Our press is to concerned with picking out a dog for the new pres and bashing Palin into the ground. Smoke and mirrors. Missiles being put into position are not going to trump the ratings.:2 cents:

surprised at how well Canada can handle herself.

They all say they are not going to fuck around. Actions speak louder than words. :2 cents:

Imagine if Russia planned to build an anti-missile system in Mexico sitting right across from the USA border. We would have already attacked them.

Remember when they were sending missiles to Cuba and we almost went to war with them? They invaded our personal space and we found it to be a threat, the same as they are threatened now because we are in their personal space putting up an anti-missile system that can strike down THEIR missiles.

I'm not sure why the USA thinks it can throw it's cock around the world and bully everyone around.

My dear friend, you have much to learn about your country if you rely on American press to tell you the truth. They are probably just looking for a way to spin the story before they tell it to you.

If you want the real truth on international events, you need to turn off your American media and look outside of your country for true news. Look at how the rest of the world reports the news and you will get a better idea of what's really going on.

Though it started as a whack job of a media outlet, Al Jeezera is now a hard hitting news source that trumps CNN or FOX by a long shot. They tell all sided to a story and often break news before most US outlets do. Check them out.

We are gong to have to agree to agree on this. The Russians don't have much choice but to respond to such an aggressive move from the US. I think the US is making the correct move to place the missiles (to counteract Iran), but the Russians don't have much choice but to respond or else look helpless. Putin certainly knows this. Of course Obama is so far out of his league when it comes to a geopolitical chess match with Putin that it would be funny if it was not so dangerous. :helpme

It is all an illusion.

Thank you for playing along.

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think the anti missile system is for defence against Iran. Iran's best missle can barley reach eastern europe.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ab-3_Range.jpg

You make a good point that Iran currently poses no threat to Europe. The missile defense system is primarily symbolic as an expression of US power in the region. But it would also be naive to assume the Iranians are standing still and are not developing a longer range ballistic missile along with their nuclear program. The Iranians have long stated their intention to have long range nuclear ballistic missile capability and they are doing everything they can to archive that as quickly as possible. Only the most naive apologist or a propagandist would try to suggest otherwise (which one are you Buzzy?).

At the same time it is perfectly understandable how an expression of US power in Poland would upset the Russians. Putin has no choice but to make some kind of symbolic response.

Totally. It's not like Obama looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul or anything.

Can you blame the Iranians for wanting to advance their weaponary when they are weekly threatened by not only Israel but the USA also of a blitz on their country. Regardless what Ahmadinejad said about wiping the Israeli regime off the map, it dosen't add up to the countless times that the USA and Israel have threatened it.

The only reason the Zionist hawks are calling for Iran to be bombed is because they are a growing power, and soon enough they will be a threat to Israels military domination over the region, Israel can't stand the fact of not being the only total power in the region.

But the problem is...i think the Israelis have left it too late this time. An Attack on Iran now, rather than 6 years ago would equal devistating consequences for Israel and even it's existance. But then again this is the price you have to pay if you want an illegally manufactured expansionist state on someone elses land. Dog eat dog.

Dumbass thinking.

You guys kill me sometimes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7717669.stm

Obama 'to honour' missile plans

Change :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I guess that news will please Republicans. He's showing he's not "weak".

time for ww3

Of course I don't blame the Iranians for wanting to have nuclear weapons and long range missile delivery systems. It would vastly increase their power in the region and their bargaining power worldwide. At the same time I don't blame the US, the Israelis and the Saudis from wanting to stop them. The US is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Iraq as we speak. The Israelis have been fighting a proxy war with Iran (through Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad) for a very long time. The Saudi leadership fears Iranian and Shia domination in the region. They all have very good reasons to fear Iran going nuclear.

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc. along with many others who feel the same. Obviously Iran going nuclear will be a huge victory (both politically and strategically) for militant Islam while at the same time represent a huge setback for the Western interests which are are battling against it. Neither side has a monopoly on righteousness. In a battle for survival people must pick sides. I know what side I am on. You know what side you are on.

I disagree. It's far from being black and white as you portray it. I support justice, so if i feel that someone is being dealt with unjustly i will support them. The problem i see with Israel calling for Iran to stop it's (non-existant) nuclear problem is that Israel has hundreds of nukes of its own.

Stop making sense in a thread full and dedicated to non-sense :winkwink::1orglaugh

I am not saying it is black and white at all. That is the whole point. There are valid points on both sides. It is you who claims one side is black and the other white. It is you who can only see "right and wrong" rather than competing interests battling for power, resources and influence. The are plenty of legitimate grievances on both sides of all conflicts. It is only in the movies or the mind of a child that life gets divided up between "good and evil" or "victims and oppressors". In the real world there is usually plenty of evil on both sides.

That's black and white cykoe. Up and down, left and right, tea or coffee, Iran and Israel. :winkwink: