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EXPORT 10-04-2008 11:50 AM

Question about carbon dating and riding about on Dinosaurs
 
So you all are sure about this carbon dating thingy

because some nerds (who propbably buy your porn) tell you?

Mans perception is just too small to fully understand
what God had in mind.

You really belive you crawled out of the water and grew legs?

and then some grew wings and started to fly?

All who might slam me about this...think back in your post history...

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

EXPORT 10-04-2008 11:56 AM

...........hi

k0nr4d 10-04-2008 12:05 PM

Sorry, we're all godless sinners here man.

RedShoe 10-04-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)
how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?


I've never said that.

hjnet 10-04-2008 12:07 PM

I fucked Dino last night
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Now see Sig....

After Shock Media 10-04-2008 12:25 PM

Fine I will go a round.
Are you kidding me? And your real support for the issue is the use of the word pray or possibly even saying oh god or maybe even god damn it?

Why am I sure about carbon dating or even more simple geology that proves we were not here at the same time or even remotely near the time of the dinosaurs? Because I understand how the shit works. Not to mention I am very into geology and rocks. Sediment and rock layers combined with many other factors just prove without a logical doubt of these truths.

Your over simplified versions of evolution are also quirky and highly off. Yes at some point long long after basic microbes and such ruled the oceans, long after other fish life did as well. Eventually some started in on moving to land. The would eventually lead to be some of the first reptile type creatures. Pass a lot more time and some of these crawled back into the sea. Some had branched out to no longer be cold blooded, and so forth. Your should be aware of the story. Large reptiles pretty much ruled the roost. Some started the very basics of flight but it was not as birds do today. Insert big disaster such as a comet as most believe that hit near present day Mexico. Big reptiles die off in this period and is where they stop in the geological record. Small mammals that had the ability to burrow and such happened to be of the 5% or so of life that made it past the disaster. They would evolve too. Add assorted climate changes, high co2 and/or high oxygen and you get large animals again this time mammals. Insert more climate change and less food supplies and you see the beginning of the fall of large animals. You would have been seeing primates and eventually early humans. Different branches and ancestors and you get our ancestors and close relatives as far back as 160,000 years ago or so going by fossil record.

Now if I was to believe in god as a creator etc. Perhaps I would be open to think that maybe the whole thing was gods plan, even the way evolution worked, and how the universe was formed. I just know I would never base my beliefs on the natural world based on a book written by people, a book that got many others killed for even thinking the Earth revolved around the Sun.

Which by the way would also still be a belief of those that take the bible literally, the same that think the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

grumpy 10-04-2008 12:31 PM

drugs are bad

qxm 10-04-2008 01:07 PM

The MAIN Issue here is that scientists and ... here I say... even philosophers... in one way or another try to explain our "insignificant existence" .... it is because of people who think and act logically that we are no longer hunting "witches" (which was a clear plot to eliminate capable people or those who opposed the mains stream religion at the time) ... or dying of diseases that are treatable .....

I grew up in a 100% catholic house and my dad is a 110% religious person (not catholic, protestant..).... and after being bombarded all my life with religious beliefs I made my own conclusions based on all their information I received and after analyzing how they act...

Having said that, I do believe that there are still things that are far too great to even try to explain with our current knowledge....... but just because some things are difficult to explain I will NOT accept answers such as ... "You just have to believe in G-d" .... neither will I understand the the thoughts of people who let their relatives die because their religion won't allow them to perform simple blood transfusions ... IMHO ... it is just plain bullshit (no offense to anyone here)

Why is it that so many people hate science and prefer religion? ... simply put... Science attempts to explain what most people refer to as *G-d* ... and If the ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, the knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them .. this is something almost every person on this planet can not bear the thought of... because they need something to believe in ....

Yes, there are and will be things that are too hard to explain and people shouldn't loose their faith and beliefs in a supreme being because ultimately it is such array concepts/principles that hold entire societies/countries together (USA being one of them)... not to mention people's mental sanity depends on it..... that much I can acknowledge .... However, I will ALWAYS have a hard time when people try to explain the creation of the universe in "magic terms", I will always have a problem with people who expect me to believe "culture/tradition/superstition" over math and science... because after all science offers better and more rational explanations to things ..compared to religions .....

C14 Carbon dating is not perfect (I know that a shoe covered with lava can turn out to be millions of years old.. which is obviously a flaw with C14) but so far people who try to disprove carbon dating as a valid method HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SHOW FOR it ........ Only until when a religious person offers me intelligent explanations that don't rely on "believe me" or "magic tricks - sort to speak" will I consider believing something... and even then.. it is in my nature to question everything ....... If that makes me a sinner then G-d forgive me....

OK GFY... Blast me!

uno 10-04-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 14853882)
I've never said that.

Me neither.

qxm 10-04-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 14853997)
Me neither.

+2..............

DarkJedi 10-04-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 14853997)
I neither.

Fixed it for you.

CurrentlySober 10-04-2008 01:35 PM

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xmas13 10-04-2008 01:38 PM

http://www.linternaute.com/sortir/ci...assic-park.jpg

tony286 10-04-2008 01:52 PM

If man and dinosaurs were around at the same time. Then man would of lost out because back then we wouldn't of been even close to the top of the food chain. We would of been easy to catch and hurt food.

Darkland 10-04-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)
So you all are sure about this carbon dating thingy.
because some nerds (who propbably buy your porn) tell you?

Makes more sense than you nutters who think the world is only 4,000 years old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)
Mans perception is just too small to fully understand
what God had in mind.

If you don't know either then I am losing your point. Apparently you got some miraculous insight though right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)
You really belive you crawled out of the water and grew legs?

and then some grew wings and started to fly?

Regardless of how we evolved if you are one of these people who think "God" put dinosaur bones into the ground to mislead non-believers you are retarded. It is sad that people, in this day and age, are still this archaic and dumb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)
All who might slam me about this...think back in your post history...

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

Per usual for the religious fanatic, they believe they own the market on spirituality. Praying doesn't start nor end with people who ONLY believe in a God and a Jesus. But to them all those other countries with their own origins of religion or dieties got to be wrong and will burnm in hell right? Talk about arrogant. Well guess what? Cultures were "praying" long before God and Jesus came on the scene.

Ohhh... But wait, the earth is really only 4,000 years old. Right? How convenient for you.

jollyperv 10-04-2008 02:24 PM

Hail Satan

gornyhuy 10-04-2008 05:40 PM

I am God.
So are you.
We are one. We are everything.
and we are nothing.

gornyhuy 10-04-2008 05:43 PM

When someone asks me who they are or what God is, I smile inside and whisper to the Light: "There you go again pretending."
Adyashanti

gornyhuy 10-04-2008 05:45 PM

All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and hold this most minute solar system of the atom together...We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

Max Planck (Nobel Prize winner, in a lecture in Florence, Italy)

gornyhuy 10-04-2008 05:46 PM

When I see I am nothing,
that is wisdom.
When I see I am everything,
that is love.
And between these two,
my life flows."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

donkevlar 10-04-2008 05:50 PM

I watched some christian propaganda (for kids!) the other day. The talk was about dinosaurs.

HIS theory was that dinosaurs did exist at the same time as humans and pointed out cultures in history that had recorded them. IE: Dragons.

The Duck 10-04-2008 05:56 PM

Who the fuck is god.

marketsmart 10-04-2008 06:02 PM

god made earth and the universe and then he put sweet little baby jesus here and the jews killed him...

then god got mad and the paparazzis killed a lot of jews...

then god made me and i will be the next jesus and kill all of you sinners..

Yngwie 10-04-2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 14854161)
Makes more sense than you nutters who think the world is only 4,000 years old.


If you don't know either then I am losing your point. Apparently you got some miraculous insight though right?


Regardless of how we evolved if you are one of these people who think "God" put dinosaur bones into the ground to mislead non-believers you are retarded. It is sad that people, in this day and age, are still this archaic and dumb.


Per usual for the religious fanatic, they believe they own the market on spirituality. Praying doesn't start nor end with people who ONLY believe in a God and a Jesus. But to them all those other countries with their own origins of religion or dieties got to be wrong and will burnm in hell right? Talk about arrogant. Well guess what? Cultures were "praying" long before God and Jesus came on the scene.

Ohhh... But wait, the earth is really only 4,000 years old. Right? How convenient for you.


;)
http://www.seductiveteengirls.com/sciencevsreligion.jpg

Zebra 10-04-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXPORT (Post 14853846)

how many times have you said "I will pray for you tonight" or "you are in my prayers"

who you praying to?

Maybe said they are in my thoughts, but never in my prayers.

RedShoe 10-04-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 14854920)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

woj 10-04-2008 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14854075)

:1orglaugh

papill0n 10-04-2008 07:15 PM

Carbon 14 dating is completely irreverent when it comes to dinosaurs.

Radio isotopes is where its at.

qxm 10-04-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 14854920)

yeap... that is it .. in a nutshell....

BusterBunny 10-04-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14854075)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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