Shouldnt it be easy to get rid of tubes? - GoFuckYourself.com

tnaindex · 11-04-2008, 08:19 PM

First off im talking about tubes that are using stolen content.

From what I have heard they are using the same excuse as youtube "User generated content" How in the hell can a porn site run like that while still being able to produce 2257 documentation? To do so legally, at the very least every clip would need to be approved by an admin after seeing the 2257 doc's.

If we contact the feds and ask them to investigate them on suspicion of child pornography and they are unable to produce 2257 documentation, at the very least it will hopefully get the sites shut down.

If they then turn around and say that they do have evidence that every performer on the site is over 18 then it will prove that they have knowledge of every movie on the site and any good trial lawyer can use that as proof of copyright infringement. Probably best dealt with by a class action by the content producers.

What do you lot think?

d-null · 11-04-2008, 08:26 PM

not a lawyer, but perhaps their lawyers could argue that they are just a filehost and that the onus for documentation falls on the uploaders?

just a guess, but as an example, I don't think google could ever be required to have 2257 documentation even though their image search is full of porn

tnaindex · 11-04-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

not a lawyer, but perhaps their lawyers could argue that they are just a filehost and that the onus for documentation falls on the uploaders?

just a guess, but as an example, I don't think google could ever be required to have 2257 documentation even though their image search is full of porn

Yes that is a grey area but that not exactly what I meant (poor explanation on my part)

The users who supposedly produced and uploaded the "user generated content" will defiantly need to be able to produce the 2257 documentation. If we assume that the owner of the site is the one stealing and uploading the movies.

Then that means that he would be in a legal catch 22 situation.

Admit to not knowing where the records can be found and risk being charged as a sex offender.

Or he could provide them the 2257 url of the affiliate program that he stole the content from and be charged with copyright infringement.

Barefootsies · 11-04-2008, 08:57 PM

Honestly, I am tired of writing on this subject in detail, so here are the cliff notes.

Yes. It is that simple to get content removed without bring in FBI. But that is a nice bonus.

Yes. Many content providers who actually do enforce copyright, and do not just make big threats at shows, and on message boards manage to get our material removed in timely fashion, and not have it reposted.

It is not hard. People are just lazy, or have other agendas behind the scenes.

11-04-2008, 08:19 PM	#1
tnaindex Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 26	Shouldnt it be easy to get rid of tubes? First off im talking about tubes that are using stolen content. From what I have heard they are using the same excuse as youtube "User generated content" How in the hell can a porn site run like that while still being able to produce 2257 documentation? To do so legally, at the very least every clip would need to be approved by an admin after seeing the 2257 doc's. If we contact the feds and ask them to investigate them on suspicion of child pornography and they are unable to produce 2257 documentation, at the very least it will hopefully get the sites shut down. If they then turn around and say that they do have evidence that every performer on the site is over 18 then it will prove that they have knowledge of every movie on the site and any good trial lawyer can use that as proof of copyright infringement. Probably best dealt with by a class action by the content producers. What do you lot think?

11-04-2008, 08:26 PM	#2
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	not a lawyer, but perhaps their lawyers could argue that they are just a filehost and that the onus for documentation falls on the uploaders? just a guess, but as an example, I don't think google could ever be required to have 2257 documentation even though their image search is full of porn __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

11-04-2008, 08:57 PM	#4
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