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EXPORT · 10-04-2008, 11:50 AM

So you all are sure about this carbon dating thingy

because some nerds (who propbably buy your porn) tell you?

Mans perception is just too small to fully understand
what God had in mind.

You really belive you crawled out of the water and grew legs?

and then some grew wings and started to fly?

All who might slam me about this...think back in your post history...

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

EXPORT · 10-04-2008, 11:56 AM

...........hi

k0nr4d · 10-04-2008, 12:05 PM

Sorry, we're all godless sinners here man.

RedShoe · 10-04-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

I've never said that.

hjnet · 10-04-2008, 12:07 PM

I fucked Dino last night

Now see Sig....

After Shock Media · 10-04-2008, 12:25 PM

Fine I will go a round.
Are you kidding me? And your real support for the issue is the use of the word pray or possibly even saying oh god or maybe even god damn it?

Why am I sure about carbon dating or even more simple geology that proves we were not here at the same time or even remotely near the time of the dinosaurs? Because I understand how the shit works. Not to mention I am very into geology and rocks. Sediment and rock layers combined with many other factors just prove without a logical doubt of these truths.

Your over simplified versions of evolution are also quirky and highly off. Yes at some point long long after basic microbes and such ruled the oceans, long after other fish life did as well. Eventually some started in on moving to land. The would eventually lead to be some of the first reptile type creatures. Pass a lot more time and some of these crawled back into the sea. Some had branched out to no longer be cold blooded, and so forth. Your should be aware of the story. Large reptiles pretty much ruled the roost. Some started the very basics of flight but it was not as birds do today. Insert big disaster such as a comet as most believe that hit near present day Mexico. Big reptiles die off in this period and is where they stop in the geological record. Small mammals that had the ability to burrow and such happened to be of the 5% or so of life that made it past the disaster. They would evolve too. Add assorted climate changes, high co2 and/or high oxygen and you get large animals again this time mammals. Insert more climate change and less food supplies and you see the beginning of the fall of large animals. You would have been seeing primates and eventually early humans. Different branches and ancestors and you get our ancestors and close relatives as far back as 160,000 years ago or so going by fossil record.

Now if I was to believe in god as a creator etc. Perhaps I would be open to think that maybe the whole thing was gods plan, even the way evolution worked, and how the universe was formed. I just know I would never base my beliefs on the natural world based on a book written by people, a book that got many others killed for even thinking the Earth revolved around the Sun.

Which by the way would also still be a belief of those that take the bible literally, the same that think the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

grumpy · 10-04-2008, 12:31 PM

drugs are bad

qxm · 10-04-2008, 01:07 PM

The MAIN Issue here is that scientists and ... here I say... even philosophers... in one way or another try to explain our "insignificant existence" .... it is because of people who think and act logically that we are no longer hunting "witches" (which was a clear plot to eliminate capable people or those who opposed the mains stream religion at the time) ... or dying of diseases that are treatable .....

I grew up in a 100% catholic house and my dad is a 110% religious person (not catholic, protestant..).... and after being bombarded all my life with religious beliefs I made my own conclusions based on all their information I received and after analyzing how they act...

Having said that, I do believe that there are still things that are far too great to even try to explain with our current knowledge....... but just because some things are difficult to explain I will NOT accept answers such as ... "You just have to believe in G-d" .... neither will I understand the the thoughts of people who let their relatives die because their religion won't allow them to perform simple blood transfusions ... IMHO ... it is just plain bullshit (no offense to anyone here)

Why is it that so many people hate science and prefer religion? ... simply put... Science attempts to explain what most people refer to as *G-d* ... and If the ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, the knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them .. this is something almost every person on this planet can not bear the thought of... because they need something to believe in ....

Yes, there are and will be things that are too hard to explain and people shouldn't loose their faith and beliefs in a supreme being because ultimately it is such array concepts/principles that hold entire societies/countries together (USA being one of them)... not to mention people's mental sanity depends on it..... that much I can acknowledge .... However, I will ALWAYS have a hard time when people try to explain the creation of the universe in "magic terms", I will always have a problem with people who expect me to believe "culture/tradition/superstition" over math and science... because after all science offers better and more rational explanations to things ..compared to religions .....

C14 Carbon dating is not perfect (I know that a shoe covered with lava can turn out to be millions of years old.. which is obviously a flaw with C14) but so far people who try to disprove carbon dating as a valid method HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SHOW FOR it ........ Only until when a religious person offers me intelligent explanations that don't rely on "believe me" or "magic tricks - sort to speak" will I consider believing something... and even then.. it is in my nature to question everything ....... If that makes me a sinner then G-d forgive me....

OK GFY... Blast me!

uno · 10-04-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe

I've never said that.

Me neither.

qxm · 10-04-2008, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno

Me neither.

+2..............

DarkJedi · 10-04-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

I neither.

Fixed it for you.

CurrentlySober · 10-04-2008, 01:35 PM

xmas13 · 10-04-2008, 01:38 PM

tony286 · 10-04-2008, 01:52 PM

If man and dinosaurs were around at the same time. Then man would of lost out because back then we wouldn't of been even close to the top of the food chain. We would of been easy to catch and hurt food.

Darkland · 10-04-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

So you all are sure about this carbon dating thingy.
because some nerds (who propbably buy your porn) tell you?

Makes more sense than you nutters who think the world is only 4,000 years old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

Mans perception is just too small to fully understand
what God had in mind.

If you don't know either then I am losing your point. Apparently you got some miraculous insight though right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

You really belive you crawled out of the water and grew legs?

and then some grew wings and started to fly?

Regardless of how we evolved if you are one of these people who think "God" put dinosaur bones into the ground to mislead non-believers you are retarded. It is sad that people, in this day and age, are still this archaic and dumb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

All who might slam me about this...think back in your post history...

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

Per usual for the religious fanatic, they believe they own the market on spirituality. Praying doesn't start nor end with people who ONLY believe in a God and a Jesus. But to them all those other countries with their own origins of religion or dieties got to be wrong and will burnm in hell right? Talk about arrogant. Well guess what? Cultures were "praying" long before God and Jesus came on the scene.

Ohhh... But wait, the earth is really only 4,000 years old. Right? How convenient for you.

jollyperv · 10-04-2008, 02:24 PM

Hail Satan

gornyhuy · 10-04-2008, 05:40 PM

I am God.
So are you.
We are one. We are everything.
and we are nothing.

gornyhuy · 10-04-2008, 05:43 PM

When someone asks me who they are or what God is, I smile inside and whisper to the Light: "There you go again pretending."
Adyashanti

gornyhuy · 10-04-2008, 05:45 PM

All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and hold this most minute solar system of the atom together...We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

Max Planck (Nobel Prize winner, in a lecture in Florence, Italy)

gornyhuy · 10-04-2008, 05:46 PM

When I see I am nothing,
that is wisdom.
When I see I am everything,
that is love.
And between these two,
my life flows."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

donkevlar · 10-04-2008, 05:50 PM

I watched some christian propaganda (for kids!) the other day. The talk was about dinosaurs.

HIS theory was that dinosaurs did exist at the same time as humans and pointed out cultures in history that had recorded them. IE: Dragons.

The Duck · 10-04-2008, 05:56 PM

Who the fuck is god.

marketsmart · 10-04-2008, 06:02 PM

god made earth and the universe and then he put sweet little baby jesus here and the jews killed him...

then god got mad and the paparazzis killed a lot of jews...

then god made me and i will be the next jesus and kill all of you sinners..

Yngwie · 10-04-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkland

Makes more sense than you nutters who think the world is only 4,000 years old.

If you don't know either then I am losing your point. Apparently you got some miraculous insight though right?

Regardless of how we evolved if you are one of these people who think "God" put dinosaur bones into the ground to mislead non-believers you are retarded. It is sad that people, in this day and age, are still this archaic and dumb.

Per usual for the religious fanatic, they believe they own the market on spirituality. Praying doesn't start nor end with people who ONLY believe in a God and a Jesus. But to them all those other countries with their own origins of religion or dieties got to be wrong and will burnm in hell right? Talk about arrogant. Well guess what? Cultures were "praying" long before God and Jesus came on the scene.

Ohhh... But wait, the earth is really only 4,000 years old. Right? How convenient for you.

;)

Zebra · 10-04-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

Maybe said they are in my thoughts, but never in my prayers.

RedShoe · 10-04-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

;)

woj · 10-04-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner

papill0n · 10-04-2008, 07:15 PM

Carbon 14 dating is completely irreverent when it comes to dinosaurs.

Radio isotopes is where its at.

qxm · 10-04-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

;)

yeap... that is it .. in a nutshell....

BusterBunny · 10-04-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner

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