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Old 11-24-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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Why promote Adult Friend Finder when they don't pay their 130$ as promised? [BUSTED!]

I've made a 130$ sale on 10/6/2008.

Now we take a look at Elli's post
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=859111

There's a contest running at the time I've made a sale!

And here's her words...
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For these specials there are NO minimum traffic requirements and no special "promo" days. These numbers are offered to every affiliate on every day of October!
Woohoooo! That means my sale worth of 130$ is really worth that!

No need to maintain a 1:500 ratio.

But!

They converted me to a fucking revshare program and now I've earned a fucking 12 bucks!


Who are scammers now??

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Old 11-24-2008, 07:01 PM   #2
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$130 Per Member Payouts
At Penthouse/Adult FriendFinder, we've decided to beat the market by offering our top payout tier to EVERYONE this month!
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Cams.com has also had its Per Order payouts increased to a whopping $130 per Sale! That means if someone fills up their webcam watching wallet with $20, you get paid $130!!



For these specials there are NO minimum traffic requirements and no special "promo" days. These numbers are offered to every affiliate on every day of October!

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*IF you post a FriendFinder Network banner in your winning post, then you will be awarded $75 instead of $50!* You can find our banners in the "Promo Tools" section of our Affiliate Area.

This contest thread CLOSES on October 31st at midnight, Pacific time.

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Old 11-24-2008, 07:05 PM   #4
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I hope you all see the proof...
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:06 PM   #5
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what was the response when you brought this to their attention?
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I always see these shady threads where AFF is mentioned over and over again.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:11 PM   #10
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what was the response when you brought this to their attention?
I didn't. Since they done shit, I've got pissed and took a look at their rules etc.
Then found something that could make me happy and posted at once

I have no idea, why they should do such a bullshit...

Wouldn't it be easier to earn money in a normal way?
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:12 PM   #11
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Also messaged elli with this thread's url, will see if she writes anything smart or not...
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LOL

Say it ain't so.

All of the shit you can read about them and you JUST NOT found out they were shady?

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I love these "I can't believe AFF fucked me" threads.

Pick a real dating site.
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Also messaged elli with this thread's url, will see if she writes anything smart or not...
Good Luck with that....

I myself promoted them for a while back in the begining, till I noticed signups disapearing from my acc.

1st time I let it go 2nd tme I just pulled them outa my sites and stopped promos completely on them.

Let em keep what I made thier not worth the time n bullshit...

But they sure as hell did not and wont ever get anything else from me ever again
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They converted me to a fucking revshare program and now I've earned a fucking 12 bucks!
Hey, 12 bucks aint nothing to sneeze at!!
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:27 PM   #15
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it's not about the money
They said I'll get 130$ doesn't matter to the traffic.

Then they just simply did a fuck.

They should use this text as their promo:
Promote us! Waste your traffic, time and money!
Make as little money with AFF as possible!

Sounds attractive, doesn't it?
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:28 PM   #16
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LOL

Say it ain't so.

All of the shit you can read about them and you JUST NOT found out they were shady?

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I love these "I can't believe AFF fucked me" threads.

Pick a real dating site.

the truth, they never learn
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:53 PM   #17
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.... ahh the lure of the thread "We are STILL paying $130" seems to work eh? ....

Seriously.... yer not the first ... and sadly not the last who will start threads like this...
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:02 AM   #19
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Some of these sponsors screw their customers, commit credit card fraud, use stolen content, advertise on illegal sites, and yet affiliates think they can trust them.

It's like dating a hooker and then being shocked when you find out she's sleeping with other guys.
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I was under the impression that PPS sales would only be converted to revshare if too many members subscribed to their cheapest memberships and it wouldn't be retroactive. What was the reason they gave you for converting it?
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ummm, maybe if you bothered to read the TOS you wouldn't have had this problem? Their terms of service has been the same since I started pushing them 4 years ago.
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I thought only those using the ppc program could be converted to revshare..
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thats why i stopped promoting them sometime back. good luck aff affiliates. lol
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I made $0.01 with AFF some days ago :D Now I am waiting to get my $103.01
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I thought only those using the ppc program could be converted to revshare..
This has been in their FAQ since the beginning of time.

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It is stated on our affiliate agreement that if your traffic produces less than 1 free signup in 20 visitors, or 1 paying membership in 25 free signups, your account may be converted retroactively to a "percentage payout" account. Affiliates not meeting these ratios will be converted at the end of each month. By taking these measures we ensure it will be a win-win for both parties involved.
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Hey, 12 bucks aint nothing to sneeze at!!
I agree with Mr. Pheer.
In this economy be happy with 12 bucks.
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This is the same company that said they had rented us a car that seats 7.. It only sat 5..

Myself and the Penthouse Pet of the Year had to ride in the TRUNK!
Shit you not!

Damn them!
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This has been in their FAQ since the beginning of time.
But they don't mention the Per Order program in the FAQ.

Additionally, there's this at the bottom of the Per Order stats page (and the percentage page too):
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I wonder why they only mention the pay per click program there...
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This is the same company that said they had rented us a car that seats 7.. It only sat 5..

Myself and the Penthouse Pet of the Year had to ride in the TRUNK!
Shit you not!

Damn them!

Yeah, and I took pics!

But I cant post them cause I was taking the pics with your camera

Damn, what a cramped ride that was. Cant believe they did that to us.
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I made another penny today... I should get a payout sometime by 2050 at this rate...
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but but but but AFF/Cams and Lars are TOP NOTCH STANDUP BROS!!!
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don't blame AFF, blame the affiliates that keep promoting them!
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It took you 20 directories to make one sale to AFF????

Maybe you need to go back and work on your little network and make your revshare 3 times the piss ant 130.00 you made sofar.
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I say Blame it on the Boogie!
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But they don't mention the Per Order program in the FAQ.

Additionally, there's this at the bottom of the Per Order stats page (and the percentage page too):

I wonder why they only mention the pay per click program there...
It doesn't have to because it says "per signup"
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I didn't. Since they done shit, I've got pissed and took a look at their rules etc.
Then found something that could make me happy and posted at once

I have no idea, why they should do such a bullshit...

Wouldn't it be easier to earn money in a normal way?
Hi Ramp
You've been here for two years and made over 2,000 posts and you sound like a newbie. Did you really think they can afford that promo and play it straight and pay for Tubes?

They were promising to pay $130 on every "$30" sign up.

I got lots of mates with Credit Cards and we could all earn $100 a sign up if they were playing it straight. Maybe I got the prices wrong but I'm sure everyone gets my drift.

Come on you're much brighter than that.
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I was under the impression that PPS sales would only be converted to revshare if too many members subscribed to their cheapest memberships and it wouldn't be retroactive. What was the reason they gave you for converting it?
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Let me explain the reason they convert the payments.

Someone signs up for $30.
They pay the guy who sent the sign up $130
They spend money on hosting, sites, running the company, advertising to get traffic, advertising to get affiliates, Tubes, promos at parties and all the other shit.

They will go bankrupt in a month if they pay those figures.

They have to pay you what they did to stay in business. But some people just don't get it do they.

In fact if you really want to get back at them just get all your mates to sign up so you stay under the ratios and then pocket the difference. You could print out flyers, hand them out on the street and pay people $50 for every sign up and come in under their ratios.

They have to pay you what they did.
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Revshare aint so bad. They've paid me close to $1 million on it so far.
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Let me explain the reason they convert the payments.

Someone signs up for $30.
They pay the guy who sent the sign up $130
They spend money on hosting, sites, running the company, advertising to get traffic, advertising to get affiliates, Tubes, promos at parties and all the other shit.

They will go bankrupt in a month if they pay those figures.

They have to pay you what they did to stay in business. But some people just don't get it do they.

In fact if you really want to get back at them just get all your mates to sign up so you stay under the ratios and then pocket the difference. You could print out flyers, hand them out on the street and pay people $50 for every sign up and come in under their ratios.

They have to pay you what they did.
All true but not making any sense in this thread since thats not what this is about. They advertise something they do not follow up on. They are having a promo, this is not about regular payouts. In that case you would be correct.
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All true but not making any sense in this thread since thats not what this is about. They advertise something they do not follow up on. They are having a promo, this is not about regular payouts. In that case you would be correct.
Once again my ironic humor lies over another head.

It's a symptom of a business partly made up of people will rip off anyone and anything.

The Adult Internet started by people who were flat bed screening magazines and stealing content to make money. Even when you mailed the thieves that they could buy a license they replied they don't have to while they can steal it.

Then they started to steal from each other and here we are 15 years on and they are still stealing from who ever they can.

If this industry had any morals it would not allow these types of adverts or promos unless it was made clear. But as we all know anyone will promote anything if there's a quick buck to be made and fuck tomorrow.

Will you promote only sites that play it straight or will you promote anyone to make a buck?
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Guys, it was all about their promo.
About their rules, don't try telling me they have that shit that I need to convet at 1:500 or so, it was their promo, they said to pay 130$ doesn't matter on the ratio.

Seems like AFF has some fans here
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It took you 20 directories to make one sale to AFF????

Maybe you need to go back and work on your little network and make your revshare 3 times the piss ant 130.00 you made sofar.
??? Huh?

I don't understand what those directories have to do with this...
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:22 AM   #45
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this sounds pretty fucked up
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:50 AM   #46
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ummm, maybe if you bothered to read the TOS you wouldn't have had this problem? Their terms of service has been the same since I started pushing them 4 years ago.
mike, have you read the whole post? What it has to do with the TOS and conversion rate, when the promo clearly states:

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For these specials there are NO minimum traffic requirements and no special "promo" days. These numbers are offered to every affiliate on every day of October!
I'm glad im not promoting AFF. They are shady company with shitty politics about warez, tubes and etc. They steal from both pockets of webmaster
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:42 AM   #47
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mikesinners works for aff maybe
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:01 AM   #48
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LOL

Say it ain't so.

All of the shit you can read about them and you JUST NOT found out they were shady?

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I love these "I can't believe AFF fucked me" threads.

Pick a real dating site.
Aff have practicly billions of reasons why should not to be promoted,yet people still promote it as crazy.I dont feel any smpathy for such people.But it seems brazzers want to take over aff position as shady sponsor number one
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:05 AM   #49
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Let me explain the reason they convert the payments.

Someone signs up for $30.
They pay the guy who sent the sign up $130
They spend money on hosting, sites, running the company, advertising to get traffic, advertising to get affiliates, Tubes, promos at parties and all the other shit.

They will go bankrupt in a month if they pay those figures.

Then they shouldn't offer the special. It was AFF who set the terms, not this affiliate.
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