eating our sausages!"

11-12-2008, 09:11 AM	#6
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I can tell you that classmates dot com emails me quite regularly telling me "someone you know is trying to contact you" with upgrade links to see who it was. Quite blatant bullshit and I gotta tell ya, I've been wondering if and when they'd pop up in the news.. and.. ba-zing. Sho nuff. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

11-12-2008, 09:14 AM	#8
jakethedog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 2,497	?? what ..?? that's why I joined .. CM ...FB ..MS and even GFY .. I want my money back as well __________________ No sig .. just me

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DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	A win for the plaintiff in that case could have implications for many more in this industry, not just the dating sites. It all depends on the actual wording of the ruling. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	If they are too stupid to use Facebook, then they don't need to contact me at all. __________________ i like waffles

11-12-2008, 08:39 AM	#2
Sands Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 418194907 Posts: 3,134	The consumer in me is happy about this, but the affiliate marketer in me is disappointed.

11-12-2008, 09:06 AM	#5
nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	I will never sign up that site since it is a scam. It always tells you that you have all of these visitors and to find out who they are, you have to sign up. If they can not figure out how to reach me, then let them wait a few more years.

11-12-2008, 09:12 AM	#7
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	fuck, this assholes pulled the same shut on me. fucking cunts

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StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	It is a deceptive practice. How many millions does that site make? Does it really need to be dishonest to make more or is there a chance it could still be profitable while being honest? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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Z Vidi Vici Veni Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,308	You watch, this'll turn into a class action.

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Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	I hope they do. Scammers like that fuck up the market for the real and honest sites. I hope they run them in the the ground and keep jumping on them as soon as they stick their fugly head out again.

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11-12-2008, 10:27 AM	#21
collegeboobies So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,644	Wow, class action time?

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Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	My friend's younger brother joined a site called "Horny Matches" and he was telling us about all these chicks he was talking to. Their profiles all said they lived within 10 miles of him, but he'd never heard the name of most of the towns/cities they listed. And when he tried to question them about the exact area they were in, he said they'd ignore his questions or give weird answers. He was doing this on a daily basis for over two months. I almost hated to tell him he was talking to some third-world beggar who'd never even been to the US, and almost certainly had a penis. He was pissed. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle

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Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	I often wondered when dating websites will get hit for using fake profiles.

11-12-2008, 12:03 PM	#28
Don Pueblo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 656	dating sites are parasites to the adult industry. -they make money from adult traffic -they bring nothing to the table -they rip off the members with delusions of meeting someone to fuck in "your city here" -they make fake profiles -yadda yadda yadda not sure why the industry lets these scumbags skate off with money that is ours. name me one thing dating sites bring to the table? __________________ Don Pueblo Worlds Best Latin Lover

11-12-2008, 12:09 PM	#29
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	The catch is the wording of the emails. I looked to see if I'd saved one, but nope they all got deleted darn the luck. They dont say someone MAY be trying to contact you.. they say they ARE trying to contact you.. that little "may" could be millions $$ now. Very poor choice they made, regardless of if classmates themselves were being lied to (which they claim as some pseudo "defense") or not. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

11-12-2008, 12:32 PM	#31
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	Wasn't match dot com caught for going as far as setting up fake dates with people then sending staff to follow through? If you do a search you will find the story. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,320	I get the emails too - "X" amount of people have checked your profile in the past month, etc etc. Whatever. I signed up once, looked around, great fine dandy. Set my profile and in the bio section included instructions on how to email getting around their censors. Every now and then I get an email from someone on classmates.com. However, if I haven't been in touch with you in the past twenty years chances are I don't give a fuck about you anyhow. And it's not like you can't just plug my name into a search engine or look me up on Myspace. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I was so disappointed to learn that my high school sweetheart wasn't looking for me...

11-13-2008, 03:27 AM	#40
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Andrew and Lars will look like the biggest (or only) winners in paid dating in about a year. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-15-2008, 02:08 AM	#42
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	You mean that dating sites as well as adult sites will scam people? Oh noz! What is the internets coming to?

11-15-2008, 02:27 AM	#43
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	really, honesty and ethics should start to make a comeback and the dishonesty that is taken for granted by many will hopefully come back to bite alot of these lowlifes lying or deceiving to obtain money is wrong and fraudulent and it would be nice to see it catch up to some people finally

11-15-2008, 12:40 PM	#45
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,487	I wonder if this will stop all the dating companies from saying Raven Riley wants to date me if I pay for an upgraded membership. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	OLD news?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

11-18-2008, 08:44 PM	#49
okfling So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 112	POF founder says free sites will be dead in the coming years. the cost will just be to high.