Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 14856435)

It's not about regret. When regret's the only issue, I fully agree that the model will just have to deal with it.

It's not about rough or extreme sex either. There are people shooting much more extreme things that I have no problem with at all.

To me, the problem with Max's content isn't the way the scenes look. The problem is that whenever there's a story going around about a model who totally got destroyed in a scene without any idea of what to expect, there's a good chance that it was a Max Hardcore scene. Whenever there's talk of a model considering filing charges against a porn shooter, again, a good chance it was a Max Hardcore scene.

As a producer, you have a moral obligation to deal responsibly with the people working for you. That means prepping the models well, assessing beforehand whether a model is up to the task, and pausing shooting if there's a strong indication that there's a problem.

There are many extreme BDSM producers with excellent reputations when it comes to this, so the problem isn't the nature of the content.

To anyone looking objectively at the matter, it should be obvious that Max does not take proper steps in prepping and guiding his models.



Actually, my analogy has a lot to do with this. It's about not properly informing and preparing actors before the shoot. The fact that an actor is an adult does not absolve the producer from all responsibility for what happens.

As for government interference, I'd much prefer if the industry were to regulate itself better. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14857402)

I wasnt talking about max I was talking about common operating practices.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 14857684)

Common operating practices for what?

Apologies if this is totally obvious. Like I said, I'm not very familiar with mainstream Porn Valley video, but I thought Extreme Associates was, ya know, a really extreme and uncommon example.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14857711)

Things that happen to models in adult. Girl is told its a boy girl and when she shows up there are 3 guys there or anal or interracial or more extreme then was presented etc. The model says that's not what Im here for. Then a show is put on.She is told I thought you really wanted to work in adult you are screwing everything up.You are going to have a very hard time working in adult with this attitude.She is new doesn't know, needs money or was told about the great career she is going to have. So she does it. I have a friend her first scene was anal she said it hurts they said keep going its almost done and didnt stop. she had to go to the hospital afterwards. Working with models especially those who also go to la for shoots. I have heard tons of horrors stories.

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14857850)

:offtopic




If a situation like that comes up, there is this fabulous word that was invented just for times like that. It's called "No" and works just dandy. Can't say I've ever seen 3 guys in a Max hardcore shoot though. Heck, can't say there's more than one. But we can continue off the topic more and more.


Stating that an anal scene might/could/probably hurt is like saying the sky is blue. It's obvious, but with many people either ignorant or desensitized to how porn is actually made I wouldn't expect less. This is also why performers are compensated accordingly. Why else would a person make as much in a few hours as they might make in a month?


It's a physical job that is based on athletics and looks, and they have a viable talent/commodity.



BACK ON TOPIC
Max Hardcore was not in trouble for any of the above. Let's stick with the facts and say everyone in the movies were completely happy to perform in them.




What then?




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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14857901)

Once again I wasnt talking about max and I was answering the post that everyone knows whats going to happen before they show up to a shoot.