Articulating it via wrong facts. Yes thanks for that...

50 sentences..

thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.

I hope time passes easily for Max.

If he decides to stay in the industry when he gets out, I hope he doesn't repeat his past mistakes.

He really is a talented guy underneath all that rough reputation.

his domains have been "forfeited"

...the end of max hardcore career?

i dono... but

wish him all the best though

we all deserve 2nd chances

met the guy once... lil on the weird side but wtf isnt this days and whos to judge?



doubt he will get out sooner then 4 yrs or be back in the biz

time to retire :(

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why do you vote on neo cons again? :uhoh

Well, Sticky sees this case without partisanship. I think it is very mature of him, and if more people could see issue per issue, the usa would be much better off...

I think sticky is brainwashed.

Im a very liberal conservative hehe. There are a lot of us. We aren't independent, and we aren't libertarian. We are different.

If brainwashing worked on me I would hate porn, weed, and prostitution. I love them hehe.

Where? Source? Link?

interesting

Will he serve his time in the state of Florida or in the state of California?....(since he is a California resident.) I guess he will serve his time in Florida since that was where the trial took place.

Mr. Max Hardcore meet Bubba.

Personally I don't like this type of movies but this is some serious shit.

Again a new frontier defined by US justice / gov.

I wish him all the best.

someday, i will convince you to become an independent... you are about 20% there...

Honestly, if I was Max I would have moved to someplace in Europe a long time ago, given up my American citizenship and worked the way I wanted to. I mean, if he was THAT hell bent on shooting THAT type of content, he knew better than to do it from the former USA.

He wanted to buck the system and now the system bucked back.

So if you AGREE to be killed, I pay you for it and then kill you, its all good? Just because you agreed?

You need a brain to get brainwashed.

That's extreme.

I'm pretty sure all of Max's girls knew what they were getting into before they came to shoot and were paid well for it. If not and he just surprised them with all of that shit, then hang his hillbilly ass, but I don't think it went down that way.

If a girl has to say she had her first sex at the age of 3, doesn't matter if she agreed or not.

I read the headline and thought.. hrmm, how horrible.. wtf is wrong with this country?! That's way too much time for someone that's just making a few porn movies. Then when you get down to the facts of the case.. wow, that's really not enough time at all. This sicko is getting his jollies and creating a whole new feast for all the creeps out there that can't find enough crap to feed their sick brains. There is far too much violence in our culture today, including mainstream media. Now they should go after the losers that bought this trash.

You are a fucking idiot.


Because YOU don't like or enjoy something (MADE WITH CONSENTING ADULTS) it's wrong?



Turn in your GFY card and get the fuck out of here.

FYI, someone is signup up to programs using the web url myboringlife.com and trying to fraud programs.

shit he is going to be with enron type fools...they are the ones that should be afraid this is max hardcore after all:pimp

You lack common sense.

The problem many people have with this is exactly that from what is known, many of the girls didn't consent to what they actually got.

Compare it to a mainstream actor who gets a role for a fistfight in a movie and is told that it "can be a bit rough". If he comes on the set, finds Kimbo there and gets beaten to a pulp while yelling for Kimbo to stop, a line gets crossed.

But he got paid for it - that makes it alright!

You are 100% right, when I first heard about this guy being sent to prison I thought it was fucked up. Then I checked some of his movies and I'm wishing he gt more time.

btw, it's really fucked up that a lot of people at this board feel that as soon as a girl signs up for porn and takes the money all her rights fly out the window and she can be abused, beaten and raped.

I hope the FBI/police goes trhough his members list and starts identifying the fuckers that enjoy this filth

Max Hardcore has been producing for 15 years, maybe more. With that amount of time and dealing with models in sexual production you will have those that feel regret over what they have done for money. It happens in this business, as it would in ANY business. Life if full of regret.

There are those that love to vilify others to justify their own sexual tastes. There are girls that LOVE being fucked hard and rough. Then then are those that don't.


To state that girls in porn movies are RAPED because it might be harder fucking that what you have experienced in your own life or past your tolerance point is idiotic. if you don't want to watch it.... DON'T WATCH IT. It is produced between consenting adults.


ANYTHING physical will have risks (and rewards if done correctly). For those in the fights with Kimbo (your silly analogy that has nothing to do with this), those guys could have been on the opposite end of the stick, and caused harm to Kimbo correct? In your opinion these "delicate flowers" were taken advantage of by mean ol' Max hardcore and used. It's obvious you cannot grasp and accept that there are people in this world with different tastes than yours.


Let ADULTS make their own decisions, unless you enjoy having the government in every facet of your life.

At one time it seemed you were a level-headed person Ray. But throwing out hot button phrases like "abuse" and "rape" (your own opinions), then advocating the FBI (YOUR TAX DOLLARS) to track down people who view something made by consenting adults for consenting adults?

Good work Jackass! :upsidedow

That is fucked up but so are his movies.

yeah hell who knows .. they might drink alcohol and smoke the odd joint ..... you sir are a fucking imbecile ... porn ...twisted fucking creepy nasty shit is what created this here interweb .. media players for video ..and higher and higher bandwidth speeds all needed to view adult content .. with out it we would still be reading naughty stories in dos ... when is the last time you logged on to watch a Coke commercial .. Max creates content that there is a market for .. to a clientele that would rather watch twisted shit than go out and do it .. or lose a marriage over their sick little fantasies ... I have worked with Max ..enjoy his company and albeit he is even more twisted than myself .. He makes 100% all models know what they are in for .. safe words and all .. with out it .. there wouldn't me models lining up to shoot in his productions .. take 5 min away from the keyboard and learn about this industry from both sides of the monitor .....

http://www.maxhardcore.com/ <- owned

dont forget he was charged with child pornography in 1998 as well.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with that so... whatever.

I could care less how old a girl tells me she was when she first had sex. If it bothers you, perhaps you have an issue?

NOTHING to do with anything produced with underage performers. Make sure you understand that.


The laws were so muddied and unclear that a "depiction" might get you in trouble. Even if the performer was 50 years old, having them dressed in cute clothes might get you popped for CP. Fucking INSANE. No pigtails, the word "teen", lollipops, the term "school" in a movie title.


So don't forget the real issue here.

Sorry I have to disagree. If you shoot content for more than 5 mins you have heard the stories. Ive been shooting for 8 yrs.Especially the la horror stories, a girl is new she comes to the shoot. Thinks its one thing and its another. She is told if you don't do this you wont work again. The agent only cares about getting paid,so he tells the girl the I thought you really wanted to be in this business. She doesn't know she can tell them to fuck off she needs money and so it goes.
On front line Lizzie borden said she didnt tell the model it would be so rough but she would take her shopping afterwards to make it up to her. So Ray is not being naive.

Hollywood will probably come out with a movie of Max hardcore:2 cents:

Rape?? LOL are you all that fucking blind??
Ok here is 500 bucks, we are going to make love baby, ... ACTION... Max comes running out with a chainsaw in one hand and his cowboy boots in the other. She just takes it in the ass and gets pissed on not knowing anything LOLOLOL, holy shit no wonder the jury found him guilty, you guys know what he does and they didn't.

Bryan's good people... I've known him for years.








Max sounds like he got what was coming to him...

Right, wrong, consent, no consent, obscene, not obscene, like it, hate it ........

In a court room I sure wouldn't want to try and defend it .....


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lol :1orglaugh

nice work max,

I believe she depicted and said she was 12 in the video, so it's a grey area I guess. But thanks for clearing that up.

Still some of Max's stuff is out there and UP

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If you think this is ok, then YOU have some issues. Come back when you grow up and not live with your mommy anymore. You will look at the world differently.

It's not about regret. When regret's the only issue, I fully agree that the model will just have to deal with it.

It's not about rough or extreme sex either. There are people shooting much more extreme things that I have no problem with at all.

To me, the problem with Max's content isn't the way the scenes look. The problem is that whenever there's a story going around about a model who totally got destroyed in a scene without any idea of what to expect, there's a good chance that it was a Max Hardcore scene. Whenever there's talk of a model considering filing charges against a porn shooter, again, a good chance it was a Max Hardcore scene.

As a producer, you have a moral obligation to deal responsibly with the people working for you. That means prepping the models well, assessing beforehand whether a model is up to the task, and pausing shooting if there's a strong indication that there's a problem.

There are many extreme BDSM producers with excellent reputations when it comes to this, so the problem isn't the nature of the content.

To anyone looking objectively at the matter, it should be obvious that Max does not take proper steps in prepping and guiding his models.

Actually, my analogy has a lot to do with this. It's about not properly informing and preparing actors before the shoot. The fact that an actor is an adult does not absolve the producer from all responsibility for what happens.

As for government interference, I'd much prefer if the industry were to regulate itself better. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

that's fucked

When did Lizzie Borden ever work with Max Hardcore? I'm not super familiar with Porn Valley video, but I thought she ran Extreme Associates with Rob Black.

Also, people are reading what the fines were incorrectly. Max Hardcore the man was fined $7,500 each for 10 counts and his company was fined $75,000 each for 10 counts. That comes to $825,000 not counting attorney bills. XBiz reports the total fines at $1.4 million. AVN reports the recommended range for the fines was between $1.2 and $2.4 million and that the judge went for the lowest possible fines under the statute but also imposed a $5,000 special assessments fine, whatever a special assessment is.

I wasnt talking about max I was talking about common operating practices.