Martha Stewart? MILF? :error

Some people are fuck up individuals.


Speaking the truth.



FREE MAX HARDCORE!

oh really? that's fucked up :Oh crap

I have a feeling the guy had complaints from the models to authorities that we don't know about. One model has already publicly said she filed a police report.

So that's what got the authorities on him. Then they threw him in jail based upon the outright sickness of some of the video's he made. One of the few I watched was very bad.

I'm no fan of Max. I think he's found a way to legally rape women much like prostitution is illegal but if I call up a girl and pay her to star in my movie it isn't considered prostitution.

Yes we sell fantasy but think about his scenes and the wording of the scripts. Incest, rape, violence against the women..

You'd have to be a complete moron to not see what niche he's catering to and he sure does enjoy the work. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck - well, it might be a swan but don't bitch when it gets shot during duck season..

I don't worry about "big brother" raiding my business because I give them no reason to. Max went around quacking and his ass got shot.

Pepsi and Coke are 2 huge dominating company's in the software industry. The could utterly destroy RC Cola but RC has been around since I was a kid and they do it by not pissing off Coke or Pepsi by doing something stupid - well folks, we're RC Cola.

One one side we have the government and on the other the Religious Right and if you don't want your head to be included in one big "whack-a-mole" don't go sticking it out like Max did.

Learn your history. You didn't see this happening during the clinton years. 2257 was changed under W people going to jail. Attorneys fired because they wouldnt go after adult porn cases. This is a republican admin.Are you that stuck in a political ideology that you are blind?
The marketers wanted to be right wing its their choice. You actually produce porn, please wake up.

Do you feel the same way about hardcore BDSM? Prior to getting into this industry and researching the various niche markets, I would never have thought that some people actually want to have nails driven through their nipples, or would want to be suspended from hooks, or want to have their ass beaten with a paddle until it bleeds.... yet there's no shortage of people who PAY to have such things done to them.

I'm not suggesting the performers who work with Max all enjoy the experience -- merely that it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that they are OK with it, at least within the context of the video/scene being produced.

Any model who has performed with Max and feels that she was forced, induced or otherwise coerced to do something they did not want to do has the option of filing criminal charges against the man, or suing him in civil court. That's not what this case was about; this case was about violations of federal obscenity statutes, arguably the vaguest and worst defined statutes this country has to offer.

Connor from YNOT has a great analogy for how obscenity law works: it's like driving along a county road and seeing a sign that says "Speed Limit" but doesn't have any numbers on it. Then you get pulled over by a cop who says "Are you kidding me? Everybody in this town knows you have to stay under 25 on this road.... 30 tops... maybe 35.... well, it kind of depends I guess, but YOU were going 40 -- and we clearly can't have that."

Personally, I think that the most reasonable approach to obscenity law (other than eliminating it) would be to initially prosecute the material, and not the person(s) or company that produced it. Once a jury has deemed a video obscene, you could then make it a crime to sell that video. At least that way we would know whether or not a crime had been committed sometime before a jury comes back with a verdict....

When someone accused of robbing a bank goes on trial, for example, the only real question is "did they do it?" It just doesn't sit well with me to have a "crime" that is wholly dependent on context, and for which there is no objective criteria.

Sounds to me like the court has a lot more inside information then we do.

I hate the content that Max shoots and I'm sure I am not the only one, but if EVERY bit of paper work was in place I think the jail time is a bit over the top. If it pissed off the wrong people I am sure they could have found some girls at some time who are willing to stand against him and have some proof of something.

I must have missed when he posted that, so thanks for reposting it. Great analogy :thumbsup

Maybe not.

If all goes well in November this country might finally enter the 21st century :thumbsup

As vague as the law is if it was very specific 75 percent of the porn we have today wouldnt exist.

Indeed it is, although I'm not sure he has ever posted/published it anywhere; I heard him say it at an Internext seminar in Florida a few years back and thought it was pretty damn spot-on.

Anyone who is for this verdict should be ashamed of themselves.


If you are in the adult business and based out of the Unites States you should be livid and concerned for your future, regardless if you do softcore sites or hardcore. Hell, the surfers on GFY should freak out as well, since YOUR FREEDOMS are being taken away.


This is content produced by consenting adults for consenting adults. It should not be regulated. :2 cents:

:thumbsup:thumbsup Funny a lot of the big people that yell "freedom of speech" and hate George Bush support this ruling.

exactly. Where are they going to draw the line?

This should fucking scare the shit out of anyone who makes a living in this business.

Well put, Q.....
The only bit of good news is that Paul is free on appeal. That's a bit of a surprise, as is the lenient sentencing, considering what the federal guidelines are.

Colin at Wasteland

wow Max is gonna get ripped to shreds in jail (Fed or no fed pen)

Obscenity is based on community standards... BUT maybe its me .. but the person who should be in jail is the actual DISTRIBUTOR of the content that was deemed obscene .. and it should have nothing to do with Max.. unless a legal release of liability was signed between Max and Jaded releasing Jaded of all legal distribution liability .. regarding the actual content .. it used to be common practice to IP block certain states that had laws regarding obscene material .. some states even have issues with interracial ..hell even vibrators are illegal in some states ..
In my opinion .. Jaded should be the one on their way to crowbar hotel .. Max albeit not loved by all and yes a little twisted is someone filling a market that their is a demand for .. meaning the market he is selling to falls within a demographic which via the internet should be considered to fall under a community within it's self ... therefore falling within their own community standards ruling on their on obscene materials .. ..
just my rant .. and oh ya .. fuck AlienQ you sure hate Max huh .. lol take a breath .. i can see the veins pounding in your temples from here....

thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.

Articulating it via wrong facts. Yes thanks for that...

50 sentences..

thanks for articulating what most reasonable people understand.

I hope time passes easily for Max.

If he decides to stay in the industry when he gets out, I hope he doesn't repeat his past mistakes.

He really is a talented guy underneath all that rough reputation.

his domains have been "forfeited"

...the end of max hardcore career?

i dono... but

wish him all the best though

we all deserve 2nd chances

met the guy once... lil on the weird side but wtf isnt this days and whos to judge?



doubt he will get out sooner then 4 yrs or be back in the biz

time to retire :(

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why do you vote on neo cons again? :uhoh

Well, Sticky sees this case without partisanship. I think it is very mature of him, and if more people could see issue per issue, the usa would be much better off...

I think sticky is brainwashed.

Im a very liberal conservative hehe. There are a lot of us. We aren't independent, and we aren't libertarian. We are different.

If brainwashing worked on me I would hate porn, weed, and prostitution. I love them hehe.

Where? Source? Link?

interesting

Will he serve his time in the state of Florida or in the state of California?....(since he is a California resident.) I guess he will serve his time in Florida since that was where the trial took place.

Mr. Max Hardcore meet Bubba.

Personally I don't like this type of movies but this is some serious shit.

Again a new frontier defined by US justice / gov.

I wish him all the best.

someday, i will convince you to become an independent... you are about 20% there...

Honestly, if I was Max I would have moved to someplace in Europe a long time ago, given up my American citizenship and worked the way I wanted to. I mean, if he was THAT hell bent on shooting THAT type of content, he knew better than to do it from the former USA.

He wanted to buck the system and now the system bucked back.

So if you AGREE to be killed, I pay you for it and then kill you, its all good? Just because you agreed?

You need a brain to get brainwashed.

That's extreme.

I'm pretty sure all of Max's girls knew what they were getting into before they came to shoot and were paid well for it. If not and he just surprised them with all of that shit, then hang his hillbilly ass, but I don't think it went down that way.

If a girl has to say she had her first sex at the age of 3, doesn't matter if she agreed or not.