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Old 11-11-2008, 03:43 PM   #1
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why AFF pisses me off

The one thing I really hate about AFF is that they reduce your percentage payout when your traffic drops by a certain amount

Since the start of this recession, I have had to cut back on many traffic buys that just don't make sense anymore

Of course this affects the amount of traffic I can send AFF.

I only buy premium search engine traffic and the volumes are low but the quality is (or was) very high.

So here I am trying to promote my sponsor, and they kick me in the nuts by reducing my percentage just because I cant convert traffic as well as I used to be able

Just sux
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:45 PM   #2
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:46 PM   #3
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honestly, I've had better luck with other programs over AFF just my 2 cents
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I thought the percentage goes up if you send more traffic / profiles. So its not really a decrease in percentage, just no longer getting the bonus rate?

Besides, I think that percentage is just on the initial sale, not the recurring, right?
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Keep HookUP.com in mind... Getting very close on our affiliate program... converting great! AFF is certainly impressive, no question about it... however, the chance of someone hitting your paid ad, and then hitting someone elses paid ad, or affiliate link 5 seconds later is probably pretty high.
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honestly, I've had better luck with other programs over AFF just my 2 cents
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I thought the percentage goes up if you send more traffic / profiles. So its not really a decrease in percentage, just no longer getting the bonus rate?

Besides, I think that percentage is just on the initial sale, not the recurring, right?
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gday WG

Yes the percentage is on the recurring, and it is shown as a bonus if you keep traffic up

But keeping the same amount of traffic up when you buy traffic (like I do) in these conditions is certainly making me consider dumping AFF

I know I am just small fry to them, but I wonder how many other people are in my shoes
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gday WG

Yes the percentage is on the recurring, and it is shown as a bonus if you keep traffic up

But keeping the same amount of traffic up when you buy traffic (like I do) in these conditions is certainly making me consider dumping AFF

I know I am just small fry to them, but I wonder how many other people are in my shoes
The percentage on recurring isn't fixed? I thought it was just the inital that goes up and down based on traffic. I didn't realize the recurring was variable too.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:58 PM   #13
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Have you just tried to ask your affiliate manager? Some times all it takes is an email... "Hey I'm having a hard time right now... Things are tight... Any chance you can help out with my commission?" You might be surprised.
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The one thing I really hate about AFF is that they reduce your percentage payout when your traffic drops by a certain amount

Since the start of this recession, I have had to cut back on many traffic buys that just don't make sense anymore

Of course this affects the amount of traffic I can send AFF.

I only buy premium search engine traffic and the volumes are low but the quality is (or was) very high.

So here I am trying to promote my sponsor, and they kick me in the nuts by reducing my percentage just because I cant convert traffic as well as I used to be able

Just sux
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Should have known they are douchebags from the beginning.
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Dan, have you tried talking to your affiliate manager about it? This might be something he or she can help you with.
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HA HA! You promote AFF.
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Dan, take some time to check us out & feel free to get in touch with me... I will help you to the best of my abilities.
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The one thing I really hate about AFF is that they reduce your percentage payout when your traffic drops by a certain amount

Since the start of this recession, I have had to cut back on many traffic buys that just don't make sense anymore

Of course this affects the amount of traffic I can send AFF.

I only buy premium search engine traffic and the volumes are low but the quality is (or was) very high.

So here I am trying to promote my sponsor, and they kick me in the nuts by reducing my percentage just because I cant convert traffic as well as I used to be able

Just sux
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Dan...hit me up. I can work out something with you.
We have a couple of sales tools we are launching within the next month or so which should really help boost ales--and in turn, more commission to you!
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Can't be too hard to find 100 uniques/day somewhere to keep your recurring ticking. The tiers on initial orders are a little harder to work with. But as suggested you may then consider the PPS.
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The one thing I really hate about AFF is that they reduce your percentage payout when your traffic drops by a certain amount

Since the start of this recession, I have had to cut back on many traffic buys that just don't make sense anymore

Of course this affects the amount of traffic I can send AFF.

I only buy premium search engine traffic and the volumes are low but the quality is (or was) very high.

So here I am trying to promote my sponsor, and they kick me in the nuts by reducing my percentage just because I cant convert traffic as well as I used to be able

Just sux
Hey Dan you ever considered Ulust.com?
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Dan...hit me up. I can work out something with you.
We have a couple of sales tools we are launching within the next month or so which should really help boost ales--and in turn, more commission to you!
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Can't be too hard to find 100 uniques/day somewhere to keep your recurring ticking. The tiers on initial orders are a little harder to work with. But as suggested you may then consider the PPS.
I used to have a webmaster buy nocookie traffic off me to prop up his AFF click levels.
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I tried AFF running it in spots that were available (which is rare... but i needed to fill it with something) so I thought I'd try it out... now I don't know what the issue is, but not ONE FREE JOIN after 1,200 clicked hits to the site.

This is CLICKED thumb traffic, no skim... you have got to be kidding me! Never again, don't bother replying AFF, i'm out. Seriously.
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Dan, have you tried talking to your affiliate manager about it? This might be something he or she can help you with.
thanks for the idea Elli, but previous emails to CS at AFF have gone unanswered, and I am not expecting that to change
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I used to have a webmaster buy nocookie traffic off me to prop up his AFF click levels.
OMG - that is sooo lame that a webmaster has to resort to doing that just to make a buck with a sponsor

I put some more traffic at AFF, but the $$$ I used to make with them just isn't there anymore
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thanks for the idea Elli, but previous emails to CS at AFF have gone unanswered, and I am not expecting that to change
I'm sorry to hear your emails haven't been replied to in a timely manner, Dan. I'll pass this message along.
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The Evil Dan I remember is a stand-up, generous, intelligent guy with integrity...
but people like that don't send to AFF.
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The Evil Dan I remember is a stand-up, generous, intelligent guy with integrity...
but people like that don't send to AFF.
Thanks for the Props mate ;-)

Wish I owned a proggy to take advantage - lol

but seriously - I am looking at finding a new dating sponsor

Can anyone recommend a really stand up dating sponsor (personal recommendations and not proggy owners please)
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The percentage on recurring isn't fixed? I thought it was just the inital that goes up and down based on traffic. I didn't realize the recurring was variable too.
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